Monthly meeting December 2012 rescheduled

[Aleksey Bragin]

Hello!

Due to Christmas and New Year holidays this month's status meeting makes 
little sense. Preliminary it's rescheduled to January, exact dates will 
be proposed after speaking to our team members.

Thank you all for your work in 2012, and bright future awaits us in 
2013, I'm sure.

Best regards,
Aleksey Bragin

[Bernd Blaauw]

Op 27-12-2012 20:13, Aleksey Bragin schreef:
> Due to Christmas and New Year holidays this month's status meeting makes
> little sense. Preliminary it's rescheduled to January, exact dates will
> be proposed after speaking to our team members.

I'm not sure if suggestions for topics/subjects are welcome but I'd like 
to see a single ISO always containing both the LiveCD and BootCD
(for each revision). Gets rid of the failing AUTORUN on LiveCD pointing 
to a missing \reactos\welcome.exe at least (and might encourage further 
work on a GUI installer).

And as you got your own servers anyway, maybe some "boot.reactos.org" 
where iPXE can connect to (the ISO file) with its 'sanhook' command.
> Thank you all for your work in 2012, and bright future awaits us in
> 2013, I'm sure.

Happy new year and best of luck improving ReactOS. May you be able to 
present 0.4.0 this year :)

Bernd

[Hermès BÉLUSCA - MAÏTO]

Hi !
> And as you got your own servers anyway, maybe some "boot.reactos.org" 
> where iPXE can connect to (the ISO file) with its 'sanhook' command.

Hey ! That's great idea :))
But first of all we have to be sure that PXE is really implemented (I think
something exists in freeldr) and if so, works correctly. Maybe some work in
the kernel is also required (for that last point, it's the same for our
RAMDISK support).

Hermès BÉLUSCA - MAÏTO

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Op 27-12-2012 20:13, Aleksey Bragin schreef:
> Due to Christmas and New Year holidays this month's status meeting 
> makes little sense. Preliminary it's rescheduled to January, exact 
> dates will be proposed after speaking to our team members.

I'm not sure if suggestions for topics/subjects are welcome but I'd like to
see a single ISO always containing both the LiveCD and BootCD (for each
revision). Gets rid of the failing AUTORUN on LiveCD pointing to a missing
\reactos\welcome.exe at least (and might encourage further work on a GUI
installer).

And as you got your own servers anyway, maybe some "boot.reactos.org" 
where iPXE can connect to (the ISO file) with its 'sanhook' command.
> Thank you all for your work in 2012, and bright future awaits us in 
> 2013, I'm sure.

Happy new year and best of luck improving ReactOS. May you be able to
present 0.4.0 this year :)

Bernd

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[Pierre Schweitzer]

Hi,

AFAIK, PXE has been already worked by Hervé Poussineau, at least, in FreeLDR to try to provide such feature. But ReactOS was then unable to work on PXE, producing a BSOD. The code path needed wasn't implemented in the kernel.

And unless I'm totally wrong, I improved some code close to the PXE support in the kernel, but never check its implementation nor implemented it if required.
Was a long time ago.

With my best regards,
On Jan 2, 2013, at 10:13 PM, Bernd Blaauw wrote:
> Op 27-12-2012 20:13, Aleksey Bragin schreef:
> > Due to Christmas and New Year holidays this month's status meeting makes
> > little sense. Preliminary it's rescheduled to January, exact dates will
> > be proposed after speaking to our team members.
>
> I'm not sure if suggestions for topics/subjects are welcome but I'd like to see a single ISO always containing both the LiveCD and BootCD
> (for each revision). Gets rid of the failing AUTORUN on LiveCD pointing to a missing \reactos\welcome.exe at least (and might encourage further work on a GUI installer).
>
> And as you got your own servers anyway, maybe some "boot.reactos.org" where iPXE can connect to (the ISO file) with its 'sanhook' command.
> > Thank you all for your work in 2012, and bright future awaits us in
> > 2013, I'm sure.
>
> Happy new year and best of luck improving ReactOS. May you be able to present 0.4.0 this year :)
>
> Bernd
>
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> [e-mail]
> http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev

[Bernd Blaauw]

Op 3-1-2013 9:01, Pierre Schweitzer schreef:
> AFAIK, PXE has been already worked by Hervé Poussineau, at least, in FreeLDR to try to provide such feature. But ReactOS was then unable to work on PXE, producing a BSOD. The code path needed wasn't implemented in the kernel.
>
> And unless I'm totally wrong, I improved some code close to the PXE support in the kernel, but never check its implementation nor implemented it if required.
> Was a long time ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm9VIawx__Y  shows ReactOS installed 
inside a ramdisk-loaded (by Syslinux) harddisk image.
The tricky bit is lack of documentation of how to do this (QEMU likely) 
and it's unknown if it's native code or some memory-driver like 
WinVBlock was added.

Relying on an optical drive connected to IDE controller as the sole 
method for installing your OS is becoming a liability.

Bernd

[Hermès BÉLUSCA - MAÏTO]

Great! Now our own bootloader (FreeLoader) must be adapted to boot-up PXE
images (instead of using PXELINUX).

Hermès

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Op 3-1-2013 9:01, Pierre Schweitzer schreef:
> AFAIK, PXE has been already worked by Hervé Poussineau, at least, in

FreeLDR to try to provide such feature. But ReactOS was then unable to work
on PXE, producing a BSOD. The code path needed wasn't implemented in the
kernel.
> And unless I'm totally wrong, I improved some code close to the PXE

support in the kernel, but never check its implementation nor implemented it
if required.
> Was a long time ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm9VIawx__Y  shows ReactOS installed inside
a ramdisk-loaded (by Syslinux) harddisk image.
The tricky bit is lack of documentation of how to do this (QEMU likely) and
it's unknown if it's native code or some memory-driver like WinVBlock was
added.

Relying on an optical drive connected to IDE controller as the sole method
for installing your OS is becoming a liability.

Bernd

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[Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo]

just one note... which image would be the "eligible" to be the "loader"?
HEAD (which is constantly changing) or maybe latest public published
release (which, as of now, is 0.3.14, too old for testing)?

On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Hermès BÉLUSCA - MAÏTO <
[e-mail]> wrote:
> Great! Now our own bootloader (FreeLoader) must be adapted to boot-up PXE
> images (instead of using PXELINUX).
>
> Hermès
>
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> la
> part de Bernd Blaauw
> Envoyé : jeudi 3 janvier 2013 19:01
> À : ReactOS Development List
> Objet : Re: [ros-dev] Monthly meeting December 2012 rescheduled
>
> Op 3-1-2013 9:01, Pierre Schweitzer schreef:
> > AFAIK, PXE has been already worked by Hervé Poussineau, at least, in
>
> FreeLDR to try to provide such feature. But ReactOS was then unable to work
> on PXE, producing a BSOD. The code path needed wasn't implemented in the
> kernel.
> > And unless I'm totally wrong, I improved some code close to the PXE
>
> support in the kernel, but never check its implementation nor implemented
> it
> if required.
> > Was a long time ago.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm9VIawx__Y  shows ReactOS installed
> inside
> a ramdisk-loaded (by Syslinux) harddisk image.
> The tricky bit is lack of documentation of how to do this (QEMU likely) and
> it's unknown if it's native code or some memory-driver like WinVBlock was
> added.
>
> Relying on an optical drive connected to IDE controller as the sole method
> for installing your OS is becoming a liability.
>
> Bernd
>
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>
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[Bernd Blaauw]

Op 4-1-2013 13:10, Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo schreef:
> just one note... which image would be the "eligible" to be the "loader"?
> HEAD (which is constantly changing) or maybe latest public published
> release (which, as of now, is 0.3.14, too old for testing)?

HEAD if the build managed to complete at iso.reactos.org ?

btw, 
http://www.reactos.org/archives/public/ros-diffs/2012-January/044506.html :)

(rev 58113 suffers from 2012-End-of-the-World-syndrome still in 2013).

[Bernd Blaauw]

Op 4-1-2013 11:10, Hermès BÉLUSCA - MAÏTO schreef:
> Great! Now our own bootloader (FreeLoader) must be adapted to boot-up PXE
> images (instead of using PXELINUX).

My syslinux.cfg has the following, which might be entirely depending on 
int13 making it useless for protected mode OS like ReactOS :

linux /ipxe.krn
append dhcp && sanboot --drive 0xF0 
http://boot.ipxe.org/freedos/fdfullcd.iso

( https://gist.github.com/2234639 seems quite extensive as manual)

Anyway, goodluck with the meeting