Role of UI coordinator and committing graphical improvements

[Murphy, Ged (Bolton)]

How does this work?
 I can't find anything in the wiki about this and it seems a bit of a grey
area.

There has been quite a bit of discussion about the UI recently, and I've had
a few people asking me how they can get involved, as they are finding it
difficult to get their ideas accepted.
Two good designs that spring to mind are that of crappish and Dominic.

Due to the recent interest in the GUI, I would be relatively interested in
getting some of their ideas into ReactOS.
I know Alex has some thoughts on improvements for 0.3 also

For instance, I think the button icon and menu graphic Dominic did are much
fresher and easier on the eye (see attached  ... the graphic text needs
tweaking). However I don't know whether I can just commit, whether there is
a vote, whether MindFlyer can overrule us, etc.
 <<start.jpg>> 
Can we set some rules down so no toes are stepped on.

Thanks,
Ged.






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[Alex Ionescu]

Murphy, Ged (Bolton) wrote:

>   How does this work?
>   I can't find anything in the wiki about this and it seems a bit of a 
>  grey area.
>
>  There has been quite a bit of discussion about the UI recently, and 
>  I've had a few people asking me how they can get involved, as they are 
>  finding it difficult to get their ideas accepted.
>
>  Two good designs that spring to mind are that of crappish and Dominic.
>
>  Due to the recent interest in the GUI, I would be relatively 
>  interested in getting some of their ideas into ReactOS.
>  I know Alex has some thoughts on improvements for 0.3 also
>
>  For instance, I think the button icon and menu graphic Dominic did are 
>  much fresher and easier on the eye (see attached  ... the graphic text 
>  needs tweaking). However I don't know whether I can just commit, 
>  whether there is a vote, whether MindFlyer can overrule us, etc.
>
>  <<start.jpg>>
>  Can we set some rules down so no toes are stepped on.
>
>  Thanks,
>  Ged.
>
>  
Wow, Dominic's design is just amazing. Is that a real local copy or a 
mockup? I'm all for it, the icons and all are great!

Best regards,
Alex Ionescu

[Dominik Ottenbreit]

Alex Ionescu schrieb:

>   Murphy, Ged (Bolton) wrote:
>
> >   How does this work?
> >   I can't find anything in the wiki about this and it seems a bit of a 
> >  grey area.
> >
> >  There has been quite a bit of discussion about the UI recently, and 
> >  I've had a few people asking me how they can get involved, as they 
> >  are finding it difficult to get their ideas accepted.
> >
> >  Two good designs that spring to mind are that of crappish and Dominic.
> >
> >  Due to the recent interest in the GUI, I would be relatively 
> >  interested in getting some of their ideas into ReactOS.
> >  I know Alex has some thoughts on improvements for 0.3 also
> >
> >  For instance, I think the button icon and menu graphic Dominic did 
> >  are much fresher and easier on the eye (see attached  ... the graphic 
> >  text needs tweaking). However I don't know whether I can just commit, 
> >  whether there is a vote, whether MindFlyer can overrule us, etc.
> >
> >  <<start.jpg>>
> >  Can we set some rules down so no toes are stepped on.
> >
> >  Thanks,
> >  Ged.
> >
> >  
>  Wow, Dominic's design is just amazing. Is that a real local copy or a 
>  mockup? I'm all for it, the icons and all are great!
>
>  Best regards,
>  Alex Ionescu
>
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>  
Something I forgot, this is just a mockup not a local copy.

Dominik

[Casper Hornstrup]

Nice.

I have a few comments. The product name is ReactOS. Not Reactos. Not ROS.
Why do we need both "Turn Off..." and "Terminate ROS Explorer"? Does
"Terminate ROS Explorer" go to the console? If so, then why not call it
"Go to console" instead? Yes, I don't run ReactOS much - shame on me ;-)
... are usually used when there isn't enough space left to write what you
want to write. There is lots of space here to write "Log Off User" and
"Turn Off Computer".

Casper

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From: ros-dev-bounces(a)reactos.org [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of
Murphy, Ged (Bolton)
Sent: 27. oktober 2005 13:02
To: 'ReactOS Development List'
Subject: [ros-dev] Role of UI coordinator and committing graphicalimprovements

How does this work? 
 I can't find anything in the wiki about this and it seems a bit of a grey area. 
There has been quite a bit of discussion about the UI recently, and I've had a few
people asking me how they can get involved, as
they are finding it difficult to get their ideas accepted.
Two good designs that spring to mind are that of crappish and Dominic. 
Due to the recent interest in the GUI, I would be relatively interested in getting some of
their ideas into ReactOS. 
I know Alex has some thoughts on improvements for 0.3 also 
For instance, I think the button icon and menu graphic Dominic did are much fresher and
easier on the eye (see attached  ... the
graphic text needs tweaking). However I don't know whether I can just commit, whether
there is a vote, whether MindFlyer can
overrule us, etc.
<<start.jpg>> 
Can we set some rules down so no toes are stepped on. 
Thanks, 
Ged.

[Maarten Bosma]

"Turn Off..." calls ExitWindowsDialog in Shell32, but because it is not 
implemented yet in ReactOS nothing will happen. 

"Terminate ROS Explorer" does what the name suggests: explorer gets 
terminated. Under windows that means that you can start windows explorer 
under ros it means that it shuts down.

Maarten Bosma


Casper Hornstrup wrote:

>  Why do we need both "Turn Off..." and
> "Terminate ROS Explorer"? Does
> "Terminate ROS Explorer" go to the console? If so, then why not call it
> "Go to console" instead? Yes, I don't run ReactOS much - shame on me ;-)
> ... are usually used when there isn't enough space left to write what you
> want to write. There is lots of space here to write "Log Off User" and
> "Turn Off Computer".
>

[Casper Hornstrup]

Ok. So "Terminate ROS Explorer" is useless under ReactOS and should be removed.

Casper

>   -----Original Message-----
>  From: ros-dev-bounces(a)reactos.org [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of
> Maarten Bosma
>  Sent: 27. oktober 2005 22:32
>  To: ReactOS Development List
>  Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Role of UI coordinator and committing graphicalimprovements
>  
>  "Turn Off..." calls ExitWindowsDialog in Shell32, but because it is not
>  implemented yet in ReactOS nothing will happen.
>  
>  "Terminate ROS Explorer" does what the name suggests: explorer gets
>  terminated. Under windows that means that you can start windows explorer
>  under ros it means that it shuts down.
>  
>  Maarten Bosma
>  
>  
>  Casper Hornstrup wrote:
>  
> >  Why do we need both "Turn Off..." and
> > "Terminate ROS Explorer"? Does
> > "Terminate ROS Explorer" go to the console? If so, then why not call it
> > "Go to console" instead? Yes, I don't run ReactOS much - shame on me ;-)
> > ... are usually used when there isn't enough space left to write what you
> > want to write. There is lots of space here to write "Log Off User" and
> > "Turn Off Computer".
> >  
>  
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[Martin Fuchs]

Hi,

[Casper Hornstrup]
>   Ok. So "Terminate ROS Explorer" is useless
> under ReactOS and should be
>  removed. 
[David Hinz]
>   As far as I know, ROS Explorer is developed under
> Windows and also tested
>  there, so this option makes sense.
>  Maybe it should stay in svn, but there should be a possibility to deactivate
>  this for the releases. 
I deactivated this menu item for ReactOS builds. It is still available
for Windows builds.

Regards,

    Martin

Hmm, it was very useful when starting to cmd and start explorer then, I
could go to cmd again this way...

>   Hi,
>
>  [Casper Hornstrup]
> >   Ok. So "Terminate ROS Explorer" is
> > useless under ReactOS and should be
> >  removed. 
>  [David Hinz]
> >   As far as I know, ROS Explorer is developed under
> > Windows and also
> >  tested
> >  there, so this option makes sense.
> >  Maybe it should stay in svn, but there should be a possibility to
> >  deactivate
> >  this for the releases. 
>  I deactivated this menu item for ReactOS builds. It is still available
>  for Windows builds.
>
>  Regards,
>
>      Martin
>
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[Casper Hornstrup]

That's under Windows, not under ReactOS.

 

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From: ros-dev-bounces(a)reactos.org [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of David
Hinz
Sent: 27. oktober 2005 23:25
To: ReactOS Development List
Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Role of UI coordinator andcommitting graphicalimprovements

 

Casper Hornstrup schrieb: 

Ok. So "Terminate ROS Explorer" is useless under ReactOS and should be removed.
 
Casper
 
  

-----Original Message-----
From: ros-dev-bounces(a)reactos.org [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of
Maarten Bosma
Sent: 27. oktober 2005 22:32
To: ReactOS Development List
Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Role of UI coordinator and committing graphicalimprovements
 
"Turn Off..." calls ExitWindowsDialog in Shell32, but because it is not
implemented yet in ReactOS nothing will happen.
 
"Terminate ROS Explorer" does what the name suggests: explorer gets
terminated. Under windows that means that you can start windows explorer
under ros it means that it shuts down.
 
Maarten Bosma
 
 
Casper Hornstrup wrote:
 
    

Why do we need both "Turn Off..." and "Terminate ROS Explorer"? Does
"Terminate ROS Explorer" go to the console? If so, then why not call it
"Go to console" instead? Yes, I don't run ReactOS much - shame on me ;-)
... are usually used when there isn't enough space left to write what you
want to write. There is lots of space here to write "Log Off User" and
"Turn Off Computer".
 
      

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Personlly I don't think so.

As far as I know, ROS Explorer is developed under Windows and also tested there, so this
option makes sense.
Maybe it should stay in svn, but there should be a possibility to deactivate this for the
releases.

Greets,

David Hinz

[Derek Hinchliffe]

Casper Hornstrup wrote:
<snip>
>   ... are usually used when there isn't enough space
> left to write what you
>  want to write. There is lots of space here to write "Log Off User" and
>  "Turn Off Computer". 
Elipses (...) are also used in menu items when clicking on the item will
result in some sort of dialog box before any real action is actually
taken.

So if clicking the 'Turn Off Computer' were to result in a prompt giving
(for example) the option of Turning Off or Cancelling, then it should be
written 'Turn Off Computer...'.  But if clicking it immediately initiates
the shutdown process then it should have no '...'.  The dots just gives
the user a subtle hint that there will be more required to perform the
action after clicking the item.

Cheers
Derek

[Casper Hornstrup]

Which OS does this? Windows has it for Run..., but not for Shut Down.
But Run can do many things. Run a program, open a document, open an URL.
It's kind of hard to make space for it all.

>   -----Original Message-----
>  From: ros-dev-bounces(a)reactos.org [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of
> Derek
>  Hinchliffe
>  Sent: 28. oktober 2005 08:32
>  To: ReactOS Development List
>  Subject: RE: [ros-dev] Role of UI coordinator and committing
>  
>  
>  Casper Hornstrup wrote:
>  <snip>
> >   ... are usually used when there isn't enough
> > space left to write what you
> >  want to write. There is lots of space here to write "Log Off User" and
> >  "Turn Off Computer". 
>  
>  Elipses (...) are also used in menu items when clicking on the item will
>  result in some sort of dialog box before any real action is actually
>  taken.
>  
>  So if clicking the 'Turn Off Computer' were to result in a prompt giving
>  (for example) the option of Turning Off or Cancelling, then it should be
>  written 'Turn Off Computer...'.  But if clicking it immediately initiates
>  the shutdown process then it should have no '...'.  The dots just gives
>  the user a subtle hint that there will be more required to perform the
>  action after clicking the item.
>  
>  Cheers
>  Derek
>  
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>  Ros-dev(a)reactos.org
>  http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev

[Ge van Geldorp]

>   From: Casper Hornstrup
>
> >   From: Derek Hinchliffe
> >  
> >  Elipses (...) are also used in menu items when clicking on the item 
> >  will result in some sort of dialog box before any real action is 
> >  actually taken. 
>  
>  Which OS does this? Windows has it for Run..., but not for Shut Down.
>  But Run can do many things. Run a program, open a document, 
>  open an URL.
>  It's kind of hard to make space for it all. 
Check for example Microsoft Word. "Edit/Paste" doesn't have elipses
'cause
the command is just carried out. "Edit/Past Special..." does have them, you
will get a modal dialog box before the command is carried out. I think it's
part of the CUA, on which the original UI guidelines for Windows were based.
See e.g.
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISJ/is_n3_v31/ai_12547724/pg_6:

"Action option windows contain options that allow a user to further specify
an action request. They appear when a user selects an action choice, such as
"Print...", from a menu. Menu choices that cause action windows to be
displayed are called action choices and are followed by ellipses. This
provides a visual cue for users, indicating that no action will occur until
further dialog is completed."

GvG

[Casper Hornstrup]

Ah ok. So it being missing on Shut Down is an UI bug ;-)

It should still be a complete sentence IMHO (I.e. Turn Off Computer... vs. Turn Off...).

>   -----Original Message-----
>  From: ros-dev-bounces(a)reactos.org [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Ge
> van Geldorp
>  Sent: 28. oktober 2005 09:16
>  To: 'ReactOS Development List'
>  Subject: RE: [ros-dev] Role of UI coordinator and committing
>  
> >   From: Casper Hornstrup
> >
> > >   From: Derek Hinchliffe
> > >
> > >  Elipses (...) are also used in menu items when clicking on the item
> > >  will result in some sort of dialog box before any real action is
> > >  actually taken. 
> >  Which OS does this? Windows has it for Run..., but not for Shut Down.
> >  But Run can do many things. Run a program, open a document,
> >  open an URL.
> >  It's kind of hard to make space for it all. 
>  
>  Check for example Microsoft Word. "Edit/Paste" doesn't have elipses
> 'cause
>  the command is just carried out. "Edit/Past Special..." does have them, you
>  will get a modal dialog box before the command is carried out. I think it's
>  part of the CUA, on which the original UI guidelines for Windows were based.
>  See e.g.
>  http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISJ/is_n3_v31/ai_12547724/pg_6:
>  
>  "Action option windows contain options that allow a user to further specify
>  an action request. They appear when a user selects an action choice, such as
>  "Print...", from a menu. Menu choices that cause action windows to be
>  displayed are called action choices and are followed by ellipses. This
>  provides a visual cue for users, indicating that no action will occur until
>  further dialog is completed."
>  
>  GvG
>  
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[Dominik Ottenbreit]

Yes I think there should be complete sentences like "Turn Off Computer"
Dominik

>  Ah ok. So it being missing on Shut Down is an UI bug
> ;-)
>
> It should still be a complete sentence IMHO (I.e. Turn Off Computer... vs. Turn Off...).
>
>   
>
> >  -----Original Message-----
> > From: ros-dev-bounces(a)reactos.org [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Ge van
> > Geldorp
> > Sent: 28. oktober 2005 09:16
> > To: 'ReactOS Development List'
> > Subject: RE: [ros-dev] Role of UI coordinator and committing
> >
> >     
> >
> > >  From: Casper Hornstrup
> > >
> > >       
> > >
> > > >  From: Derek Hinchliffe
> > > >
> > > > Elipses (...) are also used in menu items when clicking on the item
> > > > will result in some sort of dialog box before any real action is
> > > > actually taken.
> > > >         
> > > >  
> > > Which OS does this? Windows has it for Run..., but not for Shut Down.
> > > But Run can do many things. Run a program, open a document,
> > > open an URL.
> > > It's kind of hard to make space for it all.
> > >       
> > >  
> > Check for example Microsoft Word. "Edit/Paste" doesn't have elipses
> > 'cause
> > the command is just carried out. "Edit/Past Special..." does have them, you
> > will get a modal dialog box before the command is carried out. I think it's
> > part of the CUA, on which the original UI guidelines for Windows were based.
> > See e.g.
> > http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISJ/is_n3_v31/ai_12547724/pg_6:
> >
> > "Action option windows contain options that allow a user to further specify
> > an action request. They appear when a user selects an action choice, such as
> > "Print...", from a menu. Menu choices that cause action windows to be
> > displayed are called action choices and are followed by ellipses. This
> > provides a visual cue for users, indicating that no action will occur until
> > further dialog is completed."
> >
> > GvG
> >
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[Derek Hinchliffe]

You'll find that the 'classic' windows start menu follows the convention.
The newer XP one ignores it for the Log Off and Shut Down for what I can
only assume is eye candy purposes.

Anyway, afaik it is more of a general UI convention rather than a specific
thing Windows does. I'm not sure where the practice originated but it is
now used across many OSs and applications, including Windows, MacOS and a
lot of Unix GUIs.

As a random example, the attached image is the Firefox 'File' menu which I
just happened to be using at the moment.  Some of the menu items have ...
and some don't, and you will notice the difference is the ones that do
have it will result in dialog boxes coming up for further actions (eg.
Save Page As...), while the ones without are immediate actions (eg. New
Tab).

The same convention is used in the following apps I just sampled: iTunes
on Mac, Gimp on Linux, Word on Windows.

Cheers
Derek

>   Which OS does this? Windows has it for Run..., but not
> for Shut Down.
>  But Run can do many things. Run a program, open a document, open an URL.
>  It's kind of hard to make space for it all.
>
> >   -----Original Message-----
> >  From: ros-dev-bounces(a)reactos.org [mailto:[e-mail]]
> >  On Behalf Of Derek
> >  Hinchliffe
> >  Sent: 28. oktober 2005 08:32
> >  To: ReactOS Development List
> >  Subject: RE: [ros-dev] Role of UI coordinator and committing
> >
> >
> >  Casper Hornstrup wrote:
> >  <snip>
> > >   ... are usually used when there isn't enough
> > > space left to write what 
> >  you
> > >   want to write. There is lots of space here to
> > > write "Log Off User" and
> > >  "Turn Off Computer". 
> >  Elipses (...) are also used in menu items when clicking on the item will
> >  result in some sort of dialog box before any real action is actually
> >  taken.
> >
> >  So if clicking the 'Turn Off Computer' were to result in a prompt giving
> >  (for example) the option of Turning Off or Cancelling, then it should be
> >  written 'Turn Off Computer...'.  But if clicking it immediately
> >  initiates
> >  the shutdown process then it should have no '...'.  The dots just gives
> >  the user a subtle hint that there will be more required to perform the
> >  action after clicking the item.
> >
> >  Cheers
> >  Derek
> >
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[Rick Langschultz]

I like the one on the left hand side. The icons and the overall  
design are sleeker and appear to be developed pretty well. However, I  
was wondering if the UI coordinator could add a themed look to the  
start menu. I would love to see a Windows XP-style menu because I  
like the frequently used program list and the pin to menu feature. I  
would also like to see transparency and theming in general (either by  
a theme file, or xml based theming). I know these are far off but it  
would be nice to see.
On Oct 27, 2005, at 6:02 AM, Murphy, Ged (Bolton) wrote:

>   How does this work?
>   I can't find anything in the wiki about this and it seems a bit of  
>  a grey area.
>
>  There has been quite a bit of discussion about the UI recently, and  
>  I've had a few people asking me how they can get involved, as they  
>  are finding it difficult to get their ideas accepted.
>
>  Two good designs that spring to mind are that of crappish and Dominic.
>
>  Due to the recent interest in the GUI, I would be relatively  
>  interested in getting some of their ideas into ReactOS.
>  I know Alex has some thoughts on improvements for 0.3 also
>
>  For instance, I think the button icon and menu graphic Dominic did  
>  are much fresher and easier on the eye (see attached  ... the  
>  graphic text needs tweaking). However I don't know whether I can  
>  just commit, whether there is a vote, whether MindFlyer can  
>  overrule us, etc.
>
>  <<start.jpg>>
>  Can we set some rules down so no toes are stepped on.
>
>  Thanks,
>  Ged.
>
>
>
>
>
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[Dominik Ottenbreit]

I added a list of common misspellings to the wiki page 
http://www.reactos.org/wiki/index.php/ReactOS:List_of_common_misspellings
so the page 
http://www.reactos.org/wiki/index.php?title=Special:Maintenance&subfunc…

<http://www.reactos.org/wiki/index.php?title=Special:Maintenance&subfunction=mispeelings&limit=200>

shows some misspellings in our wiki.

As you can see there are some articles to edit, but warning not 
everything the misspelling-page finds is written wrong.
Make shure you are right before you change something.

Dominik

[K McI]

Dominik Ottenbreit wrote:
>   I added a list of common misspellings to the wiki page
>  
Where'd that come from? I'm guessing we don't spell "Yemeni" too
often, 
right or wrong...

          -uQ

[Dominik Ottenbreit]

Well that's right, please feel free to delete nonsense words.

>   Dominik Ottenbreit wrote:
>
> >   I added a list of common misspellings to the wiki
> > page  
>
>  Where'd that come from? I'm guessing we don't spell "Yemeni" too 
>  often, right or wrong...
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[Magnus Olsen]

Role of UI coordinator and committing graphical improvementsReactOS is not in beta we are
in alpha

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Murphy, Ged (Bolton) 
  To: 'ReactOS Development List' 
  Sent: den 27 October 2005 13:02
  Subject: [ros-dev] Role of UI coordinator and committing graphicalimprovements


  How does this work? 
   I can't find anything in the wiki about this and it seems a bit of a grey area. 

  There has been quite a bit of discussion about the UI recently, and I've had a few
people asking me how they can get involved, as they are finding it difficult to get their
ideas accepted.

  Two good designs that spring to mind are that of crappish and Dominic. 

  Due to the recent interest in the GUI, I would be relatively interested in getting some
of their ideas into ReactOS. 
  I know Alex has some thoughts on improvements for 0.3 also 

  For instance, I think the button icon and menu graphic Dominic did are much fresher and
easier on the eye (see attached  ... the graphic text needs tweaking). However I don't
know whether I can just commit, whether there is a vote, whether MindFlyer can overrule
us, etc.

  <<start.jpg>> 
  Can we set some rules down so no toes are stepped on. 

  Thanks, 
  Ged. 







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[Ged]

Magnus Olsen wrote:
>   ReactOS is not in beta we are in alpha 
I never said it was. I don't understand your email.

Ged.


>       ----- Original Message -----
>      *From:* Murphy, Ged (Bolton) <mailto:[e-mail]>
>      *To:* 'ReactOS Development List' <mailto:[e-mail]>
>      *Sent:* den 27 October 2005 13:02
>      *Subject:* [ros-dev] Role of UI coordinator and committing
>      graphicalimprovements
>
>      How does this work?
>       I can't find anything in the wiki about this and it seems a bit
>      of a grey area.
>
>      There has been quite a bit of discussion about the UI recently,
>      and I've had a few people asking me how they can get involved, as
>      they are finding it difficult to get their ideas accepted.
>
>      Two good designs that spring to mind are that of crappish and
>      Dominic.
>
>      Due to the recent interest in the GUI, I would be relatively
>      interested in getting some of their ideas into ReactOS.
>      I know Alex has some thoughts on improvements for 0.3 also
>
>      For instance, I think the button icon and menu graphic Dominic did
>      are much fresher and easier on the eye (see attached  ... the
>      graphic text needs tweaking). However I don't know whether I can
>      just commit, whether there is a vote, whether MindFlyer can
>      overrule us, etc.
>
>      <<start.jpg>>
>      Can we set some rules down so no toes are stepped on.
>
>      Thanks,
>      Ged.
>

[Magnus Olsen]

I did look at the pic start.jpg it say ros is beta
but ros is alpha

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ged" <gedmurphy(a)gmail.com>
To: "ReactOS Development List" <ros-dev(a)reactos.org>
Sent: den 29 October 2005 00:02
Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Role of UI coordinator andcommitting
graphicalimprovements


>   Magnus Olsen wrote:
> >   ReactOS is not in beta we are in alpha 
>  I never said it was. I don't understand your email.
>
>  Ged.
>
>
> >       ----- Original Message -----
> >      *From:* Murphy, Ged (Bolton) <mailto:[e-mail]>
> >      *To:* 'ReactOS Development List' <mailto:[e-mail]>
> >      *Sent:* den 27 October 2005 13:02
> >      *Subject:* [ros-dev] Role of UI coordinator and committing
> >      graphicalimprovements
> >
> >      How does this work?
> >       I can't find anything in the wiki about this and it seems a bit
> >      of a grey area.
> >
> >      There has been quite a bit of discussion about the UI recently,
> >      and I've had a few people asking me how they can get involved, as
> >      they are finding it difficult to get their ideas accepted.
> >
> >      Two good designs that spring to mind are that of crappish and
> >      Dominic.
> >
> >      Due to the recent interest in the GUI, I would be relatively
> >      interested in getting some of their ideas into ReactOS.
> >      I know Alex has some thoughts on improvements for 0.3 also
> >
> >      For instance, I think the button icon and menu graphic Dominic did
> >      are much fresher and easier on the eye (see attached  ... the
> >      graphic text needs tweaking). However I don't know whether I can
> >      just commit, whether there is a vote, whether MindFlyer can
> >      overrule us, etc.
> >
> >      <<start.jpg>>
> >      Can we set some rules down so no toes are stepped on.
> >
> >      Thanks,
> >      Ged.
> >  
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[Dominik Ottenbreit]

Yes I know ROS is alpha, small mistake.

>  I did look at the pic start.jpg it say ros is beta
> but ros is alpha
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ged" <gedmurphy(a)gmail.com>
> To: "ReactOS Development List" <ros-dev(a)reactos.org>
> Sent: den 29 October 2005 00:02
> Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Role of UI coordinator andcommitting
> graphicalimprovements
>
>
>   
>
> >  Magnus Olsen wrote:
> >     
> >
> > >  ReactOS is not in beta we are in alpha
> > >       
> > >  
> > I never said it was. I don't understand your email.
> >
> > Ged.
> >
> >
> >     
> >
> > >      ----- Original Message -----
> > >     *From:* Murphy, Ged (Bolton) <mailto:[e-mail]>
> > >     *To:* 'ReactOS Development List' <mailto:[e-mail]>
> > >     *Sent:* den 27 October 2005 13:02
> > >     *Subject:* [ros-dev] Role of UI coordinator and committing
> > >     graphicalimprovements
> > >
> > >     How does this work?
> > >      I can't find anything in the wiki about this and it seems a bit
> > >     of a grey area.
> > >
> > >     There has been quite a bit of discussion about the UI recently,
> > >     and I've had a few people asking me how they can get involved, as
> > >     they are finding it difficult to get their ideas accepted.
> > >
> > >     Two good designs that spring to mind are that of crappish and
> > >     Dominic.
> > >
> > >     Due to the recent interest in the GUI, I would be relatively
> > >     interested in getting some of their ideas into ReactOS.
> > >     I know Alex has some thoughts on improvements for 0.3 also
> > >
> > >     For instance, I think the button icon and menu graphic Dominic did
> > >     are much fresher and easier on the eye (see attached  ... the
> > >     graphic text needs tweaking). However I don't know whether I can
> > >     just commit, whether there is a vote, whether MindFlyer can
> > >     overrule us, etc.
> > >
> > >     <<start.jpg>>
> > >     Can we set some rules down so no toes are stepped on.
> > >
> > >     Thanks,
> > >     Ged.
> > >
> > >       
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