nitro2k01 wrote:
I haven't seen the patant documents, but doesn't this mean that any file system which stores both long and short file names on the same volume would be theoreticlly affected?
No. Long files names were incorporated into unix systems long before the days FAT, or even DOS. This patent (if correct) is linked to FAT only.
If is true, it would effect many things, but I can't see Microsoft enforcing it, it would alienate themselves.
Just the fact that it is there is a problem for ReactOS though, even if they don't do anything about it.
I haven't been able to find a copy of the patent yet. AFAIK, it was only released today.
Ged.
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No. Long files names were incorporated into unix systems long before the days FAT, or even DOS. This patent (if correct) is linked to FAT only.
Yes of course, but isn't FAT pretty much the only file system combining a long ("Test file.txt") and short ("TESTFI~1.TXT") file name for each file? Does the patent cover only the concept of such a file system, or the implementation as well?
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If M$ is demanding royalties for FAT I think dropping FAT support would be a great thing. have you ever tried to cd to a directory in dos or linux with filenames TESTFI~1.TXT through TESTFI~9.TXT. That can get quite annoying...
DROP FAT as the standard and adopt another FS before M$ decides to get ugly... On Jan 11, 2006, at 6:36 AM, nitro2k01 wrote:
No. Long files names were incorporated into unix systems long before the days FAT, or even DOS. This patent (if correct) is linked to FAT only.
Yes of course, but isn't FAT pretty much the only file system combining a long ("Test file.txt") and short ("TESTFI~1.TXT") file name for each file? Does the patent cover only the concept of such a file system, or the implementation as well?
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Memory cards could always be sold unformatted.
On 1/11/06, nitro2k01 nitro2k01@gmail.com wrote:
No. Long files names were incorporated into unix systems long before the days FAT, or even DOS. This patent (if correct) is linked to FAT only.
Yes of course, but isn't FAT pretty much the only file system combining a long ("Test file.txt") and short ("TESTFI~1.TXT") file name for each file? Does the patent cover only the concept of such a file system, or the implementation as well?
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From: Murphy, Ged (Bolton)
nitro2k01 wrote:
I haven't seen the patant documents, but doesn't this mean that any file system which stores both long and short file names on the same volume would be theoreticlly affected?
No. Long files names were incorporated into unix systems long before the days FAT, or even DOS. This patent (if correct) is linked to FAT only.
AFAIK, it is about storing both a long and a short filename for the same file in the same directory.
GvG
No. Long files names were incorporated into unix systems long before the days FAT, or even DOS.
But not long AND short file names on one volume - i.e. DOS-compatible ones AND Windows/ROS/whatever-compatible ones.
If is true, it would effect many things, but I can't see Microsoft enforcing it, it would alienate themselves.
I think they are - especially when it comes to vendors formatting their flash cards, smart cards, digital cameras with FAT!
Just my 2 cents ;)
Oliver
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