Re: [ros-svn] [ion] 16675: - Freetype Update to 2.1.10. Reduces memory usage, increases speed and fixes drawing bugs.

[Steven Edwards]

--- [e-mail] wrote:
> Freetype Update to 2.1.10. Reduces memory usage, increases speed and fixes drawing bugs.
> Enable Bytecode. Weird_W's fonts finally look humanly readable.

Turn it off.

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[Steven Edwards]

--- Steven Edwards [e-mail] wrote:
> > Enable Bytecode. Weird_W's fonts finally look humanly readable.
>
> Turn it off.

And before anyone else tries to debate with me patents and the EU I recommend looking up the
following patents.

UK 2232861
FR 90 05712

Thanks
Steven

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[erick]

On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, Steven Edwards wrote:
> And before anyone else tries to debate with me patents and the EU I
> recommend looking up the following patents.
>
> UK 2232861
> FR 90 05712

I'll ask a naive question, is it possible to publish through a different
jurisdiction... like OpenBSD and SSH required downloads from certain
non-US countries?

Erick

[Richard]

All day i've been having trouble accessing reactos.com.  Is it just me?

[K]

Richard wrote:
> All day i've been having trouble accessing reactos.com.  Is it just me?

Just sits loading for me...

-uniQ

[Andrew Murphy]

Same here, still doing it today.

Andrew

On 7/22/05, K [e-mail] wrote:
> Richard wrote:
> > All day i've been having trouble accessing reactos.comhttp://reactos.com.
>
> Is it just me?
>
> Just sits loading for me...
>
> -uniQ
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[Casper Hornstrup]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of erick
> Sent: 22. juli 2005 04:27
> To: ReactOS Development List
> Cc: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Re: [ros-svn] [ion] 16675: - Freetype Update to 2.1.10.Reduces memory usage,
> increases speed and fixes drawing bugs.
>
> On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, Steven Edwards wrote:
> > And before anyone else tries to debate with me patents and the EU I
> > recommend looking up the following patents.
> >
> > UK 2232861
> > FR 90 05712
>
> I'll ask a naive question, is it possible to publish through a different
> jurisdiction... like OpenBSD and SSH required downloads from certain
> non-US countries?
>
> Erick

The patents only affect the binaries we publish. Since the fonts are so
poorly rendered without this, I think we should do what Erick proposed.
Release a version with this disabled for people in US, UK, and France and
another version with this enabled for the rest of the world. At least for
the bootable CD. Just because these 417 million people live in countries
that have stupid patent laws, it doesn't mean that the rest of the 6,029
million people in the world shouldn't benefit from this.

Casper

[K]

Casper Hornstrup wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of erick
> > Sent: 22. juli 2005 04:27
> > To: ReactOS Development List
> > Cc: [e-mail]
> > Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Re: [ros-svn] [ion] 16675: - Freetype Update to 2.1.10.Reduces memory usage,
> > increases speed and fixes drawing bugs.
> >
> > On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, Steven Edwards wrote:
> > > And before anyone else tries to debate with me patents and the EU I
> > > recommend looking up the following patents.
> > >
> > > UK 2232861
> > > FR 90 05712
> >
> > I'll ask a naive question, is it possible to publish through a different
> > jurisdiction... like OpenBSD and SSH required downloads from certain
> > non-US countries?
> >
> > Erick
>
> The patents only affect the binaries we publish. Since the fonts are so
> poorly rendered without this, I think we should do what Erick proposed.
> Release a version with this disabled for people in US, UK, and France and
> another version with this enabled for the rest of the world. At least for
> the bootable CD. Just because these 417 million people live in countries
> that have stupid patent laws, it doesn't mean that the rest of the 6,029
> million people in the world shouldn't benefit from this.

Just be sure you release an Antarctica version so everyone can get the
good stuff.

Seriously though, you might want to be careful about this road, it may
result in compiling a version for each separate country.

-uniQ

[Fero Vlkolinsky]

at the end - you'll be compiling different language versions for each country wouldn't you? So why not having all the possible 
code there as well?

K wrote:
> Casper Hornstrup wrote:
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of erick
> > > Sent: 22. juli 2005 04:27
> > > To: ReactOS Development List
> > > Cc: [e-mail]
> > > Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Re: [ros-svn] [ion] 16675: - Freetype Update to 2.1.10.Reduces memory usage,
> > > increases speed and fixes drawing bugs.
> > >
> > > On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, Steven Edwards wrote:
> > > > And before anyone else tries to debate with me patents and the EU I
> > > > recommend looking up the following patents.
> > > >
> > > > UK 2232861
> > > > FR 90 05712
> > >
> > > I'll ask a naive question, is it possible to publish through a different
> > > jurisdiction... like OpenBSD and SSH required downloads from certain
> > > non-US countries?
> > >
> > > Erick
> >
> > The patents only affect the binaries we publish. Since the fonts are so
> > poorly rendered without this, I think we should do what Erick proposed.
> > Release a version with this disabled for people in US, UK, and France and
> > another version with this enabled for the rest of the world. At least for
> > the bootable CD. Just because these 417 million people live in countries
> > that have stupid patent laws, it doesn't mean that the rest of the 6,029
> > million people in the world shouldn't benefit from this.
>
> Just be sure you release an Antarctica version so everyone can get the
> good stuff.
>
> Seriously though, you might want to be careful about this road, it may
> result in compiling a version for each separate country.
>     -uniQ
>
> Ros-dev mailing list
> [e-mail]
> http://reactos.com:8080/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev

[K]

Fero Vlkolinsky wrote:
> at the end - you'll be compiling different language versions for each
> country wouldn't you? So why not having all the possible code there as
> well?

I was thinking of that, but what about, say, Czech speakers in Slovakia?

-uniQ

[Andrew Murphy]

Anyway you can just like copy it almost exactly?

On 7/22/05, K [e-mail] wrote:
> Casper Hornstrup wrote:
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]]
>
> On Behalf Of erick
> > > Sent: 22. juli 2005 04:27
> > > To: ReactOS Development List
> > > Cc: [e-mail]
> > > Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Re: [ros-svn] [ion] 16675: - Freetype Update to
>
> 2.1.10.Reduces memory usage,
> > > increases speed and fixes drawing bugs.
> > >
> > > On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, Steven Edwards wrote:
> > > > And before anyone else tries to debate with me patents and the EU I
> > > > recommend looking up the following patents.
> > > >
> > > > UK 2232861
> > > > FR 90 05712
> > >
> > > I'll ask a naive question, is it possible to publish through a different
> > > jurisdiction... like OpenBSD and SSH required downloads from certain
> > > non-US countries?
> > >
> > > Erick
> >
> > The patents only affect the binaries we publish. Since the fonts are so
> > poorly rendered without this, I think we should do what Erick proposed.
> > Release a version with this disabled for people in US, UK, and France
>
> and
> > another version with this enabled for the rest of the world. At least
>
> for
> > the bootable CD. Just because these 417 million people live in countries
> > that have stupid patent laws, it doesn't mean that the rest of the 6,029
> > million people in the world shouldn't benefit from this.
>
> Just be sure you release an Antarctica version so everyone can get the
> good stuff.
>
> Seriously though, you might want to be careful about this road, it may
> result in compiling a version for each separate country.
>
> -uniQ
> _______________________________________________
> Ros-dev mailing list
> [e-mail]
> http://reactos.com:8080/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev

[Casper Hornstrup]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of K
> Sent: 22. juli 2005 09:38
> To: ReactOS Development List
> Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Re: [ros-svn] [ion] 16675: - Freetype Updateto 2.1.10.Reducesmemory usage,
> increases speed and fixes drawing bugs.
>
> Casper Hornstrup wrote:
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of erick
> > > Sent: 22. juli 2005 04:27
> > > To: ReactOS Development List
> > > Cc: [e-mail]
> > > Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Re: [ros-svn] [ion] 16675: - Freetype Update to 2.1.10.Reduces memory
>
> usage,
> > > increases speed and fixes drawing bugs.
> > >
> > > On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, Steven Edwards wrote:
> > > > And before anyone else tries to debate with me patents and the EU I
> > > > recommend looking up the following patents.
> > > >
> > > > UK 2232861
> > > > FR 90 05712
> > >
> > > I'll ask a naive question, is it possible to publish through a different
> > > jurisdiction... like OpenBSD and SSH required downloads from certain
> > > non-US countries?
> > >
> > > Erick
> >
> > The patents only affect the binaries we publish. Since the fonts are so
> > poorly rendered without this, I think we should do what Erick proposed.
> > Release a version with this disabled for people in US, UK, and France and
> > another version with this enabled for the rest of the world. At least for
> > the bootable CD. Just because these 417 million people live in countries
> > that have stupid patent laws, it doesn't mean that the rest of the 6,029
> > million people in the world shouldn't benefit from this.
>
> Just be sure you release an Antarctica version so everyone can get the
> good stuff.
>
> Seriously though, you might want to be careful about this road, it may
> result in compiling a version for each separate country.

Yes. Fortunately we've not come across that many patents that conflict with
our goals (2 in 8 years). ReactOS already "violate" the US SEH patent by using
a frame-based approach to exception handling on a stack, but if we don't
implement it then ReactOS is practically useless. We could choose to release
a version without SEH for US citizens, but so far no one has bothered to do so.

Casper

[Thomas Weidenmueller]

Casper Hornstrup wrote:
> Yes. Fortunately we've not come across that many patents that conflict with
> our goals (2 in 8 years). ReactOS already "violate" the US SEH patent by using
> a frame-based approach to exception handling on a stack, but if we don't
> implement it then ReactOS is practically useless. We could choose to release
> a version without SEH for US citizens, but so far no one has bothered to do so.
> From what I know this SEH patent only applies to SEH support integrated

in a compiler, not general usage.

Best Regards,
Thomas