Hi... I'm from BetaComp Team and I with all team members are making new operating system that will be compatible with Windows NT. It will also have Posix and its own sybsystems. It's based on knowed for most people project named ReactOS and our previously project named WinuxOS. More about HostiliX you can read on www.betacomp.info web page in Our projects sections.
Actually we're working on v0.1. When we done do it we will publish binary version and all source code.
Currently we're looking for people who knows C/C++ or Assembler and wants to help us. If you have a free time, please help us and join to our team!
Contact: rafkup@gmail.com
From: Rafal Kupiec
Hi... I'm from BetaComp Team and I with all team members are making new operating system that will be compatible with Windows NT. It will also have Posix and its own sybsystems. It's based on knowed for most people project named ReactOS and our previously project named WinuxOS. More about HostiliX you can read on www.betacomp.info web page in Our projects sections.
Hello Rafal,
You're more than welcome to base a new free OS on ReactOS, that's what free software is all about. But I wonder, what would you like to add that you feel cannot be added to ReactOS? Wouldn't it be better to join forces and make ReactOS better?
Gé van Geldorp.
I don't understand yours policy. Maybe HostiliX is compatible with Windows and based on ReactOS, but we don't want to do Windows NT clone, that ReactOS is. HostiliX will only support for Windows apps and drivers. It will also have its' own subsystem.
Ge van Geldorp wrote:
From: Rafal Kupiec
Hi... I'm from BetaComp Team and I with all team members are making new operating system that will be compatible with Windows NT. It will also have Posix and its own sybsystems. It's based on knowed for most people project named ReactOS and our previously project named WinuxOS. More about HostiliX you can read on www.betacomp.info web page in Our projects sections.
Hello Rafal,
You're more than welcome to base a new free OS on ReactOS, that's what free software is all about. But I wonder, what would you like to add that you feel cannot be added to ReactOS? Wouldn't it be better to join forces and make ReactOS better?
Gé van Geldorp.
From: Rafal Kupiec
I don't understand yours policy. Maybe HostiliX is compatible with Windows and based on ReactOS, but we don't want to do Windows NT clone, that ReactOS is. HostiliX will only support for Windows apps and drivers. It will also have its' own subsystem.
Ok, you don't want to clone MS Windows, but it's totally unclear to me what you do want to do then. Doesn't supporting Windows apps and drivers kind of imply that you're going to follow the Windows architecture? What features will HostiliX have besides the support for Windows apps and drivers?
Writing your own subsystem is something you could do inside the ReactOS project.
Gé van Geldorp.
We're going to follow Windows arch, becouse Windows isn't really bad OS, It only often hangs up. Making HostiliX we want to do new OS that will be able to run Windows Applications and drivers. Why? There's a lot of great programs and I think the most drivers for this OS (eg. there's no drovers for Canon i560 pronter for Linux). All hardware manufacturers do drivers for Windows, so we want to HostiliX be able to support them.
Why we don't help ReactOS to make it better? We hate your policy. You want to do Windows NT clone, so must you do for. example explorer? Cannot you do any other application? A few days ago I asked on ReactOS forum why your Task Manager looks buggy? e7 answered me: "Because ReactOS is still a alpha version (0.3svn), and the developers have other things todo (extend API, let applications and drivers work...)" It's your policy, that I don't understand. Why are you doing new think incompletelly? You want to do all at the same time! But we want to do less than you but better. We'll not help you, becouse we don't want to repair your bugs(eg. taskmgr). Why taskmgr is buggy? Becouse someone who developed it stoped working on it and I think start working on somethink else. I personally don't do all system ingredients. I do only one thing.
Ge van Geldorp wrote:
From: Rafal Kupiec
I don't understand yours policy. Maybe HostiliX is compatible with Windows and based on ReactOS, but we don't want to do Windows NT clone, that ReactOS is. HostiliX will only support for Windows apps and drivers. It will also have its' own subsystem.
Ok, you don't want to clone MS Windows, but it's totally unclear to me what you do want to do then. Doesn't supporting Windows apps and drivers kind of imply that you're going to follow the Windows architecture? What features will HostiliX have besides the support for Windows apps and drivers?
Writing your own subsystem is something you could do inside the ReactOS project.
Gé van Geldorp.
Rafal Kupiec wrote:
We're going to follow Windows arch, becouse Windows isn't really bad OS, It only often hangs up. Making HostiliX we want to do new OS that will be able to run Windows Applications and drivers.
That's what ReactOS is.
Why? There's a lot of great programs and I think the most drivers for this OS (eg. there's no drovers for Canon i560 pronter for Linux). All hardware manufacturers do drivers for Windows, so we want to HostiliX be able to support them.
That's what ReactOS is.
Why we don't help ReactOS to make it better? We hate your policy. You want to do Windows NT clone, so must you do for. example explorer? Cannot you do any other application?
You don't want us to use explorer? I don't understand. Explorer is the shell on Windows, so we must clone it so that users can feel at home.
A few days ago I asked on ReactOS forum why your Task Manager looks buggy? e7 answered me: "Because ReactOS is still a alpha version (0.3svn), and the developers have other things todo (extend API, let applications and drivers work...)"
Actually it's because of some bugs in Win32K that aren't our priority right now. If you copy our code your taskmgr will have the same bug. Run it in windows, and you'll see it runs excellent.
It's your policy, that I don't understand. Why are you doing new think incompletelly?
Taskmgr is 100% complete. Try it in windows. Win32K took Microsoft years to finish, and still has bugs. So does ours. We are in alpha version, it's normal.
You want to do all at the same time!
The design of Windows requires a minimal amount of things to be ready simulatanously. We can't say "ok guys, let's work 100% on the kernel for the next 2 years". Window's design doesn't allow that, which is why we needed to work 50% on everything and then improve bit by bit.
But we want to do less than you but better. We'll not help you, becouse we don't want to repair your bugs(eg. taskmgr).
If you take our GPL Code and "not help us" (ie: not re-release your modified sources) then you are committing copyright infringement and violating the GPL license. I thought you want to make an OS, not go to jail...
Why taskmgr is buggy?
I just told you.
Becouse someone who developed it stoped working on it and I think start working on somethink else.
No, taskmgr is not buggy. The developer stopped working on it because it works. If you don't understand that this is because of win32k, you shouldn't be coding a Windows OS.
I personally don't do all system ingredients. I do only one thing.
Good luck. Works for monolithic kernels. Won't work for a micro-kernel subsystem architecture like NT.
Best regards, Alex Ionescu Kernel Developer, ReactOS
1) Win32k.sys is buggy, but TaskMgr is buggy too - performance card. We repaired it and it displays correctly on ReactOS.
2) You can use our code. It will be published on GPL.
3) Yeah, explorer is Windows shell. But you musn't clone it. You can do somethink else, somethink better, somethink, what will can reply Explorer.
4) We'll not help you by commiting patches to your SVN or submiting to you diffs. If you want, you can use our code. It will be published on SVN server on GNU General Public License.
Alex Ionescu wrote:
Rafal Kupiec wrote:
We're going to follow Windows arch, becouse Windows isn't really bad OS, It only often hangs up. Making HostiliX we want to do new OS that will be able to run Windows Applications and drivers.
That's what ReactOS is.
Why? There's a lot of great programs and I think the most drivers for this OS (eg. there's no drovers for Canon i560 pronter for Linux). All hardware manufacturers do drivers for Windows, so we want to HostiliX be able to support them.
That's what ReactOS is.
Why we don't help ReactOS to make it better? We hate your policy. You want to do Windows NT clone, so must you do for. example explorer? Cannot you do any other application?
You don't want us to use explorer? I don't understand. Explorer is the shell on Windows, so we must clone it so that users can feel at home.
A few days ago I asked on ReactOS forum why your Task Manager looks buggy? e7 answered me: "Because ReactOS is still a alpha version (0.3svn), and the developers have other things todo (extend API, let applications and drivers work...)"
Actually it's because of some bugs in Win32K that aren't our priority right now. If you copy our code your taskmgr will have the same bug. Run it in windows, and you'll see it runs excellent.
It's your policy, that I don't understand. Why are you doing new think incompletelly?
Taskmgr is 100% complete. Try it in windows. Win32K took Microsoft years to finish, and still has bugs. So does ours. We are in alpha version, it's normal.
You want to do all at the same time!
The design of Windows requires a minimal amount of things to be ready simulatanously. We can't say "ok guys, let's work 100% on the kernel for the next 2 years". Window's design doesn't allow that, which is why we needed to work 50% on everything and then improve bit by bit.
But we want to do less than you but better. We'll not help you, becouse we don't want to repair your bugs(eg. taskmgr).
If you take our GPL Code and "not help us" (ie: not re-release your modified sources) then you are committing copyright infringement and violating the GPL license. I thought you want to make an OS, not go to jail...
Why taskmgr is buggy?
I just told you.
Becouse someone who developed it stoped working on it and I think start working on somethink else.
No, taskmgr is not buggy. The developer stopped working on it because it works. If you don't understand that this is because of win32k, you shouldn't be coding a Windows OS.
I personally don't do all system ingredients. I do only one thing.
Good luck. Works for monolithic kernels. Won't work for a micro-kernel subsystem architecture like NT.
Best regards, Alex Ionescu Kernel Developer, ReactOS
Maybe it's a cultural difference, maybe it's because we're both not native English speakers, maybe I'm just too sensitive, but.... I think your posts sound a bit aggressive. I'm wondering why? What did ReactOS do to deserve that tone/attitude?
- We'll not help you by commiting patches to your SVN or
submiting to you diffs.
You do realize that this will also mean that, as time goes by, it will become harder and harder for you to merge in bugfixes from ReactOS into your project, since the source bases will drift apart?
Gé van Geldorp.
Maybe my posts sounds a bit aggressive, but I didn't want to write aggressive posts. Maybe it's that, becouse English isn't my strong side? I'm not attacking ReactOS. I only write about us project. Maybe is here someone, who wants to help us make HostiliX really good OS?
I know that maybe sounds funny: We're making OS based on ReactOS and don't want to help make ReactOS better. But we don't like Windows. We don't want to do all Windows applications. We want to do completelly new OS, that will be albe to run Windows applications and use Windows drivers. None more. We want to do stable, fast operating system. It will have its own API (subsystem) and for example Posix subsystem. HostiliX have only Windows base software. It'll not looks like Windows. It's only architecture and directory structure.
What we don't like in ReactOS? What disturb us? 1) New XML build system. I heared that it should be faster, but it isn't. After compilation files have 2-3x more size. Standard makefiles was better. 2) Making ReactOS Windows style. For eg. why do you implementing explorer to ReactOS? It musn't be there. But, you can write your own shell. It can looks like any existing shell (eg. Gnome, KDE, LiteStep). Why just Windows? Is it the most beautifull Operating System? 3) Why all system is compressed to cabinet (CAB) file? Becouse Windows uses this compresion. Why are you doing all like Microsoft? Is Bill Gates paying you for cloning his OS? There's better, more beautifull and with more capabilities shelles. And all of them are user-friendly!
2/3) You want to do Windows clone, becouse the most poeple use it. So, you want to do free Widnows. But we want to do completelly new OS, that what I said it will be able to run Widnows apps and load windows drivers. That's all. Of course we can cooperate if you want. You can get our patches from HostiliX's SVN and we can get your patches from ReactOS's SVN.
Actually we're only looking for people who symphatetic our idea to make completelly new OS (somethink like modified Windows). On most forum boards where are Windows Customization sections you can see Windows with Aqua style (they're changing Windows to look like MacOS or Linux)
Ge van Geldorp wrote:
Maybe it's a cultural difference, maybe it's because we're both not native English speakers, maybe I'm just too sensitive, but.... I think your posts sound a bit aggressive. I'm wondering why? What did ReactOS do to deserve that tone/attitude?
- We'll not help you by commiting patches to your SVN or
submiting to you diffs.
You do realize that this will also mean that, as time goes by, it will become harder and harder for you to merge in bugfixes from ReactOS into your project, since the source bases will drift apart?
Gé van Geldorp.
Hi Rafal,
2/3) You want to do Windows clone, becouse the most poeple use it. So, you want to do free Widnows. But we want to do completelly new OS, that what I said it will be able to run Widnows apps and load windows drivers. That's all. Of course we can cooperate if you want. You can get our patches from HostiliX's SVN and we can get your patches from ReactOS's SVN.
When do you expect will you make your source code public, so we can have a look at e.g. your taskmanager bugfixes? Your SVN repository is currently empty.
Actually we're only looking for people who symphatetic our idea to make completelly new OS (somethink like modified Windows).
Sure, this is also something I am missing a bit in ReactOS: It's not possible to implement much enhancements over MS Windows - there is always this "100 % compatibility" sword of damocles. Extending the WIN32 API is not possible without breaking the compatibility of ROS applications, which should also be able to run on MS Windows.
On most forum boards where are Windows Customization sections you can see Windows with Aqua style (they're changing Windows to look like MacOS or Linux)
The GUI style is just kind of fashion. For example after Longhorn gets released, this trends will change again IMHO.
Regards,
Martin
Yes, but explorer is only software. In oldest version of Windows there was progman. You mustn't do explorer.
Martin Fuchs wrote:
Sure, this is also something I am missing a bit in ReactOS: It's not possible to implement much enhancements over MS Windows - there is always this "100 % compatibility" sword of damocles. Extending the WIN32 API is not possible without breaking the compatibility of ROS applications, which should also be able to run on MS Windows.
2005/6/5, Rafal Kupiec betacomp@gmail.com:
Yes, but explorer is only software. In oldest version of Windows there was progman. You mustn't do explorer.
If you don't like explorer, you can always replace it by some other shell like GeoShell, BlackBox or whatever... But I hope you don't say Progman would be a better thing than explorer. ;-)
Martin Fuchs wrote:
2005/6/5, Rafal Kupiec betacomp@gmail.com:
Yes, but explorer is only software. In oldest version of Windows there was progman. You mustn't do explorer.
If you don't like explorer, you can always replace it by some other shell like GeoShell, BlackBox or whatever... But I hope you don't say Progman would be a better thing than explorer. ;-)
No, I don't.
-----Original Message----- From: ros-dev-bounces@reactos.com [mailto:ros-dev-bounces@reactos.com] On Behalf Of Rafal Kupiec Sent: 5. juni 2005 11:42 To: ros-dev@reactos.com Subject: [ros-dev] Re: New OS built on ReactOS and WinuxOS technology!
Maybe my posts sounds a bit aggressive, but I didn't want to write aggressive posts. Maybe it's that, becouse English isn't my strong side? I'm not attacking ReactOS. I only write about us project. Maybe is here someone, who wants to help us make HostiliX really good OS?
What we don't like in ReactOS? What disturb us?
- New XML build system. I heared that it should be faster, but it
isn't. After compilation files have 2-3x more size. Standard makefiles was better.
On Windows, it's capable of building a bootable CD ~50% faster than the old system was. Don't compare a DBG=0 with a DBG=1 build.
- Making ReactOS Windows style. For eg. why do you implementing
explorer to ReactOS? It musn't be there. But, you can write your own shell. It can looks like any existing shell (eg. Gnome, KDE, LiteStep). Why just Windows? Is it the most beautifull Operating System?
Windows has many good qualities.
- Why all system is compressed to cabinet (CAB) file? Becouse Windows
uses this compresion. Why are you doing all like Microsoft? Is Bill Gates paying you for cloning his OS? There's better, more beautifull and with more capabilities shelles. And all of them are user-friendly!
Because cabinet files have good access times when you need to pull out just one file. And yes, Bill is sponsoring me. He even sends me gifts. Last christmas I got a spacy looking USB mouse from him.
2/3) You want to do Windows clone, becouse the most poeple use it. So, you want to do free Widnows. But we want to do completelly new OS, that what I said it will be able to run Widnows apps and load windows drivers. That's all. Of course we can cooperate if you want. You can get our patches from HostiliX's SVN and we can get your patches from ReactOS's SVN.
ReactOS is not a clone of Windows. On www.reactos.com, "ReactOS is an Open Source effort to develop a quality operating system that is compatible with Microsoft Windows(R) applications and drivers." says it all.
Actually we're only looking for people who symphatetic our idea to make completelly new OS (somethink like modified Windows). On most forum boards where are Windows Customization sections you can see Windows with Aqua style (they're changing Windows to look like MacOS or Linux)
It doesn't sound like it's a completely new OS. It sounds more like a fork of ReactOS.
PS. Don't compare these: http://www.reactos.com/en/content/view/full/177 http://savannah.gnu.org/task/?func=detailitem&item_id=3642
Casper
Casper Hornstrup wrote:
On Windows, it's capable of building a bootable CD ~50% faster than the old system was. Don't compare a DBG=0 with a DBG=1 build.
I was talking about compilation process and linked files size.
ReactOS is not a clone of Windows. On www.reactos.com, "ReactOS is an Open Source effort to develop a quality operating system that is compatible with Microsoft Windows(R) applications and drivers." says it all.
Maybe ReactOS isn't Windows clone, but you're making Windows clone, so you're making explorer and other Windows stuff. Don't forget to do Paint, Wordpad, progman, (...). You also made setup in Windows style. Hopelessness!
Rafal Kupiec wrote:
Maybe ReactOS isn't Windows clone, but you're making Windows clone, so you're making explorer and other Windows stuff. Don't forget to do Paint, Wordpad, progman, (...). You also made setup in Windows style. Hopelessness!
No! If Ros was a clone, Ros would use windows or winnt as the main directory. 8^D James
James Tabor wrote:
Rafal Kupiec wrote:
Maybe ReactOS isn't Windows clone, but you're making Windows clone, so you're making explorer and other Windows stuff. Don't forget to do Paint, Wordpad, progman, (...). You also made setup in Windows style. Hopelessness!
No! If Ros was a clone, Ros would use windows or winnt as the main directory. 8^D James
It's only directory structure. But all other things are in Windows style, what bear witness to ReactOS is Windows clone.
BTW Maybe Longhorn in final version will install in Longhorn, not Windows or WinNT directory?
Rafal Kupiec, I hope you and your HostiliX team will not make the same bad move which another project called "Ekush OS" made some months ago.
Some links to this topic: http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=8830 http://blight.eu.org/reactos/ekush.html
I write this because your posts sounds a bit agressive and the your project description is almost a 1:1 copy from the reactos.com page!!!
"At the end of 1997, the project had burnt out with nothing to show. Jason Filby became project coordinator and called on everyone still subscribed to the list to revive the project." -original from reactos.com
"At the end of 1999, the project had burnt out with nothing to show. Rafal K. became project coordinator and called on everyone still subscribed to the list to revive the project." -your description
You want to compare more? Here some more passages:
"It was decided that the target should be Windows NT and that there would be an emphasis on results -- on written code rather than endless talk. The project was renamed ReactOS, since the operating system's roots grew out of a dissatisfaction with Microsoft's monopoly over the operating system market. In February 1998, ReactOS began. " -original from reactos.com
"It was decided that the target should be Windows NT/2000 and that there would be an emphasis on results - on written code rather than endless talk. The project was renamed HostiliX, since the operating system's roots grew out of a dissatisfaction with Microsoft's monopoly over the operating system market. In January 2001 HostiliX began. " -your description
And many other same passages ...
Please compare yourself: original article: http://www.reactos.com/en/content/view/full/177 your 1:1 copy: http://savannah.gnu.org/task/?func=detailitem&item_id=3642
shame on you.
Rafal Kupiec wrote: WinuxOS wasn't nice copy of Windows 2000 with polish translation. It was somethink like ReactOS today. It was written by polish coders, so it had (only) polish translation.
Hartmut Birr wrote: I've compared scsiport.sys from WinuxOS (from sourceforge) and Windows 2000 with FileAlyzer. All sections except the .rsrc and .rdata section have the same checksum. Your scsiport.sys is a copy from Windows 2000! Look at the attached screen shots.
And when I read the mail from Hartmut Birr it reminds me also to the "Ekush OS" shit.
I really hope you do your best to show us that my suspicions are nothing worth.
Okay, good luck with your project.
Klemens Friedl
I hope so. Thanks!
Klemens Friedl wrote:
Rafal Kupiec, I hope you and your HostiliX team will not make the same bad move which another project called "Ekush OS" made some months ago.
Some links to this topic: http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=8830 http://blight.eu.org/reactos/ekush.html
I write this because your posts sounds a bit agressive and the your project description is almost a 1:1 copy from the reactos.com page!!!
"At the end of 1997, the project had burnt out with nothing to show. Jason Filby became project coordinator and called on everyone still subscribed to the list to revive the project." -original from reactos.com
"At the end of 1999, the project had burnt out with nothing to show. Rafal K. became project coordinator and called on everyone still subscribed to the list to revive the project." -your description
You want to compare more? Here some more passages:
"It was decided that the target should be Windows NT and that there would be an emphasis on results -- on written code rather than endless talk. The project was renamed ReactOS, since the operating system's roots grew out of a dissatisfaction with Microsoft's monopoly over the operating system market. In February 1998, ReactOS began. " -original from reactos.com
"It was decided that the target should be Windows NT/2000 and that there would be an emphasis on results - on written code rather than endless talk. The project was renamed HostiliX, since the operating system's roots grew out of a dissatisfaction with Microsoft's monopoly over the operating system market. In January 2001 HostiliX began. " -your description
And many other same passages ...
Please compare yourself: original article: http://www.reactos.com/en/content/view/full/177 your 1:1 copy: http://savannah.gnu.org/task/?func=detailitem&item_id=3642
shame on you.
Rafal Kupiec wrote: WinuxOS wasn't nice copy of Windows 2000 with polish translation. It was somethink like ReactOS today. It was written by polish coders, so it had (only) polish translation.
Hartmut Birr wrote: I've compared scsiport.sys from WinuxOS (from sourceforge) and Windows 2000 with FileAlyzer. All sections except the .rsrc and .rdata section have the same checksum. Your scsiport.sys is a copy from Windows 2000! Look at the attached screen shots.
And when I read the mail from Hartmut Birr it reminds me also to the "Ekush OS" shit.
I really hope you do your best to show us that my suspicions are nothing worth.
Okay, good luck with your project.
Klemens Friedl
Rafal Kupiec wrote:
I hope so. Thanks!
Rafal,
I am checking out your kernel code (because what's what I work in) and I noticed you've removed all notices of my copyright on those files. I cannot speak for other developers, but for myself, I am disgusted and pissed. I retain all copyright on the code that I've written (which means about 40% of your kernel) and I demand for my name and contact information to be re-added to your sources. What you are doing is illegal under copyright law. You cannot take a book, rip out the copyright notice and write "WRITTEN BY RAFAL KUPIEC". I am willing to assume that you've made an honest mistake. I'm hoping that you will change the files which contain my copyright on them to reflect this. I assume other developers would want the same, but I cannot legally speak up for them.
Best regards, Alex Ionescu
I'm seeing parallels between the ReactOS/HostilliX Spat (And indeed, the ReactOS/EkushOS Spat), and the PearPC/CherryOS Spat.
In reply to Rafal, ROS is not a 'Clone' of Windows. A Clone is, essentually, a 1:1 copy of something. If you build something from scratch, and program it to accept program instructions from a Specific Architecture, that is not 'cloning'.
As long as the GPL is obeyed, there shouldn't be a problem... we hope.
On 6/5/05, Alex Ionescu ionucu@videotron.ca wrote:
Rafal Kupiec wrote:
I hope so. Thanks!
Rafal,
I am checking out your kernel code (because what's what I work in) and I noticed you've removed all notices of my copyright on those files. I cannot speak for other developers, but for myself, I am disgusted and pissed. I retain all copyright on the code that I've written (which means about 40% of your kernel) and I demand for my name and contact information to be re-added to your sources. What you are doing is illegal under copyright law. You cannot take a book, rip out the copyright notice and write "WRITTEN BY RAFAL KUPIEC". I am willing to assume that you've made an honest mistake. I'm hoping that you will change the files which contain my copyright on them to reflect this. I assume other developers would want the same, but I cannot legally speak up for them.
Best regards, Alex Ionescu
Ros-dev mailing list Ros-dev@reactos.com http://reactos.com:8080/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
I understand you. I'll read GPL License well and if I break it, i'll repair all sources and copyrights. Today you're in ReactOS Team and I wrte Based on ReactOS Technology, so it's legal for me, but for reliability i'll check it.
If I broke GPL license, i'm sorry. I'll repair it.
Yours faithfully, Rafal Kupiec
Alex Ionescu wrote:
Rafal Kupiec wrote:
I hope so. Thanks!
Rafal,
I am checking out your kernel code (because what's what I work in) and I noticed you've removed all notices of my copyright on those files. I cannot speak for other developers, but for myself, I am disgusted and pissed. I retain all copyright on the code that I've written (which means about 40% of your kernel) and I demand for my name and contact information to be re-added to your sources. What you are doing is illegal under copyright law. You cannot take a book, rip out the copyright notice and write "WRITTEN BY RAFAL KUPIEC". I am willing to assume that you've made an honest mistake. I'm hoping that you will change the files which contain my copyright on them to reflect this. I assume other developers would want the same, but I cannot legally speak up for them.
Best regards, Alex Ionescu
My English is bad, so if I don't have a reason, please correct me: I readed in GPL:
"2. You may modify your copy or copies of the Program or any portion of it, thus forming a work based on the Program, and copy and distribute such modifications or work under the terms of Section 1 above, provided that you also meet all of these conditions:
* a) You must cause the modified files to carry prominent notices stating that you changed the files and the date of any change.
* b) You must cause any work that you distribute or publish, that in whole or in part contains or is derived from the Program or any part thereof, to be licensed as a whole at no charge to all third parties under the terms of this License.
* c) If the modified program normally reads commands interactively when run, you must cause it, when started running for such interactive use in the most ordinary way, to print or display an announcement including an appropriate copyright notice and a notice that there is no warranty (or else, saying that you provide a warranty) and that users may redistribute the program under these conditions, and telling the user how to view a copy of this License. (Exception: if the Program itself is interactive but does not normally print such an announcement, your work based on the Program is not required to print an announcement.)"
As I readed: "(...) You may modify your copy or copies of the Program or any portion of it, thus forming a work based on the Program (...)"
1) I may modify ReactOS Sources, what I did. 2) I must inform, that I modified ReactOS Sources, so I wrote as: "Based on ReactOS Technology". In GPL isn't any fragment that means that I must write all authors of this file.
If i don't have reason, please correct me and quote me any fragment of GPL, that constains this reason.
Yours faithfully, Rafal Kupiec
Alex Ionescu wrote:
Rafal Kupiec wrote:
I hope so. Thanks!
Rafal,
I am checking out your kernel code (because what's what I work in) and I noticed you've removed all notices of my copyright on those files. I cannot speak for other developers, but for myself, I am disgusted and pissed. I retain all copyright on the code that I've written (which means about 40% of your kernel) and I demand for my name and contact information to be re-added to your sources. What you are doing is illegal under copyright law. You cannot take a book, rip out the copyright notice and write "WRITTEN BY RAFAL KUPIEC". I am willing to assume that you've made an honest mistake. I'm hoping that you will change the files which contain my copyright on them to reflect this. I assume other developers would want the same, but I cannot legally speak up for them.
Best regards, Alex Ionescu
Czesc Rafal,
I am no ROS developer (but a developer), but reading the list and your dispute for a while.
Besides being highly immoral to remove the copyright of the original author without any license given, the GPL clearly states that you must not remove the copyright information in your derived work.
For more informations you may read the FAQ: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html
!!!!! In the FAQ the following point is relevant in your case: "The GPL requires all copies to carry an appropriate copyright notice." !!!!!
Furthermore you can read the GPL in Polish (although not legally binding in this form) by asking Google for "GPL po polsku". To make it easier for you, here's a direct link: http://gnu.org.pl/text/licencja-gnu.html
Best regards,
Oliver
--- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --- Von: Rafal Kupiec betacomp@gmail.com An: ros-dev@reactos.com Betreff: [ros-dev] Re: New OS built on ReactOS and WinuxOS technology! Datum: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 15:11:09 +0200
My English is bad, so if I don't have a reason, please correct me: I readed in GPL:
"2. You may modify your copy or copies of the Program or any portion of it, thus forming a work based on the Program, and copy and distribute such modifications or work under the terms of Section 1 above, provided that you also meet all of these conditions:
* a) You must cause the modified files to carry prominent noticesstating that you changed the files and the date of any change.
* b) You must cause any work that you distribute or publish, that inwhole or in part contains or is derived from the Program or any part thereof, to be licensed as a whole at no charge to all third parties under the terms of this License.
* c) If the modified program normally reads commands interactivelywhen run, you must cause it, when started running for such interactive use in the most ordinary way, to print or display an announcement including an appropriate copyright notice and a notice that there is no warranty (or else, saying that you provide a warranty) and that users may redistribute the program under these conditions, and telling the user how to view a copy of this License. (Exception: if the Program itself is interactive but does not normally print such an announcement, your work based on the Program is not required to print an announcement.)"
As I readed: "(...) You may modify your copy or copies of the Program or any portion of it, thus forming a work based on the Program (...)"
- I may modify ReactOS Sources, what I did.
- I must inform, that I modified ReactOS Sources, so I wrote as: "Based
on ReactOS Technology". In GPL isn't any fragment that means that I must write all authors of this file.
If i don't have reason, please correct me and quote me any fragment of GPL, that constains this reason.
Yours faithfully, Rafal Kupiec
Alex Ionescu wrote:
Rafal Kupiec wrote:
I hope so. Thanks!
Rafal,
I am checking out your kernel code (because what's what I work in) and I noticed you've removed all notices of my copyright on those files. I cannot speak for other developers, but for myself, I am disgusted and pissed. I retain all copyright on the code that I've written (which means about 40% of your kernel) and I demand for my name and contact information to be re-added to your sources. What you are doing is illegal under copyright law. You cannot take a book, rip out the copyright notice and write "WRITTEN BY RAFAL KUPIEC". I am willing to assume that you've made an honest mistake. I'm hoping that you will change the files which contain my copyright on them to reflect this. I assume other developers would want the same, but I cannot legally speak up for them.
Best regards, Alex Ionescu
Ros-dev mailing list Ros-dev@reactos.com http://reactos.com:8080/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
-----Original Message----- From: ros-dev-bounces@reactos.com [mailto:ros-dev-bounces@reactos.com] On Behalf Of Oliver Schneider Sent: 6. juni 2005 15:32 To: ReactOS Development List Cc: Rafal Kupiec Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Re: New OS built on ReactOS and WinuxOS technology!
For more informations you may read the FAQ: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html
!!!!! In the FAQ the following point is relevant in your case: "The GPL requires all copies to carry an appropriate copyright notice." !!!!!
Then we should go through every file in svn and add an appropriate copyright notice. Many files containing original code don't have an appropriate copyright notice. We should also require this for all future changes.
Casper
Then we should go through every file in svn and add an appropriate copyright notice. Many files containing original code don't have an appropriate copyright notice. We should also require this for all future changes.
Indeed. I can only tell how we do it in certain JEDI projects.
1. The name of the current module (title) 2. Any copyrights (all authors, whether active or not, being mentioned) 3. Project information. For ROS it would be something like Obtained through ReactOS project. You may find the latest version of this module at http://reactos. ... 4. License terms (with reference to the GPL which is anyway included as a text file). If multiple licenses, then for each one such clause.
This works quite well and gives all files a standard look. Every author decides himself whether a change was worth the mentioning in the header (e.g. usually changing the case of a variable won't qualify for a copyright notice - just common sense ;-).
Oliver
PS: Nevertheless it sounded in Alex' mail that he *had* his copyright properly included. Which on the other hand means that removal of it *was already an illegal act* itself. This is not touched in any way by the missing copyright notices you mentioned, Casper.
Rafal Kupiec wrote:
- I may modify ReactOS Sources, what I did.
- I must inform, that I modified ReactOS Sources, so I wrote as: "Based
on ReactOS Technology". In GPL isn't any fragment that means that I must write all authors of this file.
First of all, "ReactOS Technology" is not a legal person that can reprsent copyright. A copyright is registered to a legal entitiy (such as a person, or company). You can't register a copyright to a "technology". So at the very least you should say "Based on work done by the ReactOS Foundation, (c) 2000-2005". Even if that were the case, I have not I have not submitted my work under the ReactOS Foundation, so I retain copyright. In that case you are misrepresenting the valid copyright owner...
Best regards, Alex Ionescu
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Alex Ionescu wrote:
Rafal Kupiec wrote:
- I may modify ReactOS Sources, what I did.
- I must inform, that I modified ReactOS Sources, so I wrote as: "Based
on ReactOS Technology". In GPL isn't any fragment that means that I must write all authors of this file.
First of all, "ReactOS Technology" is not a legal person that can reprsent copyright. A copyright is registered to a legal entitiy (such as a person, or company). You can't register a copyright to a "technology". So at the very least you should say "Based on work done by the ReactOS Foundation, (c) 2000-2005". Even if that were the case, I have not I have not submitted my work under the ReactOS Foundation, so I retain copyright. In that case you are misrepresenting the valid copyright owner...
If the license is GPL, and the statement that it is based on ReactOS technology is made, what is the issue? The statement used doesn't imply that "ReactOS Technology" is an entity that can represent Copyright, it implies that it's based (derived from) ReactOS technology, which is licensed under the GPL and thus open for modification without restriction (save the restrictions present in the GPL).
The GPL requires any Copyrights that are in place to remain there. The changed version must reflect the original. For example, if "Help --> About" shows "ReactOS, Copyright (C) 2001-2005 The ReactOS Foundation, Portions Copyright Alex Ionescu" or something similar, or a list, then fine. A new release by someone else may change the "ReactOS Foundation" part, but must still site it as a potential Copyright holder. However, the new party that has rebundled it, owns the Copyright on the distribution so long as it contains different things.
(Another aside: The Foundation can, at its discretion, create an official "layout" for the installer CD and then Copyright that layout, such that nobody else can use it. While it's possible, it can effectively "cramp" the software and innovation surrounding it, and it's not advisable. Others then must choose different "layouts" for their installers of their derived works, and this would require heavy modifications to installers and the like to find files in new locations.)
A little bit about Copyright Law, now. A developer holds copyright to the portions of the code that (s)he contributed to the project, and that is all. The group that is responsible for putting it together, then owns the copyright on the layout, and so forth. So, if releases are the Foundation's job, then whether they claim their Copyright or not, it is, in fact, their Copyright. If someone other then the Foundation packages it for the ReactOS web site, then *THEY* hold the Copyright, and they can therefore claim that they are "the" Copyright holder for the Official Distribution of the ReactOS project.
That does not exclude the developers to their Copyright, rather, it adds to it.
And finally, please note the following section in the GPL:
"2. You may modify your copy or copies of the Program or any portion of it, thus forming a work based on the Program, and copy and distribute such modifications or work under the terms of Section 1 above, provided that you also meet all of these conditions:
" a) You must cause the modified files to carry prominent notices stating that you changed the files and the date of any change.
" b) You must cause any work that you distribute or publish, that in whole or in part contains or is derived from the Program or any part thereof, to be licensed as a whole at no charge to all third parties under the terms of this License.
" c) If the modified program normally reads commands interactively when run, you must cause it, when started running for such interactive use in the most ordinary way, to print or display an announcement including an appropriate copyright notice and a notice that there is no warranty (or else, saying that you provide a warranty) and that users may redistribute the program under these conditions, and telling the user how to view a copy of this License. (Exception: if the Program itself is interactive but does not normally print such an announcement, your work based on the Program is not required to print an announcement.)"
According to this, if the program prints notices, these notices must be updated to reflect the state of the program. If the program does not print such notices, the modifying party is not required to change them, because they do not exist.
If there is something here that's a violation, then enforce it. However, from what I can tell just waking up and seeing this in my e-mail box, the author in question did even more then they had to do to be compliant.
- Mike
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From: Michael B. Trausch
If the license is GPL, and the statement that it is based on ReactOS technology is made, what is the issue?
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The GPL requires any Copyrights that are in place to remain there.
That's the issue. Copyright notices were removed from source files. It seems to be a big misunderstanding and the Hostilix guys have said they will put back those copyright notices.
Gé van Geldorp.
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Ge van Geldorp wrote:
That's the issue. Copyright notices were removed from source files. It seems to be a big misunderstanding and the Hostilix guys have said they will put back those copyright notices.
Gé van Geldorp.
Ahh, that I was not aware of. I'd only seen the thing stating that "based on ReactOS Technology" is a means of misrepresenting the copyright on a distribution of React- which it isn't.
Shows that perhaps my eyes should be more open in the mornings... lol.
- Mike
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Ge van Geldorp wrote:
From: Michael B. Trausch
If the license is GPL, and the statement that it is based on ReactOS technology is made, what is the issue?
<cut>
The GPL requires any Copyrights that are in place to remain there.
That's the issue. Copyright notices were removed from source files. It seems to be a big misunderstanding and the Hostilix guys have said they will put back those copyright notices.
Gé van Geldorp.
Yes, I said that and i'll do that. As you see, I removed all sources from SVN.
Perhaps you should come visit us in the reactos IRC channel...
irc.freenode.net #reactos
And have a chat with the people that created the work your project is based on.
-----Original Message----- From: ros-dev-bounces@reactos.com [mailto:ros-dev-bounces@reactos.com]On Behalf Of Rafal Kupiec Sent: 05 June 2005 12:50 To: ros-dev@reactos.com Subject: [ros-dev] Re: New OS built on ReactOS and WinuxOS technology!
Casper Hornstrup wrote:
On Windows, it's capable of building a bootable CD ~50% faster than the old system was. Don't compare a DBG=0 with a DBG=1 build.
I was talking about compilation process and linked files size.
ReactOS is not a clone of Windows. On www.reactos.com, "ReactOS is an Open Source effort to develop a quality operating system
that is compatible with Microsoft Windows(R) applications
and drivers." says it all.
Maybe ReactOS isn't Windows clone, but you're making Windows clone, so you're making explorer and other Windows stuff. Don't forget to do Paint, Wordpad, progman, (...). You also made setup in Windows style. Hopelessness!
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Rafal Kupiec wrote:
What we don't like in ReactOS? What disturb us?
- New XML build system. I heared that it should be faster, but it
isn't. After compilation files have 2-3x more size. Standard makefiles was better.
You can set DBG=0 in cofig.xml and every thing will be as before.
2/3) You want to do Windows clone, becouse the most poeple use it. So, you want to do free Widnows. But we want to do completelly new OS, that what I said it will be able to run Widnows apps and load windows drivers. That's all. Of course we can cooperate if you want. You can get our patches from HostiliX's SVN and we can get your patches from ReactOS's SVN.
What you want to do sound to me like a ReactOs distro. (with fixed taskmgr, another shell, 7zip insteed of cab.) But there is no real difference.
The only thing is that have your own driver format, but could you tell me what is the improvement here ?
Maarten Bosma
PS: Did you try our current task manager under windows ? It really works perfectly.
We're wandering from topic. I only wanted to inform poeople about new Operating System based on ReactOS and you attacked me why can't we develop ReactOS. I think at this time it's end of topic, just for me. What I said you can use our sources and we'll use your sources. It's in my opinion some help for ReactOS and HostiliX too.
Maarten Bosma wrote:
Rafal Kupiec wrote:
What we don't like in ReactOS? What disturb us?
- New XML build system. I heared that it should be faster, but it
isn't. After compilation files have 2-3x more size. Standard makefiles was better.
You can set DBG=0 in cofig.xml and every thing will be as before.
2/3) You want to do Windows clone, becouse the most poeple use it. So, you want to do free Widnows. But we want to do completelly new OS, that what I said it will be able to run Widnows apps and load windows drivers. That's all. Of course we can cooperate if you want. You can get our patches from HostiliX's SVN and we can get your patches from ReactOS's SVN.
What you want to do sound to me like a ReactOs distro. (with fixed taskmgr, another shell, 7zip insteed of cab.) But there is no real difference.
The only thing is that have your own driver format, but could you tell me what is the improvement here ?
Maarten Bosma
PS: Did you try our current task manager under windows ? It really works perfectly.
Perhaps you should come visit us in the reactos IRC channel...
irc.freenode.net #reactos
And have a chat with the people that created the work your project is based on.
-----Original Message----- From: ros-dev-bounces@reactos.com [mailto:ros-dev-bounces@reactos.com]On Behalf Of Rafal Kupiec Sent: 05 June 2005 10:42 To: ros-dev@reactos.com Subject: [ros-dev] Re: New OS built on ReactOS and WinuxOS technology!
Maybe my posts sounds a bit aggressive, but I didn't want to write aggressive posts. Maybe it's that, becouse English isn't my strong side? I'm not attacking ReactOS. I only write about us project. Maybe is here someone, who wants to help us make HostiliX really good OS?
I know that maybe sounds funny: We're making OS based on ReactOS and don't want to help make ReactOS better. But we don't like Windows. We don't want to do all Windows applications. We want to do completelly new OS, that will be albe to run Windows applications and use Windows drivers. None more. We want to do stable, fast operating system. It will have its own API (subsystem) and for example Posix subsystem. HostiliX have only Windows base software. It'll not looks like Windows. It's only architecture and directory structure.
What we don't like in ReactOS? What disturb us? 1) New XML build system. I heared that it should be faster, but it isn't. After compilation files have 2-3x more size. Standard makefiles was better. 2) Making ReactOS Windows style. For eg. why do you implementing explorer to ReactOS? It musn't be there. But, you can write your own shell. It can looks like any existing shell (eg. Gnome, KDE, LiteStep). Why just Windows? Is it the most beautifull Operating System? 3) Why all system is compressed to cabinet (CAB) file? Becouse Windows uses this compresion. Why are you doing all like Microsoft? Is Bill Gates paying you for cloning his OS? There's better, more beautifull and with more capabilities shelles. And all of them are user-friendly!
2/3) You want to do Windows clone, becouse the most poeple use it. So, you want to do free Widnows. But we want to do completelly new OS, that what I said it will be able to run Widnows apps and load windows drivers. That's all. Of course we can cooperate if you want. You can get our patches from HostiliX's SVN and we can get your patches from ReactOS's SVN.
Actually we're only looking for people who symphatetic our idea to make completelly new OS (somethink like modified Windows). On most forum boards where are Windows Customization sections you can see Windows with Aqua style (they're changing Windows to look like MacOS or Linux)
Ge van Geldorp wrote:
Maybe it's a cultural difference, maybe it's because we're both not native English speakers, maybe I'm just too sensitive, but.... I think your posts sound a bit aggressive. I'm wondering why? What did ReactOS do to deserve that tone/attitude?
- We'll not help you by commiting patches to your SVN or
submiting to you diffs.
You do realize that this will also mean that, as time goes by, it will become harder and harder for you to merge in bugfixes from ReactOS into
your
project, since the source bases will drift apart?
Gé van Geldorp.
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Rafal Kupiec wrote:
Maybe my posts sounds a bit aggressive, but I didn't want to write aggressive posts. Maybe it's that, becouse English isn't my strong side? I'm not attacking ReactOS. I only write about us project. Maybe is here someone, who wants to help us make HostiliX really good OS?
I do unterstand your intend. For my taste there's too much cloning. At least on UI where it can be avoided. I also think that MS did it one way and there are tens of other ways to do it better. On API side, there is for now no way of doing our own.
BUT. Thinking similar to you, this is not the right time, yet. ReactOS has still a long way to grow until it really makes sense to split up a project. Think of this: Removing Explorer 20k dlls and other apps is just one click away. But making the core-DLLs, subsystems and kernel run well and compatible - that's still a lot of work.
I just want to point out the fact that the taskmgr is not buggy. If you take the tashmgr from ROS and run it on windows it looks perfect and works perfect! So, there is no bug with taskmgr it is with the api's and other parts of the subsystem which is what the dev said they were working on.
Brandon
Rafal Kupiec wrote:
We're going to follow Windows arch, becouse Windows isn't really bad OS, It only often hangs up. Making HostiliX we want to do new OS that will be able to run Windows Applications and drivers. Why? There's a lot of great programs and I think the most drivers for this OS (eg. there's no drovers for Canon i560 pronter for Linux). All hardware manufacturers do drivers for Windows, so we want to HostiliX be able to support them.
Why we don't help ReactOS to make it better? We hate your policy. You want to do Windows NT clone, so must you do for. example explorer? Cannot you do any other application? A few days ago I asked on ReactOS forum why your Task Manager looks buggy? e7 answered me: "Because ReactOS is still a alpha version (0.3svn), and the developers have other things todo (extend API, let applications and drivers work...)" It's your policy, that I don't understand. Why are you doing new think incompletelly? You want to do all at the same time! But we want to do less than you but better. We'll not help you, becouse we don't want to repair your bugs(eg. taskmgr). Why taskmgr is buggy? Becouse someone who developed it stoped working on it and I think start working on somethink else. I personally don't do all system ingredients. I do only one thing.
Ge van Geldorp wrote:
From: Rafal Kupiec
I don't understand yours policy. Maybe HostiliX is compatible with Windows and based on ReactOS, but we don't want to do Windows NT clone, that ReactOS is. HostiliX will only support for Windows apps and drivers. It will also have its' own subsystem.
Ok, you don't want to clone MS Windows, but it's totally unclear to me what you do want to do then. Doesn't supporting Windows apps and drivers kind of imply that you're going to follow the Windows architecture? What features will HostiliX have besides the support for Windows apps and drivers?
Writing your own subsystem is something you could do inside the ReactOS project.
Gé van Geldorp.
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2005/6/4, Brandon Turner turnerb7@msu.edu:
I just want to point out the fact that the taskmgr is not buggy. If you take the tashmgr from ROS and run it on windows it looks perfect and works perfect! So, there is no bug with taskmgr it is with the api's and other parts of the subsystem which is what the dev said they were working on.
To be fair: Taskmanager is currently not bug free and not yet finished. I just did a quick look at it and found a hand full of problems: (and think this are not all still existing)
- On the "Performance" register page there are visible some ugly window frames in the lower part of the window, that should not be there. - When resizing task manager, the performance graphs are not adjusted. - There is missing the sort functionality in the "Processes" register page. - It crashed on MS Windows after launching some another program. (not yet reproducable)
Regards,
Martin
Very interesting. Why ReactOS Developers didn't know this bugs and developers come to blows that they have reason? :P It's cause why don't we want to develop ReactOS.
Martin Fuchs wrote:
2005/6/4, Brandon Turner turnerb7@msu.edu:
I just want to point out the fact that the taskmgr is not buggy. If you take the tashmgr from ROS and run it on windows it looks perfect and works perfect! So, there is no bug with taskmgr it is with the api's and other parts of the subsystem which is what the dev said they were working on.
To be fair: Taskmanager is currently not bug free and not yet finished. I just did a quick look at it and found a hand full of problems: (and think this are not all still existing)
- On the "Performance" register page there are visible some ugly
window frames in the lower part of the window, that should not be there.
- When resizing task manager, the performance graphs are not adjusted.
- There is missing the sort functionality in the "Processes" register page.
- It crashed on MS Windows after launching some another program. (not
yet reproducable)
Regards,
Martin
Rafal Kupiec wrote:
Hi... I'm from BetaComp Team and I with all team members are making new operating system that will be compatible with Windows NT. It will also have Posix and its own sybsystems. It's based on knowed for most people project named ReactOS and our previously project named WinuxOS.
Was WinuxOS the nice copy of W2k with polish translation?
- Hartmut
WinuxOS wasn't nice copy of Windows 2000 with polish translation. It was somethink like ReactOS today. It was written by polish coders, so it had (only) polish translation.
Hartmut Birr wrote:
Rafal Kupiec wrote:
Hi... I'm from BetaComp Team and I with all team members are making new operating system that will be compatible with Windows NT. It will also have Posix and its own sybsystems. It's based on knowed for most people project named ReactOS and our previously project named WinuxOS.
Was WinuxOS the nice copy of W2k with polish translation?
- Hartmut
Rafal Kupiec wrote:
WinuxOS wasn't nice copy of Windows 2000 with polish translation. It was somethink like ReactOS today. It was written by polish coders, so it had (only) polish translation.
Hi,
I've compared scsiport.sys from WinuxOS (from sourceforge) and Windows 2000 with FileAlyzer. All sections except the .rsrc and .rdata section have the same checksum. Your scsiport.sys is a copy from Windows 2000! Look at the attached screen shots.
- Hartmut
Hi,
no comment from Rafal Kupiec to my mail, but now the files are removed from sourceforge.
- Hartmut
WinuxOS wasn't nice copy of Windows 2000 with polish translation. It was somethink like ReactOS today. It was written by polish coders, so it had (only) polish translation.
Hi,
I've compared scsiport.sys from WinuxOS (from sourceforge) and Windows 2000 with FileAlyzer. All sections except the .rsrc and .rdata section have the same checksum. Your scsiport.sys is a copy from Windows 2000! Look at the attached screen shots.
- Hartmut
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