Re: [ros-dev] Ros-dev Digest, Vol 165, Issue 3

[John Duncan]

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> Re: "Note: LibreOffice 5.4 will be the last codeline
> tosupport Windows XP or Vista" (Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo)
> Re: "Note: LibreOffice 5.4 will be the last codeline
> tosupport Windows XP or Vista" (Erkin Alp Güney)
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 6 May 2018 01:02:53 +0200
> From: Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo [e-mail]
> To: ReactOS Development List [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: [ros-dev] "Note: LibreOffice 5.4 will be the last
>         codeline tosupport Windows XP or Vista"
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> as an alternative, Apache OpenOffice still supports NT5
>
> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 12:38 AM, David Quintana (gigaherz) <
> [e-mail]> wrote:
> > No need to panick, they themselves link to this as an archive of old
> > versions: https://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/
>
> libreoffice/old/
> > So even if it's gone from their own site, it should remain there.
> >
> > On 6 May 2018 at 00:30, Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo <
>
> [e-mail]>
> > wrote:
> > > hello again guys,
> > >
> > > What if we get latest NT5 libreoffice version (5.4.6 as of now, and
> > > 5.4.7-rc1 is out) just for testing purposes? i guess it will be dropped
> > > from official website, andi don´t know if it will be still available in
>
> any
> > > way......
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Michael Fritscher <
>
> [e-mail]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > is there a list which need to be done to get the basic NT6 architecture
> > > > just to get feeling how much work it is? Sadly, I'm afraid that we'll
> > > > need a proper NT6 architecture to get modern drivers running, won't we?
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Michael Fritscher
> > > >
> > > > On 30.06.2017 11:46, Ged Murphy wrote:
> > > > > That’s what’s currently being worked on.
> > > > >
> > > > > The kernel still closely follows the NT5.2 architecture, but user
>
> mode
> > > > will have NT6+ compatibility shims to allow modern applications to run
> > > > correctly.
> > > > > From: Ros-dev [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of
> > > >
> > > > [e-mail]
> > > > > Sent: 30 June 2017 05:47
> > > > > To: ReactOS Development List [e-mail]
> > > > > Subject: Re: [ros-dev] "Note: LibreOffice 5.4 will be the last
> > > >
> > > > codeline tosupport Windows XP or Vista"
> > > > > I think it’s no neccesary to implement NT6, only to avoid the
> > > >
> > > > compatibility tests to NT6 and implement only the characteristics that
>
> the
> > > > most of the programs uses.
> > > > > Best regards
> > > > >
> > > > > Antonio J. Arrieta Cuartero
> > > > >
> > > > > Enviado desde mi Lumia 635 con Windows 10 Mobile
> > > > >
> > > > > De: Riccardo Paolo Bestetti mailto:[e-mail]
> > > > > Enviado: jueves, 29 de junio de 2017 22:11
> > > > > Para: ReactOS Development List mailto:[e-mail]
> > > > > Asunto: Re: [ros-dev] "Note: LibreOffice 5.4 will be the last
>
> codeline
> > > > tosupport Windows XP or Vista"
> > > > > Hello Colin,
> > > > >
> > > > > As this definitely wasn't the predominant thinking the last time this
> > > >
> > > > same discussion took place, Hermès' email scared me a bit. Thank you so
> > > > much for clarifying.
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Riccardo Paolo Bestetti
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Ros-dev [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of
>
> Colin
> > > > Finck
> > > > > Sent: giovedì 29 giugno 2017 20:00
> > > > >
> > > > > To: [e-mail] mailto:[e-mail]
> > > > >
> > > > > Subject: Re: [ros-dev] "Note: LibreOffice 5.4 will be the last
> > > >
> > > > codeline to support Windows XP or Vista"
> > > > > Rest assured, we know that ReactOS won't be of much use if we stay
> > > >
> > > > NT5-only. Work is underway to provide a seamless support of NT6
> > > > applications on top of the existing codebase.
> > > > > Also the majority of developers should be using an NT6 platform
> > > >
> > > > themselves, so they certainly aim for support for NT6 applications.
> > > > > Finally, applications compiled by modern versions of Visual Studio
>
> are
> > > > NT6-only by default, so supporting this platform is unavoidable.
> > > > > Just my two cents, as the previous replies could lead you to believe
> > > >
> > > > we're failing the reality check.
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > >
> > > > > Colin
> > > > >
> > > > > Am 29.06.2017 um 18:54 schrieb Riccardo Paolo Bestetti:
> > > > > > I’m just gonna snap in for my yearly IT guy NT6 rant: this mindset
>
> is
> > > > > > going to kill the project by making it useless whenever it reaches a
> > > > > > usable state.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Windows XP/Server 2003 use is **already** marginal as of today, and
> > > > > > it’s only gonna get “worse” as more and more networks get infected
>
> by
> > > > > > ransomware and institutions all over the world wake up and update
> > > >
> > > > (and
> > > > > > as time passes of course). It’s not a matter of “fancy”, it is a
> > > > > > matter of what people use on their computers. With that argument you
> > > > > > may as well advocate for DOS.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please don’t be offended, as always this is only intended as a
> > > >
> > > > reality
> > > > > > check.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Riccardo Paolo Bestetti
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *From:*Ros-dev [mailto:[e-mail]] *On Behalf Of
> > > > > > *Hermès BÉLUSCA-MAÏTO
> > > > > > *Sent:* giovedì 29 giugno 2017 16:09
> > > > > > *To:* 'ReactOS Development List' <[e-mail] <mailto:
> > > >
> > > > [e-mail]> >
> > > > > > *Subject:* Re: [ros-dev] "Note: LibreOffice 5.4 will be the last
> > > > > > codeline to support Windows XP or Vista"
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I’m wondering for which useless / fancy features they need Windows
>
> 7+
> > > > > > support only….
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > H.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *De :*Ros-dev [mailto:[e-mail]] *De la part de*
> > > > > > Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo *Envoyé :* jeudi 29 juin 2017 15:48
> > > >
> > > > *À
> > > > > > :* ReactOS Development List *Objet :* [ros-dev] "Note: LibreOffice
> > > >
> > > > 5.4
> > > > > > will be the last codeline to support Windows XP or Vista"
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/5.4.0/RC1
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > FYI
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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Воскресенье,  6 мая 2018, 20:20 +03:00 от John Duncan [e-mail]:
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> >   1. Re: "Note: LibreOffice 5.4 will be the last codeline
> >      tosupport Windows XP or Vista" (Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo)
> >   2. Re: "Note: LibreOffice 5.4 will be the last codeline
> >      tosupport Windows XP or Vista" (Erkin Alp Güney)
> >
> >
> >------------------------------ ------------------------------ ----------
> >
> >Message: 1
> >Date: Sun, 6 May 2018 01:02:53 +0200
> >From: Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo < [e-mail] >
> >To: ReactOS Development List < [e-mail] >
> >Subject: Re: [ros-dev] "Note: LibreOffice 5.4 will be the last
> >        codeline tosupport Windows XP or Vista"
> >Message-ID:
> >        < CAAHf8rcC_PhT6OHmf- frhuB6tarj6SAj3un8AipR48hChEDM
> [e-mail] >
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> >as an alternative, Apache OpenOffice still supports NT5
> >
> >On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 12:38 AM, David Quintana (gigaherz) <
> >[e-mail] > wrote:
> >
> >> No need to panick, they themselves link to this as an archive of old
> >> versions:  https://downloadarchive. documentfoundation.org/
> libreoffice/old/
> >> So even if it's gone from their own site, it should remain there.
> >>
> >> On 6 May 2018 at 00:30, Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo < [e-mail]
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> hello again guys,
> >>>
> >>> What if we get latest NT5 libreoffice version (5.4.6 as of now, and
> >>> 5.4.7-rc1 is out) just for testing purposes? i guess it will be dropped
> >>> from official website, andi don´t know if it will be still available in
> any
> >>> way......
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Michael Fritscher < [e-mail]
> >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> is there a list which need to be done to get the basic NT6 architecture
> >>>> just to get feeling how much work it is? Sadly, I'm afraid that we'll
> >>>> need a proper NT6 architecture to get modern drivers running, won't we?
> >>>>
> >>>> Best regards,
> >>>> Michael Fritscher
> >>>>
> >>>> On 30.06.2017 11:46, Ged Murphy wrote:
> >>>> > That’s what’s currently being worked on.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > The kernel still closely follows the NT5.2 architecture, but user mode
> >>>> will have NT6+ compatibility shims to allow modern applications to run
> >>>> correctly.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > From: Ros-dev [mailto: ros-dev-bounces@ reactos.org ] On Behalf Of
> >>>>  [e-mail]
> >>>> > Sent: 30 June 2017 05:47
> >>>> > To: ReactOS Development List < [e-mail] >
> >>>> > Subject: Re: [ros-dev] "Note: LibreOffice 5.4 will be the last
> >>>> codeline tosupport Windows XP or Vista"
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I think it’s no neccesary to implement NT6, only to avoid the
> >>>> compatibility tests to NT6 and implement only the characteristics that
> the
> >>>> most of the programs uses.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Best regards
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Antonio J. Arrieta Cuartero
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Enviado desde mi Lumia 635 con Windows 10 Mobile
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > De: Riccardo Paolo Bestetti <mailto: riccardo.kyogre@live. it >
> >>>> > Enviado: jueves, 29 de junio de 2017 22:11
> >>>> > Para: ReactOS Development List <mailto: [e-mail] >
> >>>> > Asunto: Re: [ros-dev] "Note: LibreOffice 5.4 will be the last codeline
> >>>> tosupport Windows XP or Vista"
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Hello Colin,
> >>>> >
> >>>> > As this definitely wasn't the predominant thinking the last time this
> >>>> same discussion took place, Hermès' email scared me a bit. Thank you so
> >>>> much for clarifying.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Best regards,
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Riccardo Paolo Bestetti
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > -----Original Message-----
> >>>> >
> >>>> > From: Ros-dev [mailto: ros-dev-bounces@ reactos.org ] On Behalf Of
> Colin
> >>>> Finck
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Sent: giovedì 29 giugno 2017 20:00
> >>>> >
> >>>> > To:  [e-mail] <mailto: [e-mail] >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Subject: Re: [ros-dev] "Note: LibreOffice 5.4 will be the last
> >>>> codeline to support Windows XP or Vista"
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Rest assured, we know that ReactOS won't be of much use if we stay
> >>>> NT5-only. Work is underway to provide a seamless support of NT6
> >>>> applications on top of the existing codebase.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Also the majority of developers should be using an NT6 platform
> >>>> themselves, so they certainly aim for support for NT6 applications.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Finally, applications compiled by modern versions of Visual Studio are
> >>>> NT6-only by default, so supporting this platform is unavoidable.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Just my two cents, as the previous replies could lead you to believe
> >>>> we're failing the reality check.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Cheers,
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Colin
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Am 29.06.2017 um 18:54 schrieb Riccardo Paolo Bestetti:
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> I’m just gonna snap in for my yearly IT guy NT6 rant: this mindset is
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> going to kill the project by making it useless whenever it reaches a
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> usable state.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> Windows XP/Server 2003 use is **already** marginal as of today, and
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> it’s only gonna get “worse” as more and more networks get infected by
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> ransomware and institutions all over the world wake up and update
> >>>> (and
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> as time passes of course). It’s not a matter of “fancy”, it is a
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> matter of what people use on their computers. With that argument you
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> may as well advocate for DOS.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> Please don’t be offended, as always this is only intended as a
> >>>> reality
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> check.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> Best regards,
> >>>> >
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> Riccardo Paolo Bestetti
> >>>> >
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> *From:*Ros-dev [mailto: ros-dev-bounces@ reactos.org ] *On Behalf Of
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> *Hermès BÉLUSCA-MAÏTO
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> *Sent:* giovedì 29 giugno 2017 16:09
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> *To:* 'ReactOS Development List' < [e-mail] mailto:
 >>>>  [e-mail] > >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> *Subject:* Re: [ros-dev] "Note: LibreOffice 5.4 will be the last
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> codeline to support Windows XP or Vista"
> >>>> >
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> I’m wondering for which useless / fancy features they need Windows 7+
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> support only….
> >>>> >
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> H.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> *De :*Ros-dev [mailto: ros-dev-bounces@ reactos.org ] *De la part de*
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo *Envoyé :* jeudi 29 juin 2017 15:48
> >>>> *À
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> :* ReactOS Development List *Objet :* [ros-dev] "Note: LibreOffice
> >>>> 5.4
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> will be the last codeline to support Windows XP or Vista"
> >>>> >
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >>  https://wiki. documentfoundation.org/ Releases/5.4.0/RC1
> >>>> >
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> FYI
> >>>> >
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> ______________________________ _________________
> >>>> >
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