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6 May 2018

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    1. Re: "Note: LibreOffice 5.4 will be the last codeline
       tosupport Windows XP or Vista" (Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo)
    2. Re: "Note: LibreOffice 5.4 will be the last codeline
       tosupport Windows XP or Vista" (Erkin Alp Güney)

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 Date: Sun, 6 May 2018 01:02:53 +0200
 From: Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo &lt;elhoir(a)gmail.com&gt;
 To: ReactOS Development List &lt;ros-dev(a)reactos.org&gt;
 Subject: Re: [ros-dev] "Note: LibreOffice 5.4 will be the last
         codeline tosupport Windows XP or Vista"
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 as an alternative, Apache OpenOffice still supports NT5

 On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 12:38 AM, David Quintana (gigaherz) <
 gigaherz(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

  No need to panick, they themselves link to this
as an archive of old
 versions: https://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/  libreoffice/old/
  So even if it's gone from their own site, it
should remain there.

 On 6 May 2018 at 00:30, Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo <  elhoir(a)gmail.com&gt;
  wrote:

> hello again guys,
>
> What if we get latest NT5 libreoffice version (5.4.6 as of now, and
> 5.4.7-rc1 is out) just for testing purposes? i guess it will be dropped
> from official website, andi don´t know if it will be still available in  any
 > way......
>
> On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Michael Fritscher < 
michael(a)fritscher.net&gt;
 > wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> is there a list which need to be done to get the basic NT6 architecture
>> just to get feeling how much work it is? Sadly, I'm afraid that we'll
>> need a proper NT6 architecture to get modern drivers running, won't we?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Michael Fritscher
>>
>> On 30.06.2017 11:46, Ged Murphy wrote:
>> > That’s what’s currently being worked on.
>> >
>> > The kernel still closely follows the NT5.2 architecture, but user 
mode
 >> will have NT6+ compatibility shims to
allow modern applications to run
>> correctly.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: Ros-dev [mailto:ros-dev-bounces@reactos.org] On Behalf Of
>> ajaczgz(a)yahoo.es
>> > Sent: 30 June 2017 05:47
>> > To: ReactOS Development List &lt;ros-dev(a)reactos.org&gt;
>> > Subject: Re: [ros-dev] "Note: LibreOffice 5.4 will be the last
>> codeline tosupport Windows XP or Vista"
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I think it’s no neccesary to implement NT6, only to avoid the
>> compatibility tests to NT6 and implement only the characteristics that 
the
 >> most of the programs uses.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Best regards
>> >
>> > Antonio J. Arrieta Cuartero
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Enviado desde mi Lumia 635 con Windows 10 Mobile
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > De: Riccardo Paolo Bestetti <mailto:riccardo.kyogre@live.it>
>> > Enviado: jueves, 29 de junio de 2017 22:11
>> > Para: ReactOS Development List <mailto:ros-dev@reactos.org>
>> > Asunto: Re: [ros-dev] "Note: LibreOffice 5.4 will be the last 
codeline
 >> tosupport Windows XP or Vista"
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Hello Colin,
>> >
>> > As this definitely wasn't the predominant thinking the last time this
>> same discussion took place, Hermès' email scared me a bit. Thank you so
>> much for clarifying.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> >
>> > Riccardo Paolo Bestetti
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> >
>> > From: Ros-dev [mailto:ros-dev-bounces@reactos.org] On Behalf Of 
Colin
 >> Finck
>> >
>> > Sent: giovedì 29 giugno 2017 20:00
>> >
>> > To: ros-dev(a)reactos.org <mailto:ros-dev@reactos.org>
>> >
>> > Subject: Re: [ros-dev] "Note: LibreOffice 5.4 will be the last
>> codeline to support Windows XP or Vista"
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Rest assured, we know that ReactOS won't be of much use if we stay
>> NT5-only. Work is underway to provide a seamless support of NT6
>> applications on top of the existing codebase.
>> >
>> > Also the majority of developers should be using an NT6 platform
>> themselves, so they certainly aim for support for NT6 applications.
>> >
>> > Finally, applications compiled by modern versions of Visual Studio 
are
 >> NT6-only by default, so supporting this
platform is unavoidable.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Just my two cents, as the previous replies could lead you to believe
>> we're failing the reality check.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Colin
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Am 29.06.2017 um 18:54 schrieb Riccardo Paolo Bestetti:
>> >
>> >> I’m just gonna snap in for my yearly IT guy NT6 rant: this mindset
 is
 >> >
>> >> going to kill the project by making it useless whenever it reaches a
>> >
>> >> usable state.
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >> Windows XP/Server 2003 use is **already** marginal as of today, and
>> >
>> >> it’s only gonna get “worse” as more and more networks get infected
 by
 >> >
>> >> ransomware and institutions all over the world wake up and update
>> (and
>> >
>> >> as time passes of course). It’s not a matter of “fancy”, it is a
>> >
>> >> matter of what people use on their computers. With that argument you
>> >
>> >> may as well advocate for DOS.
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >> Please don’t be offended, as always this is only intended as a
>> reality
>> >
>> >> check.
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >> Best regards,
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >> Riccardo Paolo Bestetti
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >> *From:*Ros-dev [mailto:ros-dev-bounces@reactos.org] *On Behalf Of
>> >
>> >> *Hermès BÉLUSCA-MAÏTO
>> >
>> >> *Sent:* giovedì 29 giugno 2017 16:09
>> >
>> >> *To:* 'ReactOS Development List' &lt;ros-dev(a)reactos.org
<mailto:
>> ros-dev(a)reactos.org&gt; >
>> >
>> >> *Subject:* Re: [ros-dev] "Note: LibreOffice 5.4 will be the last
>> >
>> >> codeline to support Windows XP or Vista"
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >> I’m wondering for which useless / fancy features they need Windows
 7+
    >
 >> support only….
 >
 >>
 >
 >>
 >
 >>
 >
 >> H.
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 >
 >>
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 >>
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 >>
 >
 >> *De :*Ros-dev [mailto:ros-dev-bounces@reactos.org] *De la part de*
 >
 >> Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo *Envoyé :* jeudi 29 juin 2017 15:48
 *À
 >
 >> :* ReactOS Development List *Objet :* [ros-dev] "Note: LibreOffice
 5.4
 >
 >> will be the last codeline to support Windows XP or Vista"
 >
 >>
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 >>
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 >>
 >
 >> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/5.4.0/RC1
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 >> FYI
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