Feature Request

[Rick Langschultz]

XML is actively becoming part of technology and programming. Every  
major development company has embraced some form of XML in one  
product or another. I was wondering if ReactOS would be interested in  
developing some form of application to handle XML-based applications.

These applications would be written in XML and bundled in a ZIP file  
much like the ODF formats that OpenOffice 2.0 is using. XML  
applications would be allowed to communicate with some processing  
application protocols and functions. I think something like this  
would be a great feature that would quickly allow novice programmers  
to quickly develop applications for ReactOS and share them on the  
website. Think of it, no compilation time. That would be great.

I will try to write a proof-of-concept application for Windows XP and  
2000 for trial and testing.

My main question is: If something like this is wanted/needed/or if  
ReactOS members finds interesting would ReactOS think about  
supporting it in the first production release. Which is still far  
off, I would imagine.

[David Johnson]

I think keeping with industry standards and trends would be important.
ReactOS should have some form of XML standard. I also think ROS should have
OpenDOC implimented in the core text prosessing aplications. i.e. winepad.
wordpad clone and more.

On 12/5/05, Rick Langschultz <rlangschultz(a)cox.net> wrote:
>  
>  XML is actively becoming part of technology and programming. Every
>  major development company has embraced some form of XML in one
>  product or another. I was wondering if ReactOS would be interested in
>  developing some form of application to handle XML-based applications.
>
>  These applications would be written in XML and bundled in a ZIP file
>  much like the ODF formats that OpenOffice 2.0 is using. XML
>  applications would be allowed to communicate with some processing
>  application protocols and functions. I think something like this
>  would be a great feature that would quickly allow novice programmers
>  to quickly develop applications for ReactOS and share them on the
>  website. Think of it, no compilation time. That would be great.
>
>  I will try to write a proof-of-concept application for Windows XP and
>  2000 for trial and testing.
>
>  My main question is: If something like this is wanted/needed/or if
>  ReactOS members finds interesting would ReactOS think about
>  supporting it in the first production release. Which is still far
>  off, I would imagine.
>  _______________________________________________
>  Ros-dev mailing list
>  Ros-dev(a)reactos.org
>  http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
>  


--
David Johnson
http://www.davefilms.us
Producer

[TwoTailedFox]

OpenDocument Support could be an important "Wow Factor" Idea for
0.4.0. Isn't OC XML Based?

On 12/5/05, David Johnson <davidjohnson.johnson(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>   I think keeping with industry standards and trends
> would be important.
>  ReactOS should have some form of XML standard. I also think ROS should have
>  OpenDOC implimented in the core text prosessing aplications. i.e. winepad.
>  wordpad clone and more.
>
>
>  On 12/5/05, Rick Langschultz <rlangschultz(a)cox.net> wrote:
> >   XML is actively becoming part of technology and
> > programming. Every
> >  major development company has embraced some form of XML in one
> >  product or another. I was wondering if ReactOS would be interested in
> >  developing some form of application to handle XML-based applications.
> >
> >  These applications would be written in XML and bundled in a ZIP file
> >  much like the ODF formats that OpenOffice 2.0 is using. XML
> >  applications would be allowed to communicate with some processing
> >  application protocols and functions. I think something like this
> >  would be a great feature that would quickly allow novice programmers
> >  to quickly develop applications for ReactOS and share them on the
> >  website. Think of it, no compilation time. That would be great.
> >
> >  I will try to write a proof-of-concept application for Windows XP and
> >  2000 for trial and testing.
> >
> >  My main question is: If something like this is wanted/needed/or if
> >  ReactOS members finds interesting would ReactOS think about
> >  supporting it in the first production release. Which is still far
> >  off, I would imagine.
> >  _______________________________________________
> >  Ros-dev mailing list
> >  Ros-dev(a)reactos.org
> >  http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
> >  
>
>
>  --
>  David Johnson
>  http://www.davefilms.us
>  Producer
>  _______________________________________________
>  Ros-dev mailing list
>  Ros-dev(a)reactos.org
>  http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
>
>  

--
"I had a handle on life, but then it broke"

[Rick Langschultz]

I think so, ODF is a ZIP file (with different extensions) that  
contain multiple XML files. I think putting an XML file within a zip  
or a tar.gz file would be a great way to develop a new application  
protocol stearing away from binary executables to text based  
executables. One way to do this is by maybe adding different schemas  
in the XML file to allow access to different DLLs located on the  
system side. Actions can be added to different buttons and labels by  
integrating Javascript, VBscript, C#, Python, TCL, etc, code within  
that XML file or a script folder within the ZIP file.

I will tell you this idea isn't the first experience i have had with  
this type of programming. If you check out www.bindows.net the  
concept really shines through. The power of Javascript can only go so  
far though. XML is a wonderful way to allow young developers to show  
off their programming skills. There are so many technologies that can  
be incorporated such as SVG and XMPP. Wouldn't it be cool to have a  
100% text based application that handles instant messaging. Couple  
that with something like XMLFO and there you go a PDF creator. The  
ideas are unlimited...

On Dec 5, 2005, at 11:51 AM, TwoTailedFox wrote:

>   OpenDocument Support could be an important "Wow
> Factor" Idea for
>  0.4.0. Isn't OC XML Based?
>
>  On 12/5/05, David Johnson <davidjohnson.johnson(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >   I think keeping with industry standards and
> > trends would be  
> >  important.
> >  ReactOS should have some form of XML standard. I also think ROS  
> >  should have
> >  OpenDOC implimented in the core text prosessing aplications. i.e.  
> >  winepad.
> >  wordpad clone and more.
> >
> >
> >  On 12/5/05, Rick Langschultz <rlangschultz(a)cox.net> wrote:
> > >   XML is actively becoming part of technology and
> > > programming. Every
> > >  major development company has embraced some form of XML in one
> > >  product or another. I was wondering if ReactOS would be  
> > >  interested in
> > >  developing some form of application to handle XML-based  
> > >  applications.
> > >
> > >  These applications would be written in XML and bundled in a ZIP file
> > >  much like the ODF formats that OpenOffice 2.0 is using. XML
> > >  applications would be allowed to communicate with some processing
> > >  application protocols and functions. I think something like this
> > >  would be a great feature that would quickly allow novice programmers
> > >  to quickly develop applications for ReactOS and share them on the
> > >  website. Think of it, no compilation time. That would be great.
> > >
> > >  I will try to write a proof-of-concept application for Windows XP  
> > >  and
> > >  2000 for trial and testing.
> > >
> > >  My main question is: If something like this is wanted/needed/or if
> > >  ReactOS members finds interesting would ReactOS think about
> > >  supporting it in the first production release. Which is still far
> > >  off, I would imagine.
> > >  _______________________________________________
> > >  Ros-dev mailing list
> > >  Ros-dev(a)reactos.org
> > >  http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
> > >  
> >
> >
> >  --
> >  David Johnson
> >  http://www.davefilms.us
> >  Producer
> >  _______________________________________________
> >  Ros-dev mailing list
> >  Ros-dev(a)reactos.org
> >  http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
> >
> >  
>
>  --
>  "I had a handle on life, but then it broke"
>
>  _______________________________________________
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>  Ros-dev(a)reactos.org
>  http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev

[Thomas Weidenmueller]

David Johnson wrote:
>   I think keeping with industry standards and trends
> would be important.
>  ReactOS should have some form of XML standard. I also think ROS should
>  have OpenDOC implimented in the core text prosessing aplications. i.e.
>  winepad. wordpad clone and more. 
Feel free to work on it. I think most of us have different goals at the
moment and in the near future.

- Thomas

[Radovan Skolnik]

XML as a standard for describing data structure is great - no problem with
it. What you describe sounds weird - I doubt it would be feasible for this
use and bring any advantage over existing interpreted languages. What is the
main reason for it? "Everybody's using it" doesn't seem enough to me -
i.e.
everyone's using it, let's use it too (especially when you propose to use it
for something it was not intended to). If you want to be able to put
together applications quickly I much better liked the XUL idea that was
under discussion here (but that's the GUI part). It's already here, well
developed, tested - just port it...

Just my 2 cents ;-)

-----Original Message-----
From: ros-dev-bounces(a)reactos.org [mailto:[e-mail]] On
Behalf Of Rick Langschultz
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 6:25 PM
To: ReactOS Development List
Subject: [ros-dev] Feature Request

XML is actively becoming part of technology and programming. Every major
development company has embraced some form of XML in one product or another.
I was wondering if ReactOS would be interested in developing some form of
application to handle XML-based applications.

These applications would be written in XML and bundled in a ZIP file much
like the ODF formats that OpenOffice 2.0 is using. XML applications would be
allowed to communicate with some processing application protocols and
functions. I think something like this would be a great feature that would
quickly allow novice programmers to quickly develop applications for ReactOS
and share them on the website. Think of it, no compilation time. That would
be great.

I will try to write a proof-of-concept application for Windows XP and 2000
for trial and testing.

My main question is: If something like this is wanted/needed/or if ReactOS
members finds interesting would ReactOS think about supporting it in the
first production release. Which is still far off, I would imagine.
_______________________________________________
Ros-dev mailing list
Ros-dev(a)reactos.org
http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev

[nitro2k01]

While this is a good idea, I think such a project should be created
with the whole windows-compatible market in mind, and develop MSI
support for ROS.
I'd rather see full MSI supprt ATM, to make ROS windows-compatible to
the largest extent possible.

                                         /nitro2k01

On 12/5/05, Rick Langschultz <rlangschultz(a)cox.net> wrote:
>   XML is actively becoming part of technology and
> programming. Every
>  major development company has embraced some form of XML in one
>  product or another. I was wondering if ReactOS would be interested in
>  developing some form of application to handle XML-based applications.
>
>  These applications would be written in XML and bundled in a ZIP file
>  much like the ODF formats that OpenOffice 2.0 is using. XML
>  applications would be allowed to communicate with some processing
>  application protocols and functions. I think something like this
>  would be a great feature that would quickly allow novice programmers
>  to quickly develop applications for ReactOS and share them on the
>  website. Think of it, no compilation time. That would be great.
>
>  I will try to write a proof-of-concept application for Windows XP and
>  2000 for trial and testing.
>
>  My main question is: If something like this is wanted/needed/or if
>  ReactOS members finds interesting would ReactOS think about
>  supporting it in the first production release. Which is still far
>  off, I would imagine.
>  _______________________________________________
>  Ros-dev mailing list
>  Ros-dev(a)reactos.org
>  http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
>  

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Saliga äro de som kan stava till 2k01!

[TwoTailedFox]

It's not so much MSI support, but the Installer looking for things
that arn't there.

On 12/6/05, nitro2k01 <nitro2k01(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>   While this is a good idea, I think such a project
> should be created
>  with the whole windows-compatible market in mind, and develop MSI
>  support for ROS.
>  I'd rather see full MSI supprt ATM, to make ROS windows-compatible to
>  the largest extent possible.
>
>                                           /nitro2k01
>
>  On 12/5/05, Rick Langschultz <rlangschultz(a)cox.net> wrote:
> >   XML is actively becoming part of technology and
> > programming. Every
> >  major development company has embraced some form of XML in one
> >  product or another. I was wondering if ReactOS would be interested in
> >  developing some form of application to handle XML-based applications.
> >
> >  These applications would be written in XML and bundled in a ZIP file
> >  much like the ODF formats that OpenOffice 2.0 is using. XML
> >  applications would be allowed to communicate with some processing
> >  application protocols and functions. I think something like this
> >  would be a great feature that would quickly allow novice programmers
> >  to quickly develop applications for ReactOS and share them on the
> >  website. Think of it, no compilation time. That would be great.
> >
> >  I will try to write a proof-of-concept application for Windows XP and
> >  2000 for trial and testing.
> >
> >  My main question is: If something like this is wanted/needed/or if
> >  ReactOS members finds interesting would ReactOS think about
> >  supporting it in the first production release. Which is still far
> >  off, I would imagine.
> >  _______________________________________________
> >  Ros-dev mailing list
> >  Ros-dev(a)reactos.org
> >  http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
> >  
>
>  --
>  The blog  of nitro2k01: <http://soundandcomplete.blogspot.com/>
>  Saliga äro de som kan stava till 2k01!
>
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>  http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
>  

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[KJKHyperion]

Rick Langschultz wrote:

>   XML is actively becoming part of technology and
> programming. Every  
>  major development company has embraced some form of XML in one  
>  product or another. I was wondering if ReactOS would be interested in  
>  developing some form of application to handle XML-based applications. 
I think the general consensus is "changing the world" kinds of projects 
don't belong to ReactOS. And there are better options (Sourceforge, 
Savannah, BerliOS) if all you're looking for is hosting an external 
project with no tie to ReactOS