ReactOS 0.5 Planning

[Colin Finck]

Hi all!

Planning the ReactOS 0.5 release and establishing a new roadmap was one
of the points on the agenda of yesterday's meeting. This is still an
ongoing process.

Please make up your minds about what a ReactOS 0.5 release must offer in
your opinion and write it down to https://reactos.org/wiki/0.5.0

To get a realistic roadmap, it is important that we define a responsible
person for each task. It should be the person having the most in-depth
knowledge about the status of the affected ReactOS components.
Don't worry, we won't put any pressure on you to complete the task soon.
But we need someone who can give a detailed report about the current status.

If nobody can be the responsible person for a certain task, having it
for 0.5 is not realistic and it eventually needs to be removed from the
roadmap.
But that's for later! Let's first add all points we consider important
until the end of the year. If you can already add yourself as the
responsible person, even better! :)


Cheers,

Colin

[Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo]

Before setting 0.5 goals we should finally answer the question: will be 0.5
a beta release?

El vie., 30 nov. 2018 9:30, Colin Finck <colin(a)reactos.org> escribió:

>   Hi all!
>
>  Planning the ReactOS 0.5 release and establishing a new roadmap was one
>  of the points on the agenda of yesterday's meeting. This is still an
>  ongoing process.
>
>  Please make up your minds about what a ReactOS 0.5 release must offer in
>  your opinion and write it down to https://reactos.org/wiki/0.5.0
>
>  To get a realistic roadmap, it is important that we define a responsible
>  person for each task. It should be the person having the most in-depth
>  knowledge about the status of the affected ReactOS components.
>  Don't worry, we won't put any pressure on you to complete the task soon.
>  But we need someone who can give a detailed report about the current
>  status.
>
>  If nobody can be the responsible person for a certain task, having it
>  for 0.5 is not realistic and it eventually needs to be removed from the
>  roadmap.
>  But that's for later! Let's first add all points we consider important
>  until the end of the year. If you can already add yourself as the
>  responsible person, even better! :)
>
>
>  Cheers,
>
>  Colin
>
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[Ged Murphy]

We really need to shake this idea that a 0.5 release is beta.

Beta software is close to being ready for release, which is a milestone reactos hasn’t yet
reached.

 

We shouldn’t even be considering beta until we’re close to a 1.0 release. 

0.9 could be a possible beta candidate, or perhaps even 1.0 beta, followed by a 1.0\1.1
final.

For now, we should continue to iterate minor releases and bump them when we’ve made
considerable progress since the last, perhaps with a showstopper feature to promote it
(such as USB)

I think we’re close to a stage where reactos has moved on massively since the 0.4 release,
hence this discussion.

 

All IMO of course.

Ged

 

From: Ros-dev <ros-dev-bounces(a)reactos.org> On Behalf Of Javier Agustìn Fernàndez
Arroyo
Sent: Friday, 30 November 2018 08:53
To: ReactOS Development List <ros-dev(a)reactos.org>
Subject: Re: [ros-dev] ReactOS 0.5 Planning

 

Before setting 0.5 goals we should finally answer the question: will be 0.5 a beta
release?

El vie., 30 nov. 2018 9:30, Colin Finck <colin(a)reactos.org
<mailto:[e-mail]> > escribió:

Hi all!

Planning the ReactOS 0.5 release and establishing a new roadmap was one
of the points on the agenda of yesterday's meeting. This is still an
ongoing process.

Please make up your minds about what a ReactOS 0.5 release must offer in
your opinion and write it down to https://reactos.org/wiki/0.5.0

To get a realistic roadmap, it is important that we define a responsible
person for each task. It should be the person having the most in-depth
knowledge about the status of the affected ReactOS components.
Don't worry, we won't put any pressure on you to complete the task soon.
But we need someone who can give a detailed report about the current status.

If nobody can be the responsible person for a certain task, having it
for 0.5 is not realistic and it eventually needs to be removed from the
roadmap.
But that's for later! Let's first add all points we consider important
until the end of the year. If you can already add yourself as the
responsible person, even better! :)


Cheers,

Colin

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[Dick]

Hi,
I think at least users will lose their patience and stop believing reactos 
will ever become a useful os for daily use. Even for crowdfnding(like done 
before) i think people need to invest in something real. The goal of 
reactos needs to be redefined.
I think the goal should be to become a full-functional windows 
replacement, useful for windows 10 users as well as for windows nt/2003 
users. I thinkk windows will be gone in 5-10 years, so reactos should be 
to 1.0 at least in the next 2 years to make tis project of anny sense. 
otherwise you all are just spending time to recreate the past.
best regards, dick

On Fri, 30 Nov 2018, Ged Murphy wrote:

>   
>  We really need to shake this idea that a 0.5 release is beta.
>  
>  Beta software is close to being ready for release, which is a milestone
>  reactos hasn’t yet reached.
>  
>   
>  
>  We shouldn’t even be considering beta until we’re close to a 1.0 release.
>  
>  0.9 could be a possible beta candidate, or perhaps even 1.0 beta, followed
>  by a 1.0\1.1 final.
>  
>  For now, we should continue to iterate minor releases and bump them when
>  we’ve made considerable progress since the last, perhaps with a showstopper
>  feature to promote it (such as USB)
>  
>  I think we’re close to a stage where reactos has moved on massively since
>  the 0.4 release, hence this discussion.
>  
>   
>  
>  All IMO of course.
>  
>  Ged
>  
>   
>  
>  From: Ros-dev <ros-dev-bounces(a)reactos.org> On Behalf Of Javier Agustìn
>  Fernàndez Arroyo
>  Sent: Friday, 30 November 2018 08:53
>  To: ReactOS Development List <ros-dev(a)reactos.org>
>  Subject: Re: [ros-dev] ReactOS 0.5 Planning
>  
>   
>  
>  Before setting 0.5 goals we should finally answer the question: will be 0.5
>  a beta release?
>  
>  El vie., 30 nov. 2018 9:30, Colin Finck <colin(a)reactos.org> escribió:
>
>        Hi all!
>
>        Planning the ReactOS 0.5 release and establishing a new roadmap
>        was one
>        of the points on the agenda of yesterday's meeting. This is
>        still an
>        ongoing process.
>
>        Please make up your minds about what a ReactOS 0.5 release must
>        offer in
>        your opinion and write it down to https://reactos.org/wiki/0.5.0
>
>        To get a realistic roadmap, it is important that we define a
>        responsible
>        person for each task. It should be the person having the most
>        in-depth
>        knowledge about the status of the affected ReactOS components.
>        Don't worry, we won't put any pressure on you to complete the
>        task soon.
>        But we need someone who can give a detailed report about the
>        current status.
>
>        If nobody can be the responsible person for a certain task,
>        having it
>        for 0.5 is not realistic and it eventually needs to be removed
>        from the
>        roadmap.
>        But that's for later! Let's first add all points we consider
>        important
>        until the end of the year. If you can already add yourself as
>        the
>        responsible person, even better! :)
>  
>
>        Cheers,
>
>        Colin
>
>        _______________________________________________
>        Ros-dev mailing list
>        Ros-dev(a)reactos.org
>        http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
>  
>  
>

[David Quintana (gigaherz)]

ReactOS has been around since before 2000. People have been "losing their
patience" for many years. If we can't do it faster, we can't do it faster,
it doesn't change what the project is meant to be, which is an accurate
recreation of Windows, with 100% opensource code.

On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 at 10:53, Dick <dick(a)deds.nl> wrote:

>   Hi,
>  I think at least users will lose their patience and stop believing reactos
>  will ever become a useful os for daily use. Even for crowdfnding(like done
>  before) i think people need to invest in something real. The goal of
>  reactos needs to be redefined.
>  I think the goal should be to become a full-functional windows
>  replacement, useful for windows 10 users as well as for windows nt/2003
>  users. I thinkk windows will be gone in 5-10 years, so reactos should be
>  to 1.0 at least in the next 2 years to make tis project of anny sense.
>  otherwise you all are just spending time to recreate the past.
>  best regards, dick
>
>  On Fri, 30 Nov 2018, Ged Murphy wrote:
>
> >  
> >  We really need to shake this idea that a 0.5 release is beta.
> >
> >  Beta software is close to being ready for release, which is a milestone
> >  reactos hasn’t yet reached.
> >
> >
> >
> >  We shouldn’t even be considering beta until we’re close to a 1.0 release.
> >
> >  0.9 could be a possible beta candidate, or perhaps even 1.0 beta, 
>  followed
> >   by a 1.0\1.1 final.
> >
> >  For now, we should continue to iterate minor releases and bump them when
> >  we’ve made considerable progress since the last, perhaps with a 
>  showstopper
> >   feature to promote it (such as USB)
> >
> >  I think we’re close to a stage where reactos has moved on massively since
> >  the 0.4 release, hence this discussion.
> >
> >
> >
> >  All IMO of course.
> >
> >  Ged
> >
> >
> >
> >  From: Ros-dev <ros-dev-bounces(a)reactos.org> On Behalf Of Javier Agustìn
> >  Fernàndez Arroyo
> >  Sent: Friday, 30 November 2018 08:53
> >  To: ReactOS Development List <ros-dev(a)reactos.org>
> >  Subject: Re: [ros-dev] ReactOS 0.5 Planning
> >
> >
> >
> >  Before setting 0.5 goals we should finally answer the question: will be 
>  0.5
> >   a beta release?
> >
> >  El vie., 30 nov. 2018 9:30, Colin Finck <colin(a)reactos.org> escribió:
> >
> >        Hi all!
> >
> >        Planning the ReactOS 0.5 release and establishing a new roadmap
> >        was one
> >        of the points on the agenda of yesterday's meeting. This is
> >        still an
> >        ongoing process.
> >
> >        Please make up your minds about what a ReactOS 0.5 release must
> >        offer in
> >        your opinion and write it down to https://reactos.org/wiki/0.5.0
> >
> >        To get a realistic roadmap, it is important that we define a
> >        responsible
> >        person for each task. It should be the person having the most
> >        in-depth
> >        knowledge about the status of the affected ReactOS components.
> >        Don't worry, we won't put any pressure on you to complete the
> >        task soon.
> >        But we need someone who can give a detailed report about the
> >        current status.
> >
> >        If nobody can be the responsible person for a certain task,
> >        having it
> >        for 0.5 is not realistic and it eventually needs to be removed
> >        from the
> >        roadmap.
> >        But that's for later! Let's first add all points we consider
> >        important
> >        until the end of the year. If you can already add yourself as
> >        the
> >        responsible person, even better! :)
> >
> >
> >        Cheers,
> >
> >        Colin
> >
> >        _______________________________________________
> >        Ros-dev mailing list
> >        Ros-dev(a)reactos.org
> >        http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
> >
> >
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