LinuxWorld report

[Ge van Geldorp]

Just a quick report from LinuxWorld London. We've just finished
the first day of the exhibition, lots of interest. What surprised
me a bit was that the general awareness about the project was
somewhat lower than last year in Frankfurt. I guess that 80-90%
of the people we spoke last year had already heard about the
project, that percentage was a lot lower here (more around 30%).

Another pleasant surprise was the stability of the system. We ran
it on an old laptop with a few applications: Quake 1, WinZip,
IrfanView, AbiWord. On demand we showed some other apps like
regedit, notepad, task manager. The system froze one time when
a visitor played around with it, other than that no problems at
all. Not a single kernel crash. We had to Tab-K to force a kernel
check to show the BSOD to a visitor. I say let's bring out r18189
(I think...) as 0.2.8 (j/k).

People were reacting very nicely. It was nice to see them
picking up a flyer rather uninterestedly, start to read, and
then suddenly turn back to watch the demo when they realized
what the project was all about.

Ge van Geldorp.

[Jason Filby]

Hi Ge

Thanks for the report! Who else is representing ReactOS besides
yourself? In a way, it's a good thing that you're reaching so many
people that haven't heard of the project -- this means that the
conference will actually pay off in a bigger way.

Also great to hear how stable the system is; a really great testament
to our developers!

Cheers
Jason

On 10/5/05, Ge van Geldorp <gvg(a)reactos.org> wrote:
>  
>  Just a quick report from LinuxWorld London. We've just finished
>  the first day of the exhibition, lots of interest. What surprised
>  me a bit was that the general awareness about the project was
>  somewhat lower than last year in Frankfurt. I guess that 80-90%
>  of the people we spoke last year had already heard about the
>  project, that percentage was a lot lower here (more around 30%).
>
>  Another pleasant surprise was the stability of the system. We ran
>  it on an old laptop with a few applications: Quake 1, WinZip,
>  IrfanView, AbiWord. On demand we showed some other apps like
>  regedit, notepad, task manager. The system froze one time when
>  a visitor played around with it, other than that no problems at
>  all. Not a single kernel crash. We had to Tab-K to force a kernel
>  check to show the BSOD to a visitor. I say let's bring out r18189
>  (I think...) as 0.2.8 (j/k).
>
>  People were reacting very nicely. It was nice to see them
>  picking up a flyer rather uninterestedly, start to read, and
>  then suddenly turn back to watch the demo when they realized
>  what the project was all about.
>
>  Ge van Geldorp.
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[Ged]

Jason Filby wrote:
>   Hi Ge
>
>  Thanks for the report! Who else is representing ReactOS besides
>  yourself? In a way, it's a good thing that you're reaching so many
>  people that haven't heard of the project -- this means that the
>  conference will actually pay off in a bigger way.
>
>  Also great to hear how stable the system is; a really great testament
>  to our developers!
>
>  Cheers
>  Jason
>     
Hi Jason,
It was Ge and myself who were representing the project in London.
The second day went just as well as the first, and we now have some 
_VERY_ exciting news.

However, I'll wait until Ge is back before anything is mentioned on the 
mail list  :)

Regards,
Ged.

[WaxDragon]

>   Not a single kernel crash. We had to Tab-K to force a
> kernel
>  check to show the BSOD to a visitor. I say let's bring out r18189
>  (I think...) as 0.2.8 (j/k). 
That's wonderful to hear!  Well, if we follow the general 3 month per
release "rule" we sometimes use, we will be due for a release in
another month.  I would like to fork this one early if possible. ;0)

>   People were reacting very nicely. It was nice to see
> them
>  picking up a flyer rather uninterestedly, start to read, and
>  then suddenly turn back to watch the demo when they realized
>  what the project was all about.
>  
Awesome!

WD

--
<arty> don't question it ... it's clearly an optimization

[Robert Köpferl]

New release and me going away for a long voyage.

Thus said.
Last month, I had spare internet access, but now I am back in my 
hometown Munich (SYSTEMS approaching) with plenty of inet again.

However I'm gogin on a big voyage at 11.11.2005 so I *can* make another 
relase (maybe the mentioned 0.2.8) but after ^ I'm not capable to do any 
further releases for a unkonwn period. Or, at least I'd experience too 
big problems. Thus I would like to find a new release manager to replace 
mine -- at least temproary. ( :-/ )
Maybe this 028-release is a good example to teach one.
Anyone interested?

And: I still intend to improve and check-in a script to more-less 
automate the release process. Mine is currently a dangerous mix of 
win32-paths and bash scripting. I look forward to rewrite that in a real 
script language. I for my part like ruby, but you're welcome to convince 
me to use perl or python or merd or pike or brainfuck or whitespace or...

WaxDragon wrote:
> >  Not a single
> > kernel crash. We had to Tab-K to force a kernel
> > check to show the BSOD to a visitor. I say let's bring out r18189
> > (I think...) as 0.2.8 (j/k). 
>  
>  
>  That's wonderful to hear!  Well, if we follow the general 3 month per
>  release "rule" we sometimes use, we will be due for a release in
>  another month.  I would like to fork this one early if possible. ;0)
>  
>  
> >  People were reacting very nicely. It was nice to
> > see them
> > picking up a flyer rather uninterestedly, start to read, and
> > then suddenly turn back to watch the demo when they realized
> > what the project was all about.
> >  
>  
>  
>  Awesome!
>  
>  WD
>  
>  --
>  <arty> don't question it ... it's clearly an optimization
>  
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[Casper Hornstrup]

>   And: I still intend to improve and check-in a script
> to more-less
>  automate the release process. Mine is currently a dangerous mix of
>  win32-paths and bash scripting. I look forward to rewrite that in a real
>  script language. I for my part like ruby, but you're welcome to convince
>  me to use perl or python or merd or pike or brainfuck or whitespace or... 
Or just stick with make/rbuild and implement "make release" ;-)
We are going to do a lot more releases in the future so why
make it more difficult than that?

Casper

[Robert Köpferl]

Mostly because I am not that common to ?make.
Can I interactively read a value?

Casper Hornstrup wrote:
> >  And: I still
> > intend to improve and check-in a script to more-less
> > automate the release process. Mine is currently a dangerous mix of
> > win32-paths and bash scripting. I look forward to rewrite that in a real
> > script language. I for my part like ruby, but you're welcome to convince
> > me to use perl or python or merd or pike or brainfuck or whitespace or... 
>  
>  
>  Or just stick with make/rbuild and implement "make release" ;-)
>  We are going to do a lot more releases in the future so why
>  make it more difficult than that?
>  
>  Casper
>  
>  
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[Casper Hornstrup]

Better put the parts that can be put in rbuild in there. This will enable
us to easier throw away GNU make one day.

Casper

>   -----Original Message-----
>  From: ros-dev-bounces(a)reactos.org [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of
> Robert Köpferl
>  Sent: 8. oktober 2005 18:15
>  To: ReactOS Development List
>  Subject: Re: [ros-dev] LinuxWorld report
>  
>  Mostly because I am not that common to ?make.
>  Can I interactively read a value?
>  
>  Casper Hornstrup wrote:
>  >>And: I still intend to improve and check-in a script to more-less
>  >>automate the release process. Mine is currently a dangerous mix of
>  >>win32-paths and bash scripting. I look forward to rewrite that in a real
>  >>script language. I for my part like ruby, but you're welcome to convince
>  >>me to use perl or python or merd or pike or brainfuck or whitespace or...
>  >
>  >
>  > Or just stick with make/rbuild and implement "make release" ;-)
>  > We are going to do a lot more releases in the future so why
>  > make it more difficult than that?
>  >
>  > Casper

[K McI]

Ge van Düsseldorf wrote:
>   People were reacting very nicely. It was nice to see
> them
>  picking up a flyer rather uninterestedly, start to read, and
>  then suddenly turn back to watch the demo when they realized
>  what the project was all about. 
That's what you said last time...

           -uQ

[Ge van Geldorp]

>   From: K McI
>  
>  Ge van Düsseldorf wrote:
> >   People were reacting very nicely. It was nice to
> > see them 
> >  picking up a flyer rather uninterestedly, start to read,
> >  and then suddenly turn back to watch the demo when they
> >  realized what the project was all about. 
>  
>  That's what you said last time... 
Uhmm, I probably really mean it then :-)

[Thomas Weidenmueller]

K McI wrote:
>   Ge van Düsseldorf wrote: 
Hm... can anyone explain that to me? ;)

- Thomas

[K McI]

Thomas Weissmuller's wrote:
>   K McI wrote:
> >   Ge van Düsseldorf wrote: 
>  
>  Hm... can anyone explain that to me? ;) 
Thunderbird 1.5b1's spell chequer, most likely. I never touched that 
line personally...

        -uQ