Monthly meeting - skipping another meeting this month

[Aleksey Bragin]

Hello,
we just had a monthly meeting in the beginning of January, so I don't 
see much of a reason to do another one at our usual date (and there are 
no urgent questions required for decision).

Next meeting is going to happen in the end of February as scheduled.

WBR,
Aleksey.

[Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo]

"and there are no urgent questions required for decision"

well... there are several regressions between 0.3.13 and 0.3.14-RC ....

On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Aleksey Bragin <aleksey(a)reactos.org> wrote:

>   Hello,
>  we just had a monthly meeting in the beginning of January, so I don't see
>  much of a reason to do another one at our usual date (and there are no
>  urgent questions required for decision).
>
>  Next meeting is going to happen in the end of February as scheduled.
>
>  WBR,
>  Aleksey.
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[Bernd Blaauw]

Op 26-1-2012 9:50, Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo schreef:

>   well... there are several regressions between 0.3.13
> and 0.3.14-RC .... 
Is there a list somewhere of 0.3.14-RC feedback?
The forum topic only asks for testing against applications, not testing 
phase 1 (bootCD/Usetup) and phase 2 (Syssetup) stuff, obvious flaws 
(diskette icon is a CD?) and correctnes of ChangeLog ( floppy bootsector 
fixing was Cmake-only I think?).

In addition to the changelog, a list of visible end-user features would 
be nice:
* no more ugly blue boxes around desktop icons
* LAN/WLAN improvements
* Theme support
* Some other stuff I forgot

Known issues:
* you may encounter stops at phase 2 at mshtml.dll
* phase 2 for now requires more memory than phase 1 and phase 3

[Zachary Gorden]

The "user visible" change list is published at time of release.

On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Bernd Blaauw <bblaauw(a)home.nl> wrote:

>   Op 26-1-2012 9:50, Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo
> schreef:
>
>
>   well... there are several regressions between 0.3.13 and 0.3.14-RC ....
> >   
>  Is there a list somewhere of 0.3.14-RC feedback?
>  The forum topic only asks for testing against applications, not testing
>  phase 1 (bootCD/Usetup) and phase 2 (Syssetup) stuff, obvious flaws
>  (diskette icon is a CD?) and correctnes of ChangeLog ( floppy bootsector
>  fixing was Cmake-only I think?).
>
>  In addition to the changelog, a list of visible end-user features would be
>  nice:
>  * no more ugly blue boxes around desktop icons
>  * LAN/WLAN improvements
>  * Theme support
>  * Some other stuff I forgot
>
>  Known issues:
>  * you may encounter stops at phase 2 at mshtml.dll
>  * phase 2 for now requires more memory than phase 1 and phase 3
>
>
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>

[Andrew Faulds]

What about a default desktop background? :)

On 26 January 2012 18:48, Bernd Blaauw <bblaauw(a)home.nl> wrote:
>   Op 26-1-2012 9:50, Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo
> schreef:
>
>
> >   well... there are several regressions between
> > 0.3.13 and 0.3.14-RC .... 
>
>  Is there a list somewhere of 0.3.14-RC feedback?
>  The forum topic only asks for testing against applications, not testing
>  phase 1 (bootCD/Usetup) and phase 2 (Syssetup) stuff, obvious flaws
>  (diskette icon is a CD?) and correctnes of ChangeLog ( floppy bootsector
>  fixing was Cmake-only I think?).
>
>  In addition to the changelog, a list of visible end-user features would be
>  nice:
>  * no more ugly blue boxes around desktop icons
>  * LAN/WLAN improvements
>  * Theme support
>  * Some other stuff I forgot
>
>  Known issues:
>  * you may encounter stops at phase 2 at mshtml.dll
>  * phase 2 for now requires more memory than phase 1 and phase 3
>
>
>
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What about bundling a theme with the new release?

On Thu, Jan 26, 2012, at 06:54 PM, Andrew Faulds wrote:
>   What about a default desktop background? :)
>  
>  On 26 January 2012 18:48, Bernd Blaauw <bblaauw(a)home.nl> wrote:
> >   Op 26-1-2012 9:50, Javier Agustìn Fernàndez
> > Arroyo schreef:
> >
> >
> > >   well... there are several regressions between
> > > 0.3.13 and 0.3.14-RC .... 
> >
> >  Is there a list somewhere of 0.3.14-RC feedback?
> >  The forum topic only asks for testing against applications, not testing
> >  phase 1 (bootCD/Usetup) and phase 2 (Syssetup) stuff, obvious flaws
> >  (diskette icon is a CD?) and correctnes of ChangeLog ( floppy bootsector
> >  fixing was Cmake-only I think?).
> >
> >  In addition to the changelog, a list of visible end-user features would be
> >  nice:
> >  * no more ugly blue boxes around desktop icons
> >  * LAN/WLAN improvements
> >  * Theme support
> >  * Some other stuff I forgot
> >
> >  Known issues:
> >  * you may encounter stops at phase 2 at mshtml.dll
> >  * phase 2 for now requires more memory than phase 1 and phase 3
> >
> >
> >
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>  
>  
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-- 
With best regards
Caemyr

[Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo]

"* you may encounter stops at phase 2 at mshtml.dll"

hasnt this been just (hack)fixed by Alex?

"What about bundling a theme with the new release?"

IIRC there are some cool themes in the forums :)

On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:08 PM, <caemyr(a)myopera.com> wrote:

>   What about bundling a theme with the new release?
>
>  On Thu, Jan 26, 2012, at 06:54 PM, Andrew Faulds wrote:
> >   What about a default desktop background? :)
> >
> >  On 26 January 2012 18:48, Bernd Blaauw <bblaauw(a)home.nl> wrote:
> >  > Op 26-1-2012 9:50, Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo schreef:
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >> well... there are several regressions between 0.3.13 and 0.3.14-RC 
>  ....
> >   >
> >  >
> >  > Is there a list somewhere of 0.3.14-RC feedback?
> >  > The forum topic only asks for testing against applications, not testing
> >  > phase 1 (bootCD/Usetup) and phase 2 (Syssetup) stuff, obvious flaws
> >  > (diskette icon is a CD?) and correctnes of ChangeLog ( floppy 
>  bootsector
> >   > fixing was Cmake-only I think?).
> >  >
> >  > In addition to the changelog, a list of visible end-user features 
>  would be
> > >   nice:
> > >  * no more ugly blue boxes around desktop icons
> > >  * LAN/WLAN improvements
> > >  * Theme support
> > >  * Some other stuff I forgot
> > >
> > >  Known issues:
> > >  * you may encounter stops at phase 2 at mshtml.dll
> > >  * phase 2 for now requires more memory than phase 1 and phase 3
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >  http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev 
> >
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[Pierre Schweitzer]

Hi,

On 01/27/2012 10:17 AM, Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo wrote:
>   "* you may encounter stops at phase 2 at
> mshtml.dll"
>
>  hasnt this been just (hack)fixed by Alex? 
unfortunately, no.

Regards,
Pierre Schweitzer

[Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo]

interesting!

2012/2/1 Александр <art1st-tm(a)yandex.ru>

>   FreeRDP 1.0 Released
> <http://www.freerdp.com/?p=92>
>
>
>
>  http://www.freerdp.com/
>
>
>  FreeRDP is a free implementation of the Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP),
>  released under the Apache license. Enjoy the freedom of using your software
>  wherever you want, the way you want it, in a world where interoperability
>  can finally liberate your computing experience.
>
>  *FreeRDP Clients:*
>
>     - client/X11 (xfreerdp)
>        - official client
>        - RemoteApp support
>        - X11 GDI implementation
>     - client/DirectFB (dfreerdp)
>        - DirectFB support
>        - software-based GDI (libfreerdp-gdi)
>     - client/Windows (wfreerdp)
>        - Native Win32 support
>
>
>
>  *FreeRDP Servers (experimental):*
>
>     - server/X11 (xfreerdp-server)
>        - RemoteFX-only
>        - no authentication
>        - highly experimental
>        - keyboard and mouse input supported
>
>  --
>  С наилучшими пожеланиями, Александр.
>
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>

[Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo]

no idea if it would work due to the current alpha state of ReactOS...

but would be cool if they submit patches or something like that (or just,
*help*)  for FreeRDP being running in ROS !! ;)

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Александр <art1st-tm(a)yandex.ru> wrote:

>   This guys are inteterested in integration of freeRDP
> software into ReactOS
>  01.02.2012, 17:01, "Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo" <elhoir(a)gmail.com>om>:
>
>  interesting!
>
>  2012/2/1 Александр <art1st-tm(a)yandex.ru>
>
>  FreeRDP 1.0 Released <http://www.freerdp.com/?p=92>
>
>
>
>  http://www.freerdp.com/
>
>
>  FreeRDP is a free implementation of the Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP),
>  released under the Apache license. Enjoy the freedom of using your software
>  wherever you want, the way you want it, in a world where interoperability
>  can finally liberate your computing experience.
>
>  *FreeRDP Clients:*
>
>     - client/X11 (xfreerdp)
>        - official client
>        - RemoteApp support
>        - X11 GDI implementation
>     - client/DirectFB (dfreerdp)
>        - DirectFB support
>        - software-based GDI (libfreerdp-gdi)
>     - client/Windows (wfreerdp)
>        - Native Win32 support
>
>
>
>  *FreeRDP Servers (experimental):*
>
>     - server/X11 (xfreerdp-server)
>        - RemoteFX-only
>        - no authentication
>        - highly experimental
>        - keyboard and mouse input supported
>
>  --
>  С наилучшими пожеланиями, Александр.
>
>  _______________________________________________
>  Ros-dev mailing list
>  Ros-dev(a)reactos.org
>  http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
>
>
>  _______________________________________________
>  Ros-dev mailing list
>  Ros-dev(a)reactos.org
>  http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
>
>  --
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>
>  _______________________________________________
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>  http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
>

[Adam]

[this should be the correct thread for this message this time... sorry
Colin/Pierre for the mix up before!]

In addition, is the Apache license even GPL compatible? If not ReactOS
won't be able to use it.

(to be honest, I just hate GPL software which uses GPL when
unnecessary, but in cases like duplicating Windows technologies, it may
prove to be an advantage, but I would have thought Sleepycat would be
better than the horrific sham of a "free license" that is the GPL - of
course that is an opinion of mine)

On Wed, 1 Feb 2012 14:45:17 +0100
Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo <elhoir(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>   no idea if it would work due to the current alpha
> state of ReactOS...
>  
>  but would be cool if they submit patches or something like that (or
>  just, *help*)  for FreeRDP being running in ROS !! ;)
>  
>  On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Александр <art1st-tm(a)yandex.ru> wrote:
>  
>  > This guys are inteterested in integration of freeRDP software into
>  > ReactOS 01.02.2012, 17:01, "Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo"
>  > <elhoir(a)gmail.com>om>:
>  >
>  > interesting!
>  >
>  > 2012/2/1 Александр <art1st-tm(a)yandex.ru>
>  >
>  > FreeRDP 1.0 Released <http://www.freerdp.com/?p=92>
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > http://www.freerdp.com/
>  >
>  >
>  > FreeRDP is a free implementation of the Remote Desktop Protocol
>  > (RDP), released under the Apache license. Enjoy the freedom of
>  > using your software wherever you want, the way you want it, in a
>  > world where interoperability can finally liberate your computing
>  > experience.
>  >
>  > *FreeRDP Clients:*
>  >
>  >    - client/X11 (xfreerdp)
>  >       - official client
>  >       - RemoteApp support
>  >       - X11 GDI implementation
>  >    - client/DirectFB (dfreerdp)
>  >       - DirectFB support
>  >       - software-based GDI (libfreerdp-gdi)
>  >    - client/Windows (wfreerdp)
>  >       - Native Win32 support
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > *FreeRDP Servers (experimental):*
>  >
>  >    - server/X11 (xfreerdp-server)
>  >       - RemoteFX-only
>  >       - no authentication
>  >       - highly experimental
>  >       - keyboard and mouse input supported
>  >
>  > --
>  > С наилучшими пожеланиями, Александр.
>  >
>  > _______________________________________________
>  > Ros-dev mailing list
>  > Ros-dev(a)reactos.org
>  > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
>  >
>  >
>  > _______________________________________________
>  > Ros-dev mailing list
>  > Ros-dev(a)reactos.org
>  > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
>  >
>  > --
>  > С наилучшими пожеланиями, Александр.
>  >
>  > _______________________________________________
>  > Ros-dev mailing list
>  > Ros-dev(a)reactos.org
>  > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
>  >

[Zachary Gorden]

The licensing of ReactOS is not that straightforward.  We have the
core OS with its kernel, some of which is GPL v2 and some of which is
BSD, we have a lot of Wine code which is LGPL, and we have a
scattering of bundled programs and utilities under differing licenses.
 However, this is 90% irrelevant with respect to applications because
what we target is the Windows and NT APIs, which also are implemented
by Microsoft.  Applications what we might bundle that target those
APIs are not derivatives of our own work, hence it really does not
matter what license they fall under, so long as it is an open source
one that does not make our lives harder.

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Adam <geekdundee(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>   [this should be the correct thread for this message
> this time... sorry
>  Colin/Pierre for the mix up before!]
>
>  In addition, is the Apache license even GPL compatible? If not ReactOS
>  won't be able to use it.
>
>  (to be honest, I just hate GPL software which uses GPL when
>  unnecessary, but in cases like duplicating Windows technologies, it may
>  prove to be an advantage, but I would have thought Sleepycat would be
>  better than the horrific sham of a "free license" that is the GPL - of
>  course that is an opinion of mine)
>
>  On Wed, 1 Feb 2012 14:45:17 +0100
>  Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo <elhoir(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >   no idea if it would work due to the current alpha
> > state of ReactOS...
> >
> >  but would be cool if they submit patches or something like that (or
> >  just, *help*)  for FreeRDP being running in ROS !! ;)
> >
> >  On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Александр <art1st-tm(a)yandex.ru> wrote:
> >
> >  > This guys are inteterested in integration of freeRDP software into
> >  > ReactOS 01.02.2012, 17:01, "Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo"
> >  > <elhoir(a)gmail.com>om>:
> >  >
> >  > interesting!
> >  >
> >  > 2012/2/1 Александр <art1st-tm(a)yandex.ru>
> >  >
> >  > FreeRDP 1.0 Released <http://www.freerdp.com/?p=92>
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > http://www.freerdp.com/
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > FreeRDP is a free implementation of the Remote Desktop Protocol
> >  > (RDP), released under the Apache license. Enjoy the freedom of
> >  > using your software wherever you want, the way you want it, in a
> >  > world where interoperability can finally liberate your computing
> >  > experience.
> >  >
> >  > *FreeRDP Clients:*
> >  >
> >  >    - client/X11 (xfreerdp)
> >  >       - official client
> >  >       - RemoteApp support
> >  >       - X11 GDI implementation
> >  >    - client/DirectFB (dfreerdp)
> >  >       - DirectFB support
> >  >       - software-based GDI (libfreerdp-gdi)
> >  >    - client/Windows (wfreerdp)
> >  >       - Native Win32 support
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > *FreeRDP Servers (experimental):*
> >  >
> >  >    - server/X11 (xfreerdp-server)
> >  >       - RemoteFX-only
> >  >       - no authentication
> >  >       - highly experimental
> >  >       - keyboard and mouse input supported
> >  >
> >  > --
> >  > С наилучшими пожеланиями, Александр.
> >  >
> >  > _______________________________________________
> >  > Ros-dev mailing list
> >  > Ros-dev(a)reactos.org
> >  > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > _______________________________________________
> >  > Ros-dev mailing list
> >  > Ros-dev(a)reactos.org
> >  > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
> >  >
> >  > --
> >  > С наилучшими пожеланиями, Александр.
> >  >
> >  > _______________________________________________
> >  > Ros-dev mailing list
> >  > Ros-dev(a)reactos.org
> >  > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
> >  > 
>
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>  Ros-dev(a)reactos.org
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[Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo]

i would say "yes" to import it, but im not an authorized voice to say so...

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Zachary Gorden <drakekaizer666(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:

>   The licensing of ReactOS is not that straightforward. 
> We have the
>  core OS with its kernel, some of which is GPL v2 and some of which is
>  BSD, we have a lot of Wine code which is LGPL, and we have a
>  scattering of bundled programs and utilities under differing licenses.
>   However, this is 90% irrelevant with respect to applications because
>  what we target is the Windows and NT APIs, which also are implemented
>  by Microsoft.  Applications what we might bundle that target those
>  APIs are not derivatives of our own work, hence it really does not
>  matter what license they fall under, so long as it is an open source
>  one that does not make our lives harder.
>
>  On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Adam <geekdundee(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >   [this should be the correct thread for this
> > message this time... sorry
> >  Colin/Pierre for the mix up before!]
> >
> >  In addition, is the Apache license even GPL compatible? If not ReactOS
> >  won't be able to use it.
> >
> >  (to be honest, I just hate GPL software which uses GPL when
> >  unnecessary, but in cases like duplicating Windows technologies, it may
> >  prove to be an advantage, but I would have thought Sleepycat would be
> >  better than the horrific sham of a "free license" that is the GPL - of
> >  course that is an opinion of mine)
> >
> >  On Wed, 1 Feb 2012 14:45:17 +0100
> >  Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo <elhoir(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >   no idea if it would work due to the current alpha
> > > state of ReactOS...
> > >
> > >  but would be cool if they submit patches or something like that (or
> > >  just, *help*)  for FreeRDP being running in ROS !! ;)
> > >
> > >  On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Александр <art1st-tm(a)yandex.ru> wrote:
> > >
> > >  > This guys are inteterested in integration of freeRDP software into
> > >  > ReactOS 01.02.2012, 17:01, "Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo"
> > >  > <elhoir(a)gmail.com>om>:
> > >  >
> > >  > interesting!
> > >  >
> > >  > 2012/2/1 Александр <art1st-tm(a)yandex.ru>
> > >  >
> > >  > FreeRDP 1.0 Released <http://www.freerdp.com/?p=92>
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  > http://www.freerdp.com/
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  > FreeRDP is a free implementation of the Remote Desktop Protocol
> > >  > (RDP), released under the Apache license. Enjoy the freedom of
> > >  > using your software wherever you want, the way you want it, in a
> > >  > world where interoperability can finally liberate your computing
> > >  > experience.
> > >  >
> > >  > *FreeRDP Clients:*
> > >  >
> > >  >    - client/X11 (xfreerdp)
> > >  >       - official client
> > >  >       - RemoteApp support
> > >  >       - X11 GDI implementation
> > >  >    - client/DirectFB (dfreerdp)
> > >  >       - DirectFB support
> > >  >       - software-based GDI (libfreerdp-gdi)
> > >  >    - client/Windows (wfreerdp)
> > >  >       - Native Win32 support
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  > *FreeRDP Servers (experimental):*
> > >  >
> > >  >    - server/X11 (xfreerdp-server)
> > >  >       - RemoteFX-only
> > >  >       - no authentication
> > >  >       - highly experimental
> > >  >       - keyboard and mouse input supported
> > >  >
> > >  > --
> > >  > С наилучшими пожеланиями, Александр.
> > >  >
> > >  > _______________________________________________
> > >  > Ros-dev mailing list
> > >  > Ros-dev(a)reactos.org
> > >  > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  > _______________________________________________
> > >  > Ros-dev mailing list
> > >  > Ros-dev(a)reactos.org
> > >  > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
> > >  >
> > >  > --
> > >  > С наилучшими пожеланиями, Александр.
> > >  >
> > >  > _______________________________________________
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[Pierre Schweitzer]

Hi,

I don't get the point in importing a 3rd party application which is
properly maintained into our code base. It's already big enough.
Adding a link to a binary in RAPPS sounds enough to me.

Regards,
Pierre

Le mercredi 01 février 2012 à 20:27 +0100, Javier Agustìn Fernàndez
Arroyo a écrit :
>   i would say "yes" to import it, but im not
> an authorized voice to say
>  so...
>  
>  On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Zachary Gorden
>  <drakekaizer666(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>          The licensing of ReactOS is not that straightforward.  We have
>          the
>          core OS with its kernel, some of which is GPL v2 and some of
>          which is
>          BSD, we have a lot of Wine code which is LGPL, and we have a
>          scattering of bundled programs and utilities under differing
>          licenses.
>           However, this is 90% irrelevant with respect to applications
>          because
>          what we target is the Windows and NT APIs, which also are
>          implemented
>          by Microsoft.  Applications what we might bundle that target
>          those
>          APIs are not derivatives of our own work, hence it really does
>          not
>          matter what license they fall under, so long as it is an open
>          source
>          one that does not make our lives harder.
>          
>          On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Adam <geekdundee(a)gmail.com>
>          wrote:
> >   [this should be the correct thread for this
> > message this 
>          time... sorry
> >   Colin/Pierre for the mix up before!]
> >
> >  In addition, is the Apache license even GPL compatible? If 
>          not ReactOS
> >   won't be able to use it.
> >
> >  (to be honest, I just hate GPL software which uses GPL when
> >  unnecessary, but in cases like duplicating Windows 
>          technologies, it may
> >   prove to be an advantage, but I would have
> > thought Sleepycat 
>          would be
> >   better than the horrific sham of a "free
> > license" that is 
>          the GPL - of
> >   course that is an opinion of mine)
> >
> >  On Wed, 1 Feb 2012 14:45:17 +0100
> >  Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo <elhoir(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > no idea if it would work due to the current alpha state of 
>          ReactOS...
> >  >
> > > but would be cool if they submit patches or something like 
>          that (or
> >  > just, *help*)  for FreeRDP being running in
> > ROS !! ;)
> > >
> > > On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Александр 
>          <art1st-tm(a)yandex.ru>
> wrote:
> >  >
> > > > This guys are inteterested in integration of freeRDP 
>          software
> into
> >  > > ReactOS 01.02.2012, 17:01, "Javier
> > Agustìn Fernàndez 
>          Arroyo"
> >  > > <elhoir(a)gmail.com>om>:
> > > >
> > > > interesting!
> > > >
> > > > 2012/2/1 Александр <art1st-tm(a)yandex.ru>
> > > >
> > > > FreeRDP 1.0 Released <http://www.freerdp.com/?p=92>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > http://www.freerdp.com/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > FreeRDP is a free implementation of the Remote Desktop 
>          Protocol
> >  > > (RDP), released under the Apache
> > license. Enjoy the 
>          freedom of
> >  > > using your software wherever you want,
> > the way you want 
>          it, in a
> >  > > world where interoperability can finally
> > liberate your 
>          computing
> > >   >
> > > experience.
> > >  >
> > >  > *FreeRDP Clients:*
> > >  >
> > >  >    - client/X11 (xfreerdp)
> > >  >       - official client
> > >  >       - RemoteApp support
> > >  >       - X11 GDI implementation
> > >  >    - client/DirectFB (dfreerdp)
> > >  >       - DirectFB support
> > >  >       - software-based GDI (libfreerdp-gdi)
> > >  >    - client/Windows (wfreerdp)
> > >  >       - Native Win32 support
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  > *FreeRDP Servers (experimental):*
> > >  >
> > >  >    - server/X11 (xfreerdp-server)
> > >  >       - RemoteFX-only
> > >  >       - no authentication
> > >  >       - highly experimental
> > >  >       - keyboard and mouse input supported
> > >  >
> > >  > --
> > >  > С наилучшими пожеланиями, Александр.
> > >  >
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[James Tabor]

RAPPS is good enough....

On 2/1/12, Pierre Schweitzer <pierre(a)reactos.org> wrote:
>   Hi,
>
>  I don't get the point in importing a 3rd party application which is
>  properly maintained into our code base. It's already big enough.
>  Adding a link to a binary in RAPPS sounds enough to me.
>
>  Regards,
>  Pierre
>

[Jan Blomqvist Kinander]

Yep, if they will provide win32 binaries. Else we have to host binaries ourselves. 

Next thing is to set up a proper cooperation with these guys so their server will work
well with our future multiuser environment.
________________________________________________
Jan Blomqvist Kinander (Jaix Bly)  

ReactOS Development List <ros-dev(a)reactos.org> wrote on Thu, February 2nd, 2012,
2:21 AM:
>   RAPPS is good enough....
>  
>  On 2/1/12, Pierre Schweitzer <pierre(a)reactos.org> wrote:
> >   Hi,
> >
> >  I don't get the point in importing a 3rd party application which is
> >  properly maintained into our code base. It's already big enough.
> >  Adding a link to a binary in RAPPS sounds enough to me.
> >
> >  Regards,
> >  Pierre
> >  
>  
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[Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo]

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:50 PM, Pierre Schweitzer <pierre(a)reactos.org>wrote;wrote:

>   Hi,
>
>  I don't get the point in importing a 3rd party application which is
>  properly maintained into our code base. It's already big enough.
>  Adding a link to a binary in RAPPS sounds enough to me.
>
>  
well, ReactOS has its own implementation of the MS Remote Desktop Client,
afaik. But i dont know it its complete or not. So, i still think it would
be a good thing to import a working one, and release devs to work in other
areas which need more attention

thats one of the purposes of free software... code sharing :)

[WaxDragon]

I'm waaaaay more interested in the server side portion of this.

There are already several free and/or open source rdp clients, some of
which even work under ReactOS.
On Feb 1, 2012 6:55 AM, "Александр" <art1st-tm(a)yandex.ru> wrote:

>   FreeRDP 1.0 Released
> <http://www.freerdp.com/?p=92>
>
>
>
>  http://www.freerdp.com/
>
>
>  FreeRDP is a free implementation of the Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP),
>  released under the Apache license. Enjoy the freedom of using your software
>  wherever you want, the way you want it, in a world where interoperability
>  can finally liberate your computing experience.
>
>  *FreeRDP Clients:*
>
>     - client/X11 (xfreerdp)
>        - official client
>        - RemoteApp support
>        - X11 GDI implementation
>     - client/DirectFB (dfreerdp)
>        - DirectFB support
>        - software-based GDI (libfreerdp-gdi)
>     - client/Windows (wfreerdp)
>        - Native Win32 support
>
>
>
>  *FreeRDP Servers (experimental):*
>
>     - server/X11 (xfreerdp-server)
>        - RemoteFX-only
>        - no authentication
>        - highly experimental
>        - keyboard and mouse input supported
>
>  --
>  С наилучшими пожеланиями, Александр.
>
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