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[Murphy, Ged (Bolton)]

We're at the 2 month period since our last release. Is it not time to branch
now and chase some more publicity 

If Alex meets his 1st December deadline for User-Mode networking, I propose
a 0.2.9 branch then.

Any thoughts?




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[Steven Edwards]

Hi,

On 11/28/05, Murphy, Ged (Bolton) <MurphyG(a)cmpbatteries.co.uk> wrote:
>   If Alex meets his 1st December deadline for User-Mode
> networking, I propose
>  a 0.2.9 branch then. 
Sound good to me.

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[David Johnson]

Please do.

On 11/28/05, Steven Edwards <winehacker(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>  
>  Hi,
>
>  On 11/28/05, Murphy, Ged (Bolton) <MurphyG(a)cmpbatteries.co.uk> wrote:
> >   If Alex meets his 1st December deadline for
> > User-Mode networking, I 
>  propose
> >   a 0.2.9 branch then. 
>  Sound good to me.
>
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[David Johnson]

Waiting with antici.............pation.

Dave Johnson
San Diego ReactOS Users Group.

On 11/28/05, David Johnson <davidjohnson.johnson(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>  
>  Please do.
>
>  On 11/28/05, Steven Edwards <winehacker(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >  
> >  Hi,
> >
> >  On 11/28/05, Murphy, Ged (Bolton) <MurphyG(a)cmpbatteries.co.uk> wrote:
> > >   If Alex meets his 1st December deadline for
> > > User-Mode networking, I 
> >  propose
> > >   a 0.2.9 branch then. 
> >  Sound good to me.
> >
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[Ged Murphy]

David Johnson wrote:
>   Waiting with antici.............pation. 
This is the exact reason I think we need to make a big push for 0.3.0
People have been waiting with anticipation since last Christmas

As Alex said a while back, 0.2.9 could be the 0.3.0 preview release.
I'm gonna help push for big publicity for the 0.3.0 release, so it needs 
to be stable.
We've already got 2 magazine deals waiting ...

[Brandon Turner]

Sounds good to me, I guess I will be publishing it?  Are we going to 
make a big push to make the release after 0.3.0?  Once networking works 
again im going to try and start debugging the simple networking apps 
that we need for 0.3.0( lynx -source, curl, and wget).

Brandon

Murphy, Ged (Bolton) wrote:

>   We're at the 2 month period since our last
> release. Is it not time to 
>  branch now and chase some more publicity
>
>  If Alex meets his 1st December deadline for User-Mode networking, I 
>  propose a 0.2.9 branch then.
>
>  Any thoughts?
>
>
>
>
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[Alex Ionescu]

Murphy, Ged (Bolton) wrote:

>   We're at the 2 month period since our last
> release. Is it not time to 
>  branch now and chase some more publicity
>
>  If Alex meets his 1st December deadline for User-Mode networking, I 
>  propose a 0.2.9 branch then.
>
>  Any thoughts?
>
>  
Hi Ged,

I told you on IRC, and you seemed to ignore what I was telling you...so 
I'll say it publically.
Just because I finish the CODE on December 1st doesn't mean it's ready 
to be used. I've said it numerous times (and even posted on my blog) 
that it will probably only be usable in HEAD after around December 14th. 
And after that I still have kernel-mode fixes planned for afd.sys, which 
go well beyond into January. If you branch 0.2.9 now, it won't be a 
networking release (again), and will offer little to the users.

Best regards,
Alex Ionescu

[Ged Murphy]

Alex Ionescu wrote:
>   Murphy, Ged (Bolton) wrote:
>
> >   We're at the 2 month period since our last
> > release. Is it not time to 
> >  branch now and chase some more publicity
> >
> >  If Alex meets his 1st December deadline for User-Mode networking, I 
> >  propose a 0.2.9 branch then.
> >
> >  Any thoughts?
> >
> >  
>  Hi Ged,
>
>  I told you on IRC, and you seemed to ignore what I was telling 
>  you...so I'll say it publically. 
I haven't 'ignored' what you were telling me. I've never even spoken to 
you about this in IRC. In fact I only started thinking it was time for a 
release this morning. If you've spoken to me about something related 
this this, I've either forgotten or missed what you said. I generally 
don't purposely ignore people.

>   Just because I finish the CODE on December 1st
> doesn't mean it's ready 
>  to be used.  
I didn't say that it would be ready to use. Your blog says "Finish 
User-Mode Networking for ReactOS. Deadline: Dec 1st." which I assumed 
meant 'finish'.  I was simply looking for a branch date, and that seemed 
an ideal time.

>   I've said it numerous times (and even posted on my
> blog) that it will 
>  probably only be usable in HEAD after around December 14th. And after 
>  that I still have kernel-mode fixes planned for afd.sys, which go well 
>  beyond into January. If you branch 0.2.9 now, it won't be a networking 
>  release (again), and will offer little to the users. 
I know 0.2.9 isn't going to be the networking release. I mentioned it 
could be a networking preview release as I assumed your sockets lib 
might be in some way usable, due to the 'finish' you used to describe 
what was happening on 1st Dec. Now I know it won't be doesn't change the 
fact that I think we need to branch. 1st Dec still sounds good to me if 
everyone is in agreement.
I agree with Ge on the branch often way of doing things, preferably 
every 2 months.

Ged.

[Alex Ionescu]

Ged Murphy wrote:

>   Alex Ionescu wrote:
>
> >   Murphy, Ged (Bolton) wrote:
> >
> > >   We're at the 2 month period since our last
> > > release. Is it not time 
> > >  to branch now and chase some more publicity
> > >
> > >  If Alex meets his 1st December deadline for User-Mode networking, I 
> > >  propose a 0.2.9 branch then.
> > >
> > >  Any thoughts?
> > >
> > >  
> >  Hi Ged,
> >
> >  I told you on IRC, and you seemed to ignore what I was telling 
> >  you...so I'll say it publically. 
>
>  I haven't 'ignored' what you were telling me. I've never even spoken 
>  to you about this in IRC. In fact I only started thinking it was time 
>  for a release this morning. If you've spoken to me about something 
>  related this this, I've either forgotten or missed what you said. I 
>  generally don't purposely ignore people.
>
> >   Just because I finish the CODE on December 1st
> > doesn't mean it's 
> >  ready to be used.  
>
>  I didn't say that it would be ready to use. Your blog says "Finish 
>  User-Mode Networking for ReactOS. Deadline: Dec 1st." which I assumed 
>  meant 'finish'.  I was simply looking for a branch date, and that 
>  seemed an ideal time. 
Are you delibaretely skipping:

"Commit and test the User-Mode Networking branch, with appropriate 
afd.sys changes. Deadline: Dec 14th."?

>  
> >   I've said it numerous times (and even posted
> > on my blog) that it will 
> >  probably only be usable in HEAD after around December 14th. And after 
> >  that I still have kernel-mode fixes planned for afd.sys, which go 
> >  well beyond into January. If you branch 0.2.9 now, it won't be a 
> >  networking release (again), and will offer little to the users. 
>
>  I know 0.2.9 isn't going to be the networking release. I mentioned it 
>  could be a networking preview release as I assumed your sockets lib 
>  might be in some way usable, due to the 'finish' you used to describe 
>  what was happening on 1st Dec. Now I know it won't be doesn't change 
>  the fact that I think we need to branch. 1st Dec still sounds good to 
>  me if everyone is in agreement. 
I agree.

>   I agree with Ge on the branch often way of doing
> things, preferably 
>  every 2 months. 
I agree too. Just don't:
1) Make it depend on me
2) Call it a networking preview. It's not.

>  
>  Ged.

[Ge van Geldorp]

>   From: Murphy, Ged (Bolton)
>
>  We're at the 2 month period since our last release. Is it not time to 
branch
now

Actually, the SourceForge page lists 29 Oct as the release date. Still, it
won't come as a surprise that I agree with Ged and believe we should start
thinking about a new release.

GvG

[TwoTailedFox]

Let's look at this from the "Mozilla Perspective".

Why not have 0.2.9 listed as a "Developer Release", or "Networking
Preview Release"?

As has been said, not much has changed to the end user from 0.2.8


On 11/28/05, Ge van Geldorp <gvg(a)reactos.org> wrote:
> >   From: Murphy,
> > Ged (Bolton)
> >
> >  We're at the 2 month period since our last release. Is it not time to 
>  branch
> now
>
>  Actually, the SourceForge page lists 29 Oct as the release date. Still, it
>  won't come as a surprise that I agree with Ged and believe we should start
>  thinking about a new release.
>
>  GvG
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[Ge van Geldorp]

>   From: TwoTailedFox
>  
>  Let's look at this from the "Mozilla Perspective".
>  
>  Why not have 0.2.9 listed as a "Developer Release", or 
>  "Networking Preview Release"? 
Well, I don't really care how it's called. Just plain 0.2.9 would be fine
with me though.

>   As has been said, not much has changed to the end user
> from 0.2.8 
There have been huge advances in PnP, Firefox has very visible advanced, I'm
sure I can come up with more stuff if I bothered to look through the
commits. If you think that's "not much" I'm wondering what you consider
"much" :-).

GvG

[WaxDragon]

It would be silly of us to release now, since networking is broken,
among other things.

On 11/28/05, Murphy, Ged (Bolton) <MurphyG(a)cmpbatteries.co.uk> wrote:
>  
>
>  We're at the 2 month period since our last release. Is it not time to branch
>  now and chase some more publicity
>
>  If Alex meets his 1st December deadline for User-Mode networking, I propose
>  a 0.2.9 branch then.
>
>  Any thoughts?
>
>
>
>
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[David Johnson]

I submit waiting til networking is fully functional.

Dave Johnson
SD ROS UG

On 11/30/05, WaxDragon <waxdragon(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>   It would be silly of us to release now, since
> networking is broken,
>  among other things.
>
>  On 11/28/05, Murphy, Ged (Bolton) <MurphyG(a)cmpbatteries.co.uk> wrote:
> >  
> >
> >  We're at the 2 month period since our last release. Is it not time to 
>  branch
> >   now and chase some more publicity
> >
> >  If Alex meets his 1st December deadline for User-Mode networking, I 
>  propose
> >   a 0.2.9 branch then.
> >
> >  Any thoughts?
> >
> >
> >
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