26 Mar
2006
26 Mar
'06
10:03 p.m.
Hello!
In an effort to put ReactOS development into higher scales, I would
like to announce that I am creating a global list of all possible
development tasks, broken down into modules/sections/etc. By the time
all tasks in this list are fully completed, ReactOS would result in
transition to a beta-stage and bumping version number to >= 0.5 (so
you understand how big this todolist will be).
This list would be a base to the global ReactOS Roadmap which is
going to show a current status of reactos, expected times before
future releases, and what future releases will contain exactly.
And the most important: It makes every programmer willing to
participate in the project to find a task he feels familiar with,
actually do it, and see how it advances the project. All the way
before, the only really managed part of development was fixing bugs,
because Bugzilla is storing all bugs descriptions/patches/
assignations/etc. Now, similar thing will come in help to the general
development.
Creating such a list is quite a hard task, and it can't be done by an
individual, so:
Attention all ReactOS Developers, please! Your word is very valuable
here! Please, compile a list of tasks you think ReactOS needs and
send it here as a reply to this message (I will put a preliminary
draft of what I already compiled so far too somewhere in the wiki).
Each task should be a clearly outlined work if possible, however all
information is important so you can add something like "//TODO: Add
more details about this task later" too.
Example of a task considered as "good" to me:
- Boot manager
-- Make Loader Parameter Block compatible with Windows XP one
Example of a less exact task, but which is still "good"
- Boot manager
-- Make boot process conforming to NTLDR boot process, so that
FreeLdr can boot Windows without NTLDR.
Example of a "bad" task
- NTOSKRNL
-- Improve kernel
Thank you for the collaboration, I know this maybe a quite hard to
do, but it's the first steps of an effort to get development to the
speed and quality we never had before. Other things to mention are
continuos integration system, regression testing frameworks, etc, etc.
With the best regards,
Aleksey Bragin.
28 Mar
28 Mar
9:38 a.m.
Aleksey Bragin wrote:
Attention all ReactOS Developers, please! Your word is very valuable
here! Please, compile a list of tasks you think ReactOS needs and send
it here as a reply to this message
Here are some tasks which spring to mind for me. Most are very general
though and aren’t down to a level you exemplified.
- Network
-- Allow setting of address information via ncpa. (This is the only
remaining task for the current 0.3.0 roadmap)
-- Salvage the sockets library from Alex’s branch and merge to the
development branch.
-- Build on the existing NDIS model introducing support for IM drivers
-- Add a default firewall including GUI for user interaction of the
fundamental aspects.
-- Add support for packet routing with Network Address Translation.
-- Assist and merge with a Win32 port of SMB.
- Security
-- Start to build on the current framework providing basic OS security
-- Implement logon / logoff facility linking in with our gina library.
- Filesystem
-- Replace the primary filesystem in place of a journaling system.
- NT Services
-- Add support for starting and stopping services
- Multimedia
-- Continue development on DX initially aiming for hardware accelerated
playability of key games.
-- Improve support for existing sound model.
- Explorer
-- Add support for layered windows.
-- Add libraries for support of common image formats, including jpeg,
gif and png.
-- Improve the graphical design of the UI. Enlist help of graphical
designers / programmers.
-- Add support for theming.
- Drivers
-- Continue work on Plug and Play Manager
-- Finish off USB support for keyboard and mouse.
-- Provide support for drivers written with WDM
-- USB support for peripherals such as pendrives and cameras
- Printing
-- Introduce a printing framework.
- Power Management
-- Add support for ACPI and APM. Battery monitoring, processor
throttling, hibernation.
-- Introduce shutdown and restart functionality.
- Build System
-- Pick up CIS and incorporate into a build farm preferably situated
within a university.
-- Improve regression testing facilities using Wine where possible.
-- Build ReactOS with MSVC and PSDK.
7:26 p.m.
-Networking
-- Include ZeroConf networking hosted internally to host uPNP
applications to other users on the network.
-Filesystem
-- Add support for Networked File Systems to allow Networked
resources to act as local folders & drives.
-- Automatically defragment files less than 20 megabytes, not read-
only, not in use, etc.
-- Automatically cache drivers, and executables that a user access
frequently to reduce load time.
-Security
-- Add support for Access Control Lists embedded in an internal LDAP
service to restrict users from accessing others files
-- Add Login / Logout / Lock support to explorer, Windows Key + L or
like that of Windows 2000 or XP
-- Encrypted / Compressed home directories which are actually files
that mount on login and unmount on Logout something like FileVault on
Mac OS X.
-Explorer
-- Revamp explorer to look and feel like Windows explorer
-- Remove access to Registry (common users don't use the registry and
might not even know it is there)
-- Allow indexing and caching of commonly used folders, files, programs
-- Support for Windows XP Sidebar features like commonly used files
and folders, file properties, etc using standard javascript and html
which can be turned on/off.
On Mar 28, 2006, at 3:38 AM, Ged Murphy wrote:
Aleksey Bragin wrote:
Attention all ReactOS Developers, please! Your word is very
valuable here! Please, compile a list of tasks you think ReactOS
needs and send it here as a reply to this message
Here are some tasks which spring to mind for me. Most are very
general though and aren’t down to a level you exemplified.
- Network
-- Allow setting of address information via ncpa. (This is the only
remaining task for the current 0.3.0 roadmap)
-- Salvage the sockets library from Alex’s branch and merge to the
development branch.
-- Build on the existing NDIS model introducing support for IM drivers
-- Add a default firewall including GUI for user interaction of the
fundamental aspects.
-- Add support for packet routing with Network Address Translation.
-- Assist and merge with a Win32 port of SMB.
- Security
-- Start to build on the current framework providing basic OS security
-- Implement logon / logoff facility linking in with our gina library.
- Filesystem
-- Replace the primary filesystem in place of a journaling system.
- NT Services
-- Add support for starting and stopping services
- Multimedia
-- Continue development on DX initially aiming for hardware
accelerated playability of key games.
-- Improve support for existing sound model.
- Explorer
-- Add support for layered windows.
-- Add libraries for support of common image formats, including
jpeg, gif and png.
-- Improve the graphical design of the UI. Enlist help of graphical
designers / programmers.
-- Add support for theming.
- Drivers
-- Continue work on Plug and Play Manager
-- Finish off USB support for keyboard and mouse.
-- Provide support for drivers written with WDM
-- USB support for peripherals such as pendrives and cameras
- Printing
-- Introduce a printing framework.
- Power Management
-- Add support for ACPI and APM. Battery monitoring, processor
throttling, hibernation.
-- Introduce shutdown and restart functionality.
- Build System
-- Pick up CIS and incorporate into a build farm preferably
situated within a university.
-- Improve regression testing facilities using Wine where possible.
-- Build ReactOS with MSVC and PSDK.
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8:07 p.m.
New subject: ReactOS on Linuxtag 2006
As I posted many weeks ago to the mailinglist and now at the forum
(http://www.reactos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=15127#15127) we should
consider representing ReactOS on Linuxtag 2006.
Please watch the forum for further informations.
Best regards,
Dominik
29 Mar
29 Mar
12:19 a.m.
Rick Langschultz wrote:
-Networking
-- Include ZeroConf networking hosted internally to host uPNP
applications to other users on the network.
-Filesystem
-- Add support for Networked File Systems to allow Networked resources
to act as local folders & drives.
-- Automatically defragment files less than 20 megabytes, not
read-only, not in use, etc.
-- Automatically cache drivers, and executables that a user access
frequently to reduce load time.
On Mar 28, 2006, at 3:38 AM, Ged Murphy wrote:
> - Filesystem
> -- Replace the primary filesystem in place of a journaling system.
Autoimatically defragment files on filesystems that require it.
Ext2 and Ext3 not the best idea most cases they defrag themself in
general operation most linux/unix/bsd filesystem do.
Ntfs and Fat require it.
--Option of background operation filesystem defrager for Ntfs, Fat and
any other supported filesystem that requires it a complete defrag of
drive only in use files not touch option.
--Processor and memory usage limiter on filesystem defrager in background.
--Boot Defrag options provided by default no third party tool required
to do this.
--Filesystem Defrager must have continual operation without restarting
no matter what is written to disk its working on.
--Registry Hive defraging options for every boot or on X number of reboots.
Filesystem--Security
--Documentation on what filesystem flags are required and how they
operate locations of sources good idea for developers from other platforms.
--Universal posix/xattr/acl translator to and from Ms Windows attributes
and secuirty stored on harddrive.
The universal will open up options of porting alot more Linux/unix/bsd
filesystems.
--Support for full unicode filesystems. All applications in Reactos
should expect filenames to be unicode.<A audit some time>
Ext2/3 Filenames are unicode no codepage required.
--Ext2 filesystem driver must be updated to Ext3 support. Having to
redo journaling is a pain. The different between Ext2 and Ext3 is
journaling.
Peter Dolding
4:35 a.m.
I have thought of a hack that would allow ext2 to store legacy 8.3 file
names. If a program requests a 8.3 file name we create it on the fly
from the real one. If the program changes the 8.3 file name, we create a
sim (or hard) link to the original with the new name. Although this may
need to be tweaked, you get the basic idea. ;)
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-Networking
-- Include ZeroConf networking hosted internally to host uPNP
applications to other users on the network.
-Filesystem
-- Add support for Networked File Systems to allow Networked
resources to act as local folders & drives.
-- Automatically defragment files less than 20 megabytes, not
read-only, not in use, etc.
-- Automatically cache drivers, and executables that a user access
frequently to reduce load time.
On Mar 28, 2006, at 3:38 AM, Ged Murphy wrote:
> - Filesystem
> -- Replace the primary filesystem in place of a journaling system.
Autoimatically defragment files on filesystems that require it.
Ext2 and Ext3 not the best idea most cases they defrag themself in
general operation most linux/unix/bsd filesystem do.
Ntfs and Fat require it.
--Option of background operation filesystem defrager for Ntfs, Fat and
any other supported filesystem that requires it a complete defrag of
drive only in use files not touch option.
--Processor and memory usage limiter on filesystem defrager in
background.
--Boot Defrag options provided by default no third party tool required
to do this.
--Filesystem Defrager must have continual operation without restarting
no matter what is written to disk its working on.
--Registry Hive defraging options for every boot or on X number of
reboots.
Filesystem--Security
--Documentation on what filesystem flags are required and how they
operate locations of sources good idea for developers from other
platforms.
--Universal posix/xattr/acl translator to and from Ms Windows
attributes and secuirty stored on harddrive.
The universal will open up options of porting alot more Linux/unix/bsd
filesystems.
--Support for full unicode filesystems. All applications in Reactos
should expect filenames to be unicode.<A audit some time>
Ext2/3 Filenames are unicode no codepage required.
--Ext2 filesystem driver must be updated to Ext3 support. Having to
redo journaling is a pain. The different between Ext2 and Ext3 is
journaling.
Peter Dolding
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11:08 p.m.
Jerry wrote:
I have thought of a hack that would allow ext2 to
store legacy 8.3
file names. If a program requests a 8.3 file name we create it on the
fly from the real one. If the program changes the 8.3 file name, we
create a sim (or hard) link to the original with the new name.
Although this may need to be tweaked, you get the basic idea. ;)
Yes know hack been
done been delete and droped from Linux apps. You
will find this makes the ext2/3 messy and hard to get around from a
Linux point of view. Also hardlinks and sim links are not deleted when
the file is long filename is. Now xattr the 8.3 filename. NTFS can be
created without 8.3 filenames so I don't class it as a big problem.
Other way is dosemu way create them on the fly. I know samba 3 using on
the fly. I think samba 4 uses xattr to fix.
Security attribute translation is required so we can know how much xattr
space is left on the ext2/3 filesystem. Its locked to one block. 1k to
8k depending on the format of the disk. Ext3 update most likely Ext4
will remove the limitation.
http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/fat32format.htm Waxdragon feel like
giving it a test run??.
It a better fat32 format program that what even comes with Windows XP
and its GPL. Only fat32 format program if you are nuts can do a single
250G part or bigger.
Reason why I have moved on to defraging. Only reason why we don't have
a format tool is that something is missing to stop this working or I am
the only person who knew about this. Its the best fat32 format program
around so no point redoing it. chkdsk tool does have to be run after
it. Ie bad sector detection is not done.
--develop a chkdsk if one is not already. Activate on boot after not
shutdown correctly and fixing/marking defects.
Note I forgot It need chkdsk to make safe disks to use. Last format of
anything like that 2 years ago memory rusted slightly.
Peter Dolding
11:02 p.m.
Peter Dolding wrote:
Reason why I have moved on to defraging.
We already have a nice NTFS/FAT defrag tool which can easily be merged
into the core system if need be (although I think a revamped GUI would
be sufficient)
I'll drop the code into rosapps so we don't loose it, it's almost
impossible to find a copy on the net now.
Ged.
30 Mar
30 Mar
5:54 p.m.
On 3/29/06, Ged Murphy <gedmurphy(a)gmail.com> wrote:
We already have a nice NTFS/FAT defrag tool which can
easily be merged
into the core system if need be (although I think a revamped GUI would
be sufficient)
I'll drop the code into rosapps so we don't loose it, it's almost
impossible to find a copy on the net now.
I also dropped a copy of format/fsck.fat in rosapps a while back. The
code is readonly as someone with better programming skills than me
needs to check the math to make sure writes are safe but according to
our testing it looked good. Its by no means a properly solution as
Windows uses some dll for fslib or something that exports a bunch of
C++ classes and COM objects to handle filesystem formatting but for
limited purposes of fat16/32 support it should work.
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29 Mar
29 Mar
2:18 p.m.
-Filesystem
-- Add support for Networked File Systems to allow Networked resources
to act as local folders & drives.
-- Automatically defragment files less than 20 megabytes, not
read-only, not in use, etc.
-- Automatically cache drivers, and executables that a user access
frequently to reduce load time.
On Mar 28, 2006, at 3:38 AM, Ged Murphy wrote:
> - Filesystem
> -- Replace the primary filesystem in place of a journaling system.
Autoimatically defragment files on filesystems that require it.
Ext2 and Ext3 not the best idea most cases they defrag themself in
general operation most linux/unix/bsd filesystem do.
Ntfs and Fat require it.
--Option of background operation filesystem defrager for Ntfs, Fat and
any other supported filesystem that requires it a complete defrag of
drive only in use files not touch option.
--Processor and memory usage limiter on filesystem defrager in background.
--Boot Defrag options provided by default no third party tool required
to do this.
--Filesystem Defrager must have continual operation without restarting
no matter what is written to disk its working on.
--Registry Hive defraging options for every boot or on X number of reboots.
Filesystem--Security
--Documentation on what filesystem flags are required and how they
operate locations of sources good idea for developers from other platforms.
--Universal posix/xattr/acl translator to and from Ms Windows attributes
and secuirty stored on harddrive.
The universal will open up options of porting alot more Linux/unix/bsd
filesystems.
--Support for full unicode filesystems. All applications in Reactos
should expect filenames to be unicode.<A audit some time>
Ext2/3 Filenames are unicode no codepage required.
--Ext2 filesystem driver must be updated to Ext3 support. Having to
redo journaling is a pain. The different between Ext2 and Ext3 is
journaling.
4:28 p.m.
I agread with Ged here
and I will not change my goal getting least dx 2d and 3d to ros
and helping with some part of the sound system and other stuff
as I usal do.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ged Murphy" <gedmurphy(a)gmail.com>
To: "ReactOS Development List" <ros-dev(a)reactos.org>
Sent: den 28 March 2006 11:38
Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Roadmap / List of tasks / Attn. all developers
Aleksey Bragin wrote:
Attention all ReactOS Developers, please! Your word is very valuable
here! Please, compile a list of tasks you think ReactOS needs and send
it here as a reply to this message
Here are some tasks which spring to mind for me. Most are very general
though and aren’t down to a level you exemplified.
- Network
-- Allow setting of address information via ncpa. (This is the only
remaining task for the current 0.3.0 roadmap)
-- Salvage the sockets library from Alex’s branch and merge to the
development branch.
-- Build on the existing NDIS model introducing support for IM drivers
-- Add a default firewall including GUI for user interaction of the
fundamental aspects.
-- Add support for packet routing with Network Address Translation.
-- Assist and merge with a Win32 port of SMB.
- Security
-- Start to build on the current framework providing basic OS security
-- Implement logon / logoff facility linking in with our gina library.
- Filesystem
-- Replace the primary filesystem in place of a journaling system.
- NT Services
-- Add support for starting and stopping services
- Multimedia
-- Continue development on DX initially aiming for hardware accelerated
playability of key games.
-- Improve support for existing sound model.
- Explorer
-- Add support for layered windows.
-- Add libraries for support of common image formats, including jpeg,
gif and png.
-- Improve the graphical design of the UI. Enlist help of graphical
designers / programmers.
-- Add support for theming.
- Drivers
-- Continue work on Plug and Play Manager
-- Finish off USB support for keyboard and mouse.
-- Provide support for drivers written with WDM
-- USB support for peripherals such as pendrives and cameras
- Printing
-- Introduce a printing framework.
- Power Management
-- Add support for ACPI and APM. Battery monitoring, processor
throttling, hibernation.
-- Introduce shutdown and restart functionality.
- Build System
-- Pick up CIS and incorporate into a build farm preferably situated
within a university.
-- Improve regression testing facilities using Wine where possible.
-- Build ReactOS with MSVC and PSDK.
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28 Mar
28 Mar
2:38 p.m.
Though I am no dev, this is a very small list of things that seem
important to me
- Shell
-- Remove the blue line on bottom of the startpanel
-- hide expand button in tray if not needed
-- add menu latency to startmenu
-- make drag-and-drop work in startmenu
-- make alphablend for icons work
-- add trashcan and implement delete functions
-- add posibility to change mouse-cursor speed
-- deactivate buttons without function
- Boot manager
-- change the current desing to a plain minimalistic black / white design
6:43 p.m.
Here are some tasks which come to my mind:
- System
-- Terminal Server alike integration (multiple user on one computer)
-- filesystem drivers for ext3 and reiserfs4
- Shell
-- a lot of shell32/explorer dialogs (properties, etc.)
-- working drop-down menus
-- tasks-list or information bar which doesn't rely on a
-- Clipboard server: copy&paste feature, ole, etc.
-- theme-able GUI
-- svg based vector icon support
- Control Panels
-- improve several control panels (add more options, add features, etc.)
- Help System
-- create a help system for ReactOS
-- maybe a html-help or hlp format based one or html/xhtml/xml (gecko engine)
-- write help pages
- ReactOS Search
-- Front-end Search query and result application
-- a system-wide search service (with API for external apps) for
indexing and queries
-- similar to "spotlight" and various "desktop search" tools
-- per volume based metadata and content databases
-- slogan: "fast, consistent, innovative and reliable"
-- support for all recognized volumes; it does work on all filesystems
in contrast to other similar solutions
-- integration in the ReactOS shell/explorer
-- (for more information: http://www.reactos.org/wiki/index.php/ReactOS_Search)
- Paint clone
-- ged (and w3seek) are working on it
- input assistance tools
-- virtual keyboard
-- screen magnifying glass
-- etc.
- winlogon
-- logon-screen
-- security related code
- Wordpad like app
-- vendor import from winehq
- System Tools
-- defragmentation app (for fat12/16/32 and ext2)
-- ftp tool
-- wizards for network configuration (ppoe, modem, wlan, etc.)
-- Backup tool (user settings, user data)
-- several system tools should accept console flags too (for batch
scripts, etc.)
-- help/manual pages for several tools (as usual in the multics/unix
world) -> see RosApps project (a bit out of date ...)
-- special Server Tools to position ReactOS also as a server operating system
- Package Manager
-- a simple and working (really need some more feature) is in RosApps
-- support for offline (CD) and online (reactos.org website) package database
-- install and manage apps
-- installation of "RosApps" and some third party tools/apps (mozilla
firefox/thunderbird, etc.) while the second step of the ReactOS setup
- RosApps
-- IRC client: e.g. BoxedIrc (c source code, gnu gpl, -> soureforge.net)
-- simple and tiny webserver: let the users share their data
(documents, images) with their own webserver (like MacOS X)
- ReactOS Setup
-- combine the LiveCD (only a light version) and the BootCD (this
doesn't me the dead for the LiveCD!)
-- Copy and setup the settings with the LiveCD version (similar to
WinVista), finally reboot into the new installed ReactOS
-- by default, only a few really important settings should be required
-- extended settings should be hidden by default, so that they cannot
confuse normal user
-- let more advantaged user to input and adjust more settings while
the install process (even more then WinXP) and support for saved
settings from a usb-stick, etc.
-- let the user specific the settings in the first part of the
installation process and then no more user interaction should be
requiered; although this shouldn't be such a big problem, because
ReactOS won't get such bloated as some other operating systems and
distributions (by default).
-- keep the current text mode setup (step 1) app for leagancy (only
optional), (no high resolution monitor, embed purpose, outdated
hardware, etc.)
-- let the user to install ReactOS even from Win32
-- support for reiserfs4, ext2/3 while setup (partition and installation)
-- simple graphical partition tool which allow you to create, delete,
rename and format partitions
- LiveCD
-- improve the LiveCD (no reboot required for several settings, etc.)
-- RamDrive support
-- should be equal to the BootCD (the same apps, almost same
settings/registry keys)
-- make the LiveCD the "flagship" ("spread" cds around) for events
like "linuxtag", "linuxworld", "wineconf", etc.
-- reason: everyone want to test a operating system before he change
to it finally.
And some links to ReactOS wiki pages which contain some interesting tasks too:
* http://www.reactos.org/wiki/index.php/Security
* http://www.reactos.org/wiki/index.php/UserSecurity
* http://www.reactos.org/wiki/index.php/ShutdownProcess
* http://www.reactos.org/wiki/index.php/Firewall
* http://www.reactos.org/wiki/index.php/Alex%27s_0.3.0_%27User_Wow_Factor%27_…
* http://www.reactos.org/wiki/index.php/Mf%27s_UIdeas
* http://www.reactos.org/wiki/index.php/Ideas
7:08 p.m.
I started a defragmentation app several weeks ago, but unfortunately im
stuck. The important API-parts are not implmented yet and I'm lacking of
knowledge to implement them on my own. So I tried to directly access the
FS, but then again I was stuck in the filesystem-functions.
So, if anyone has some good help for me, documentation, article, etc,
feel free to let me know and I'll give it one more try.
Klemens Friedl schrieb:
[..]
- System Tools
-- defragmentation app (for fat12/16/32 and ext2)
8:59 p.m.
For ext3 filesystem drivers, we could use John Newbigin's EXT2 IFS,
that is GPLed and can read ext3 too. (Its readonly atm though)
--- Klemens Friedl <frik85(a)gmail.com> a écrit :
Here are some tasks which come to my mind:
- System
-- Terminal Server alike integration (multiple user on one computer)
-- filesystem drivers for ext3 and reiserfs4
Kind regards,
Sylvain Petreolle (aka Usurp)
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7 Apr
3:33 a.m.
Dominik wrote:
- Shell
-- (...)
-- Allow icon moving on a window and on the desktop.
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