Industry support

[David Hinz]

When I first throw in the idea, that we could try to get some big 
companys supporting us, I was amazed by the huge response.
A lot of people seem to be very interested in this, but after some days, 
I noticed that there are nearly no devs who replied to my mail, or the 
numerous replies on it.
So what I'm asking for is how the devs and especially our PC Steven 
Edwards think about asking some companys like IBM, Intel, AMD, nVIDIA, 
ATI, Dell,... to support our project.

There are a lot of ways, they could support us, either by money, or by 
developers, or by knowledge/documentations.
Every of the mentioned companys would be able to support us, but I think 
the only person who has the right to ask any of them is our PC, or maybe 
somebody he authorized to do so.

I'm waiting for your replies.

Greets,

David Hinz

BTW, the mail I mentioned above is 
http://www.reactos.org/archives/public/ros-dev/2005-December/006645.html

[Brandon Turner]

It would be nice to be supported.  Weather any company is really going 
to take us serious or take the risk of making MS mad is a whole 
different story.

Brandon

David Hinz wrote:

>   When I first throw in the idea, that we could try to
> get some big 
>  companys supporting us, I was amazed by the huge response.
>  A lot of people seem to be very interested in this, but after some 
>  days, I noticed that there are nearly no devs who replied to my mail, 
>  or the numerous replies on it.
>  So what I'm asking for is how the devs and especially our PC Steven 
>  Edwards think about asking some companys like IBM, Intel, AMD, nVIDIA, 
>  ATI, Dell,... to support our project.
>
>  There are a lot of ways, they could support us, either by money, or by 
>  developers, or by knowledge/documentations.
>  Every of the mentioned companys would be able to support us, but I 
>  think the only person who has the right to ask any of them is our PC, 
>  or maybe somebody he authorized to do so.
>
>  I'm waiting for your replies.
>
>  Greets,
>
>  David Hinz
>
>  BTW, the mail I mentioned above is 
>  http://www.reactos.org/archives/public/ros-dev/2005-December/006645.html
>  _______________________________________________
>  Ros-dev mailing list
>  Ros-dev(a)reactos.org
>  http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
>
>

[David Hinz]

Sometimes such companys want to demonstrate, that not the whole world 
depends on the little town Redmond...

Greets,

David Hinz

Brandon Turner schrieb:
>   It would be nice to be supported.  Weather any company
> is really going 
>  to take us serious or take the risk of making MS mad is a whole 
>  different story.
>  
>  Brandon
>  
>  David Hinz wrote:
>  
> >   When I first throw in the idea, that we could try
> > to get some big 
> >  companys supporting us, I was amazed by the huge response.
> >  A lot of people seem to be very interested in this, but after some 
> >  days, I noticed that there are nearly no devs who replied to my mail, 
> >  or the numerous replies on it.
> >  So what I'm asking for is how the devs and especially our PC Steven 
> >  Edwards think about asking some companys like IBM, Intel, AMD, nVIDIA, 
> >  ATI, Dell,... to support our project.
> >
> >  There are a lot of ways, they could support us, either by money, or by 
> >  developers, or by knowledge/documentations.
> >  Every of the mentioned companys would be able to support us, but I 
> >  think the only person who has the right to ask any of them is our PC, 
> >  or maybe somebody he authorized to do so.
> >
> >  I'm waiting for your replies.
> >
> >  Greets,
> >
> >  David Hinz
> >
> >  BTW, the mail I mentioned above is 
> >  http://www.reactos.org/archives/public/ros-dev/2005-December/006645.html
> >  _______________________________________________
> >  Ros-dev mailing list
> >  Ros-dev(a)reactos.org
> >  http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
> >
> >  
>  
>  _______________________________________________
>  Ros-dev mailing list
>  Ros-dev(a)reactos.org
>  http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
>

[Christian Lund Hansen]

someone was talking about ATi drivers or something like that.. i just 
bumped into this little project. dont know if this link is any help, if 
not, please regard this mail :)

http://r300.sourceforge.net/R300.php

> >   A lot of
> > people seem to be very interested in this, but after some 
> >  days, I noticed that there are nearly no devs who replied to my mail, 
> >  or the numerous replies on it.
> >  So what I'm asking for is how the devs and especially our PC Steven 
> >  Edwards think about asking some companys like IBM, Intel, AMD, 
> >  nVIDIA, ATI, Dell,... to support our project.
> >
> >  There are a lot of ways, they could support us, either by money, or 
> >  by developers, or by knowledge/documentations.
> >  Every of the mentioned companys would be able to support us, but I 
> >  think the only person who has the right to ask any of them is our PC, 
> >  or maybe somebody he authorized to do so.
> >
> >  I'm waiting for your replies.
> >
> >  Greets,
> >
> >  David Hinz
> >
> >  BTW, the mail I mentioned above is 
> >  http://www.reactos.org/archives/public/ros-dev/2005-December/006645.html
> >  _______________________________________________
> >  Ros-dev mailing list
> >  Ros-dev(a)reactos.org
> >  http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
> >
> >  
>  _______________________________________________
>  Ros-dev mailing list
>  Ros-dev(a)reactos.org
>  http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
>

[David Hinz]

Looks interesting, but it's not exactly what we need. Our problem is, 
that we have to complete the apis, otherwise we will be like linux, 
where you can't get drivers for every hardware.
We want to be binary compatible to drivers and applications designed for 
Windows NT.
But we could maybe include this driver in ReactOS, as it is designed for 
Mesa, and if I remeber right, we are using mesa, but I'm not sure about 
that.

Greets,

David Hinz

Christian Lund Hansen schrieb:
>   someone was talking about ATi drivers or something
> like that.. i just 
>  bumped into this little project. dont know if this link is any help, if 
>  not, please regard this mail :)
>  
>  http://r300.sourceforge.net/R300.php
>  
> > >   A lot of
> > > people seem to be very interested in this, but after some 
> > >  days, I noticed that there are nearly no devs who replied to my mail, 
> > >  or the numerous replies on it.
> > >  So what I'm asking for is how the devs and especially our PC Steven 
> > >  Edwards think about asking some companys like IBM, Intel, AMD, 
> > >  nVIDIA, ATI, Dell,... to support our project.
> > >
> > >  There are a lot of ways, they could support us, either by money, or 
> > >  by developers, or by knowledge/documentations.
> > >  Every of the mentioned companys would be able to support us, but I 
> > >  think the only person who has the right to ask any of them is our PC, 
> > >  or maybe somebody he authorized to do so.
> > >
> > >  I'm waiting for your replies.
> > >
> > >  Greets,
> > >
> > >  David Hinz
> > >
> > >  BTW, the mail I mentioned above is 
> > >  http://www.reactos.org/archives/public/ros-dev/2005-December/006645.html
> > >  _______________________________________________
> > >  Ros-dev mailing list
> > >  Ros-dev(a)reactos.org
> > >  http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
> > >
> > >  
> >  _______________________________________________
> >  Ros-dev mailing list
> >  Ros-dev(a)reactos.org
> >  http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
> >  
>  
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>

[Ged Murphy]

David Hinz wrote:
>  
>  So what I'm asking for is how the devs and especially our PC Steven 
>  Edwards think about asking some companys like IBM, Intel, AMD, nVIDIA, 
>  ATI, Dell,... to support our project.
>
>  I'm waiting for your replies.
>  
Some efforts have been made, and some feedback has been received.
However it's probably still a little early for this yet.
We don't have much to offer by way of a stable, usable platform just yet.

Some large corporations are aware of the project though. We haven't gone 
unnoticed

Maybe 2006 will be ReactOS' year.

Ged.

[David Hinz]

Ged Murphy schrieb:
>   David Hinz wrote:
> >  
> >  So what I'm asking for is how the devs and especially our PC Steven 
> >  Edwards think about asking some companys like IBM, Intel, AMD, nVIDIA, 
> >  ATI, Dell,... to support our project.
> >
> >  I'm waiting for your replies.
> >  
>  
>  Some efforts have been made, and some feedback has been received.
>  However it's probably still a little early for this yet.
>  We don't have much to offer by way of a stable, usable platform just yet. 
And that's why we need the support of such companies. The ones I 
mentioned above are all companies that could help us stabilising ReactOS 
and completing the APIs, other companys like Google might be the ones, 
we should ask later, but even they could start supporting us, as they 
are MSs main enemy and don't have any risks, they don't have anything, 
where they really need Microsoft, but they could benefit of such a 
relationship with us.
>   
>  Some large corporations are aware of the project though. We haven't gone 
>  unnoticed
>  
>  Maybe 2006 will be ReactOS' year. 
Let's hope that, maybe we can get ReactOS
usable for home-usage before 
Vista is ready (who knows when it will be released, MS never released 
something by the time the release was expected...), but that would be 
very hard....
>   
>  Ged. 
Greets,

David Hinz
>   
>  
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[Steven Edwards]

Hi,

On 12/8/05, David Hinz <post.center(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>   So what I'm asking for is how the devs and
> especially our PC Steven
>  Edwards think about asking some companys like IBM, Intel, AMD, nVIDIA,
>  ATI, Dell,... to support our project. 
The issue is finding the correct people in said company. Even then
they all have deals and depend on Microsoft so direct help is out of
the question at this point. Hardware and software donations as well as
small grants are possible but I would not look for any help from any
major player until smaller business has been able to make some money
around ReactOS. Once a small company is able to make a few bucks off
of it then the big boys will want to jump in on the action and turn it
in to a Holy War agenst Microsoft as well. Also lets try to please
take discussions like this to ros-general.

--
Steven Edwards - ReactOS and Wine developer

"There is one thing stronger than all the armies in the world, and
that is an idea whose time has come." - Victor Hugo