0.2.7?

[WaxDragon]

I would like to see a 0.2.7 release soon.  0.3.0 is getting closer
every day, but it's not there yet IMHO.  On the other hand, we have
had lots of big patches from Mr. Ionescu (and others), major changes,
go in and appear to be stable since we have released 0.2.6.  I would
like to see us have another release in this lull, instead of having a
release right after committing a pile of patches *right before* the
release like we did with 0.2.6.

I know it's been less than a month since 0.2.6, but my the time we
branch and do a couple RC's, it will have been over a month.

I just have this feeling that we miss some regressions from release to
release, since alot of us just use HEAD on a regular basis?

Just my $0.2US
WD
-- 
"<tinus_> and also win32k should be fixed up a bit"

[Gedi]

WaxDragon wrote:

>  I would like to see a 0.2.7 release soon.  0.3.0 is
> getting closer
> every day, but it's not there yet IMHO.  On the other hand, we have
> had lots of big patches from Mr. Ionescu (and others), major changes,
> go in and appear to be stable since we have released 0.2.6.  I would
> like to see us have another release in this lull, instead of having a
> release right after committing a pile of patches *right before* the
> release like we did with 0.2.6.
>
> I know it's been less than a month since 0.2.6, but my the time we
> branch and do a couple RC's, it will have been over a month.
>
> I just have this feeling that we miss some regressions from release to
> release, since alot of us just use HEAD on a regular basis?
>
> Just my $0.2US
> WD
>   
>  
I agree with WD. At this early stage in development, releases attract 
good attention.
You can never have too much good attention, thus I think minor releases 
should be a little more regular if possible, perhaps once a month. It's 
no different than Microsoft releasing patches for their operating 
systems once a month, only we have to release the full package. (until 
some sort of update feature is implemented)

I understand that there is no obvious change to the end user, but the 
change logs will speak for themselves.

Regards,
Ged

[Jeff Smith]

Just curious, how long do you expect it to be b4 we release 0.3.0?

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Subject: Re: [ros-dev] 0.2.7?

WaxDragon wrote:

>  I would like to see a 0.2.7 release soon.  0.3.0 is
> getting closer
> every day, but it's not there yet IMHO.  On the other hand, we have
> had lots of big patches from Mr. Ionescu (and others), major changes,
> go in and appear to be stable since we have released 0.2.6.  I would
> like to see us have another release in this lull, instead of having a
> release right after committing a pile of patches *right before* the
> release like we did with 0.2.6.
>
> I know it's been less than a month since 0.2.6, but my the time we
> branch and do a couple RC's, it will have been over a month.
>
> I just have this feeling that we miss some regressions from release to
> release, since alot of us just use HEAD on a regular basis?
>
> Just my $0.2US
> WD
>   
>  
I agree with WD. At this early stage in development, releases attract 
good attention.
You can never have too much good attention, thus I think minor releases 
should be a little more regular if possible, perhaps once a month. It's 
no different than Microsoft releasing patches for their operating 
systems once a month, only we have to release the full package. (until 
some sort of update feature is implemented)

I understand that there is no obvious change to the end user, but the 
change logs will speak for themselves.

Regards,
Ged
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[Gedi]

Jeff Smith wrote:

>  Just curious, how long do you expect it to be b4 we
> release 0.3.0?
>   
>  
We were talking about this the other day. It was suggested July.
I think this is far too long for users to wait, they need to be kept excited

Ged.

Hi
I think we should wait until 0.3.0 are ready.
and I do not see any real reason to make 0.2.7 release.


Quoting WaxDragon <waxdragon(a)gmail.com>om>:

>   I would like to see a 0.2.7 release soon.  0.3.0 is
> getting closer
>  every day, but it's not there yet IMHO.  On the other hand, we have
>  had lots of big patches from Mr. Ionescu (and others), major changes,
>  go in and appear to be stable since we have released 0.2.6.  I would
>  like to see us have another release in this lull, instead of having a
>  release right after committing a pile of patches *right before* the
>  release like we did with 0.2.6.
>
>  I know it's been less than a month since 0.2.6, but my the time we
>  branch and do a couple RC's, it will have been over a month.
>
>  I just have this feeling that we miss some regressions from release to
>  release, since alot of us just use HEAD on a regular basis?
>
>  Just my $0.2US
>  WD
>  --
>  "<tinus_> and also win32k should be fixed up a bit"
>
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[Michael B. Trausch]

magnus(a)itkonsult-olsen.com wrote:
>   Hi
>  I think we should wait until 0.3.0 are ready.
>  and I do not see any real reason to make 0.2.7 release.
>   
I agree with WaxDragon in that 0.2.7 would be good.  It's good to have
more frequent milestones that the public can see, and since people have
been mailing in about it (refer back to the posts that Jason Filby
forwarded here to the dev list) people *are* watching it.

More releases make sense because it keeps people interested.  As more
things work, people will go, "Look at how cool this is!" and when things
grow nearer to a point of completion for a 1.0 release, more people will
be using it, because it started out at something "cool!" and then they'd
be using it because they know about it because they were told by someone
who was excited by it.

That's theoretical, mind, but it's very likely.  Also, more frequent
releases can mean more coverage by media, which is also good -- serves
to get the name out there.  The more people that there are interested in
it, the more that may help to develop it, the more that will test and
use it, the more that will help provide information on it, and so forth.

I think it'd be beneficial.

	- Mike

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[Gge]

WaxDragon wrote:
>   I would like to see a 0.2.7 release soon.  0.3.0 is
> getting closer
>  every day, but it's not there yet IMHO.  On the other hand, we have
>  had lots of big patches from Mr. Ionescu (and others), major changes,
>  go in and appear to be stable since we have released 0.2.6.  I would
>  like to see us have another release in this lull, instead of having a
>  release right after committing a pile of patches *right before* the
>  release like we did with 0.2.6.
>  
>  I know it's been less than a month since 0.2.6, but my the time we
>  branch and do a couple RC's, it will have been over a month.
>  
>  I just have this feeling that we miss some regressions from release to
>  release, since alot of us just use HEAD on a regular basis?
>  
>  Just my $0.2US
>  WD 
Just to inform reactos users with nic RealTek8139 in real hardware that 
actually networking is broken ( Bug603) .
Looks like I am the only one with this problem ?

Regards
Gerard

[WaxDragon]

Gge, I am running 14819 on real hardware with a rtl8139.  Both
'ipconfig' and 'route print' hang (just like under qemu), but I can
ping google and ftp to ftp.gnu.org.

I'm running DBG+KDB here, what driver are you using for you 8139?

WD
-- 
"<tinus_> and also win32k should be fixed up a bit"

[Gge]

WaxDragon wrote:

>   Gge, I am running 14819 on real hardware with a
> rtl8139.  Both
>  'ipconfig' and 'route print' hang (just like under qemu), but I can
>  ping google and ftp to ftp.gnu.org.
>  
>  I'm running DBG+KDB here, what driver are you using for you 8139?
>  
>  WD 
Here is the driver version :   5.396.530.2001

Gge

[Robert Köpferl]

Let's put it like this:

currently we're making release ca. every 3 months.
I would be also comfortable with making a release every 2 month, but not 
every 1 month. At least not now.

WaxDragon wrote:
>   I would like to see a 0.2.7 release soon.  0.3.0 is
> getting closer
>  every day, but it's not there yet IMHO.  On the other hand, we have
>  had lots of big patches from Mr. Ionescu (and others), major changes,
>  go in and appear to be stable since we have released 0.2.6.  I would
>  like to see us have another release in this lull, instead of having a
>  release right after committing a pile of patches *right before* the
>  release like we did with 0.2.6.
>  
>  I know it's been less than a month since 0.2.6, but my the time we
>  branch and do a couple RC's, it will have been over a month.
>  
>  I just have this feeling that we miss some regressions from release to
>  release, since alot of us just use HEAD on a regular basis?
>  
>  Just my $0.2US
>  WD