Re: [ros-dev] True multiuser support?

[WaxDragon]

Where is my Server core style command prompt login?  Screw explorer.  Oh,
and I want RDP. ;0p

On Oct 27, 2010 4:18 PM, "Adam Kachwalla" <geekdundee(a)gmail.com> wrote:

We need to first fix up the logon screen. I have tried this, except the
problem lies with CreateDesktop() not wanting to create more than one
desktop within the Winlogon process.

At this stage, the logon/logoff functionality does not work at all, and some
processes still linger about.

It appears explorer shell is one of them.



On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 02:22:36 +1100, Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo <
elhoir(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>   H... 
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[Jan Blomqvist Kinander]

Hi guys, this is one feature that is really important, if you want to try it out on Win
systems google for "UniversalTermsrvPatch_20090425" and download and install
that patch and you'll have multiple concurrent terminal service enabled OS for you to
test functionallity.  
If you have a Domain connected PC you also need to set registry values for Terminal
Services every time you log in or MS resets the disability.

use this bat for that:
>  >> 
"enable concurrent remote
sessions.bat"
@REG ADD "HKLM\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Terminal Server\Licensing Core" /v
EnableConcurrentSessions /d 1 /t REG_DWORD /f >nul
@REG ADD "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon" /v
EnableConcurrentSessions /d 1 /t REG_DWORD /f > nul
@REG ADD "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon" /v
AllowMultipleTSSessions  /d 1 /t REG_DWORD /f > nul
<<<
Make a sceduled run using “Windows Task Scheduler” and make it to run every login and
you'll set to have your workstation abled to host many users at the same time.

Now you can RDP in with all your localusers(under remote sessions)/ domain users. I use it
to be able to administer our workstations without the need for destrubing the users.

We really need this functionallity however the priority isn't on this function yet,
but if someone wants to have a look at it you should start by reading
http://www.reactos.org/wiki/ReactOS_Terminal_Services and go from there.

I have tried XRDP on Ubuntu 10.04 lte (use aptitude to install), and it works really well,
I think it uses VNC as backplane and in that case we shouldn't have any problems using
that as a start for RDP support what ever backplane we choose to use.

/Jaix Bly

>   Where is my Server core style command prompt login? 
> Screw explorer.  Oh,
>  and I want RDP. ;0p
>  
>  On Oct 27, 2010 4:18 PM, "Adam Kachwalla" &lt;geekdundee(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  
>  We need to first fix up the logon screen. I have tried this, except the
>  problem lies with CreateDesktop() not wanting to create more than one
>  desktop within the Winlogon process.
>  
>  At this stage, the logon/logoff functionality does not work at all, and some
>  processes still linger about.
>  
>  It appears explorer shell is one of them.
>  
>  
>  
>  On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 02:22:36 +1100, Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo <
>  elhoir(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  
> >   H... 
>  -- 
>  Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day.
>  Teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime.
>  Give a man religion and he will die praying for a fish.
>  
>  
>  
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[Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo]

...and thats the 1st issue...

how would VNC clients deal with existing sessions?
i work with VNC a lot, and i just have to type computer name or IP address
to control a remote computer.. because that  computer only has 1 user logged
in...
how would ReactOS deal with VNC, if there are multiple user logged in the
system? will this break compatibility with Windows?

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Jan Blomqvist Kinander <
jan.blomqvist(a)reactos.org&gt; wrote:

>  
>  Hi guys, this is one feature that is really important, if you want to try
>  it out on Win systems google for "UniversalTermsrvPatch_20090425" and
>  download and install that patch and you'll have multiple concurrent terminal
>  service enabled OS for you to test functionallity.
>  If you have a Domain connected PC you also need to set registry values for
>  Terminal Services every time you log in or MS resets the disability.
>
>  use this bat for that:
> >  >> 
>  "enable concurrent remote
> sessions.bat"
>  @REG ADD "HKLM\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Terminal Server\Licensing Core"
>  /v EnableConcurrentSessions /d 1 /t REG_DWORD /f >nul
>  @REG ADD "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon" /v
>  EnableConcurrentSessions /d 1 /t REG_DWORD /f > nul
>  @REG ADD "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon" /v
>  AllowMultipleTSSessions  /d 1 /t REG_DWORD /f > nul
>  <<<
>  Make a sceduled run using “Windows Task Scheduler” and make it to run every
>  login and you'll set to have your workstation abled to host many users at
>  the same time.
>
>  Now you can RDP in with all your localusers(under remote sessions)/ domain
>  users. I use it to be able to administer our workstations without the need
>  for destrubing the users.
>
>  We really need this functionallity however the priority isn't on this
>  function yet, but if someone wants to have a look at it you should start by
>  reading http://www.reactos.org/wiki/ReactOS_Terminal_Services and go from
>  there.
>
>  I have tried XRDP on Ubuntu 10.04 lte (use aptitude to install), and it
>  works really well, I think it uses VNC as backplane and in that case we
>  shouldn't have any problems using that as a start for RDP support what ever
>  backplane we choose to use.
>
>  /Jaix Bly
>
> >   Where is my Server core style command prompt
> > login?  Screw explorer.  Oh,
> >  and I want RDP. ;0p
> >
> >  On Oct 27, 2010 4:18 PM, "Adam Kachwalla" &lt;geekdundee(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
> >
> >  We need to first fix up the logon screen. I have tried this, except the
> >  problem lies with CreateDesktop() not wanting to create more than one
> >  desktop within the Winlogon process.
> >
> >  At this stage, the logon/logoff functionality does not work at all, and 
>  some
> >   processes still linger about.
> >
> >  It appears explorer shell is one of them.
> >
> >
> >
> >  On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 02:22:36 +1100, Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo <
> >  elhoir(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
> >
> > >   H... 
> >  --
> >  Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day.
> >  Teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime.
> >  Give a man religion and he will die praying for a fish.
> >
> >
> >
> >  _______________________________________________
> >  Ros-dev mailing list
> >  Ros-dev(a)reactos.org
> >  http://ww...
> >  _______________________________________________
> >  Ros-dev mailing list
> >  Ros-dev(a)reactos.org
> >  http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev 
>
>
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>

[Jan Blomqvist Kinander]

Nope, no issue, in XRDP you can choose where to connect, so multi-user-environment is
still supported with it even if VNC is the backplane. Now I havn't dug deep in it, but
it works nicely with both loged in accounts and new logins.

ReactOS just needs to support multiple log-ins and port XRDP for the same look and feel.

/Jaix

>   ...and thats the 1st issue...
>  
>  how would VNC clients deal with existing sessions?
>  i work with VNC a lot, and i just have to type computer name or IP address
>  to control a remote computer.. because that  computer only has 1 user logged
>  in...
>  how would ReactOS deal with VNC, if there are multiple user logged in the
>  system? will this break compatibility with Windows?
>  
>  On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Jan Blomqvist Kinander <
>  jan.blomqvist(a)reactos.org&gt; wrote:
>  
> >  
> >  Hi guys, this is one feature that is really important, if you want to try
> >  it out on Win systems google for "UniversalTermsrvPatch_20090425" and
> >  download and install that patch and you'll have multiple concurrent terminal
> >  service enabled OS for you to test functionallity.
> >  If you have a Domain connected PC you also need to set registry values for
> >  Terminal Services every time you log in or MS resets the disability.
> >
> >  use this bat for that:
> > >  >> 
> >  "enable concurrent remote
> > sessions.bat"
> >  @REG ADD "HKLM\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Terminal Server\Licensing Core"
> >  /v EnableConcurrentSessions /d 1 /t REG_DWORD /f >nul
> >  @REG ADD "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon" /v
> >  EnableConcurrentSessions /d 1 /t REG_DWORD /f > nul
> >  @REG ADD "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon" /v
> >  AllowMultipleTSSessions  /d 1 /t REG_DWORD /f > nul
> >  <<<
> >  Make a sceduled run using “Windows Task Scheduler” and make it to run every
> >  login and you'll set to have your workstation abled to host many users at
> >  the same time.
> >
> >  Now you can RDP in with all your localusers(under remote sessions)/ domain
> >  users. I use it to be able to administer our workstations without the need
> >  for destrubing the users.
> >
> >  We really need this functionallity however the priority isn't on this
> >  function yet, but if someone wants to have a look at it you should start by
> >  reading http://www.reactos.org/wiki/ReactOS_Terminal_Services and go from
> >  there.
> >
> >  I have tried XRDP on Ubuntu 10.04 lte (use aptitude to install), and it
> >  works really well, I think it uses VNC as backplane and in that case we
> >  shouldn't have any problems using that as a start for RDP support what ever
> >  backplane we choose to use.
> >
> >  /Jaix Bly
> >
> > >   Where is my Server core style command prompt
> > > login?  Screw explorer.  Oh,
> > >  and I want RDP. ;0p
> > >
> > >  On Oct 27, 2010 4:18 PM, "Adam Kachwalla" &lt;geekdundee(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
> > >
> > >  We need to first fix up the logon screen. I have tried this, except the
> > >  problem lies with CreateDesktop() not wanting to create more than one
> > >  desktop within the Winlogon process.
> > >
> > >  At this stage, the logon/logoff functionality does not work at all, and 
> >  some
> > >   processes still linger about.
> > >
> > >  It appears explorer shell is one of them.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 02:22:36 +1100, Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo <
> > >  elhoir(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
> > >
> > > >   H... 
> > >  --
> > >  Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day.
> > >  Teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime.
> > >  Give a man religion and he will die praying for a fish.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  _______________________________________________
> > >  Ros-dev mailing list
> > >  Ros-dev(a)reactos.org
> > >  http://ww...
> > >  _______________________________________________
> > >  Ros-dev mailing list
> > >  Ros-dev(a)reactos.org
> > >  http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev 
> >
> >
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> >  
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