Freedom

[James Tabor]

Hi,
I want ReactOS to become free again. From gnu.org,

Free software is a matter of the users' freedom to run, copy, distribute, study,
change and improve 
the software. More precisely, it refers to four kinds of freedom, for the users of the
software:

* The freedom to run the program, for any purpose (freedom 0).
* The freedom to study how the program works, and adapt it to your needs (freedom 1).
Access to 
   the source code is a precondition for this.
* The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbor (freedom 2).
* The freedom to improve the program, and release your improvements to the public, so that
the whole 
community benefits (freedom 3). Access to the source code is a precondition for this.

We forget what this is all about. We need to be liberated from the shackles and chains.


Replace "Tainted Developers" with this:

Referring to Proprietary Programs:
Don't in any circumstances refer to any closed source proprietary code for or during
your work on 
ReactOS! (Or to any other proprietary programs, Unix, Novel, Solaris, Microsoft,.)
If you have a vague recollection of the internals of a closed source program, this does
not 
absolutely mean you can't write an imitation of it, but do try to organize the
imitation internally 
along different lines, because this is likely to make the details of the software version
irrelevant 
and dissimilar to your results.

It's from:
http://www.gnu.org/prep/standards/html_node/Reading-Non_002dFree-Code.html#…

If is good for FSF/GNU it's good enough for us. I don't think we need to vote on
this, just
change it! Remember this is GNU/ReactOS! Not SFLC/Wine!


Thanks,
James

[David Johnson]

Love it!
On Aug 16, 2007, at 7:48 AM, James Tabor wrote:

>   Hi,
>  I want ReactOS to become free again. From gnu.org,
>
>  Free software is a matter of the users' freedom to run, copy,  
>  distribute, study, change and improve
>  the software. More precisely, it refers to four kinds of freedom,  
>  for the users of the software:
>
>  * The freedom to run the program, for any purpose (freedom 0).
>  * The freedom to study how the program works, and adapt it to your  
>  needs (freedom 1). Access to
>     the source code is a precondition for this.
>  * The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbor  
>  (freedom 2).
>  * The freedom to improve the program, and release your improvements  
>  to the public, so that the whole
>  community benefits (freedom 3). Access to the source code is a  
>  precondition for this.
>
>  We forget what this is all about. We need to be liberated from the  
>  shackles and chains.
>
>
>  Replace "Tainted Developers" with this:
>
>  Referring to Proprietary Programs:
>  Don't in any circumstances refer to any closed source proprietary  
>  code for or during your work on
>  ReactOS! (Or to any other proprietary programs, Unix, Novel,  
>  Solaris, Microsoft,.)
>  If you have a vague recollection of the internals of a closed  
>  source program, this does not
>  absolutely mean you can't write an imitation of it, but do try to  
>  organize the imitation internally
>  along different lines, because this is likely to make the details  
>  of the software version irrelevant
>  and dissimilar to your results.
>
>  It's from:
>  http://www.gnu.org/prep/standards/html_node/Reading-Non_002dFree- 
>  Code.html#Reading-Non_002dFree-Code
>
>  If is good for FSF/GNU it's good enough for us. I don't think we  
>  need to vote on this, just
>  change it! Remember this is GNU/ReactOS! Not SFLC/Wine!
>
>
>  Thanks,
>  James
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[Peter Dolding]

Minor disagreement on current form of freedom's.
There need to be a (freedom 4).  The freedom from source fanaticism.   
How every you want to word it.  The idea Microsoft released X code under 
a usable license to all that we cannot use it because Microsoft made it 
is a unworkable idea for Reactos.  So something against it is need in 
the freedoms.   The Microsoft one is the one that has been targeted but 
they could target any other code maker that someone hates too.

Freedom from undocumented accusations is most likely pushing things too 
far in the freedom's.

Peter Dolding
David Johnson wrote:
>   Love it!
>  On Aug 16, 2007, at 7:48 AM, James Tabor wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > I want ReactOS to become free again. From gnu.org,
> >
> > Free software is a matter of the users' freedom to run, copy, 
> > distribute, study, change and improve 
> > the software. More precisely, it refers to four kinds of freedom, for 
> > the users of the software:
> >
> > * The freedom to run the program, for any purpose (freedom 0).
> > * The freedom to study how the program works, and adapt it to your 
> > needs (freedom 1). Access to 
> >    the source code is a precondition for this.
> > * The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbor 
> > (freedom 2).
> > * The freedom to improve the program, and release your improvements 
> > to the public, so that the whole 
> > community benefits (freedom 3). Access to the source code is a 
> > precondition for this.
> >
> > We forget what this is all about. We need to be liberated from the 
> > shackles and chains.
> >
> >
> > Replace "Tainted Developers" with this:
> >
> > Referring to Proprietary Programs:
> > Don't in any circumstances refer to any closed source proprietary 
> > code for or during your work on 
> > ReactOS! (Or to any other proprietary programs, Unix, Novel, Solaris, 
> > Microsoft,.)
> > If you have a vague recollection of the internals of a closed source 
> > program, this does not 
> > absolutely mean you can't write an imitation of it, but do try to 
> > organize the imitation internally 
> > along different lines, because this is likely to make the details of 
> > the software version irrelevant 
> > and dissimilar to your results.
> >
> > It's from:
> >
> http://www.gnu.org/prep/standards/html_node/Reading-Non_002dFree-Code.html#…
> >
> > If is good for FSF/GNU it's good enough for us. I don't think we need 
> > to vote on this, just
> > change it! Remember this is GNU/ReactOS! Not SFLC/Wine!
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > James
> > _______________________________________________
> > Ros-dev mailing list
> > Ros-dev(a)reactos.org <mailto:[e-mail]>
> > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev 
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