RE: 18273: create some start menu entries for notepad, regedit and winefile

[Ge van Geldorp]

>   From: mf(a)svn.reactos.com
>  
>  create some start menu entries for notepad, regedit and winefile 
Do we really need/want the winefile link on the desktop? Especially since it
is also present in the start menu now. If I recall correctly, the Command
Prompt was put on the desktop 'cause at the time it was the only viable way
to start programs, I think maybe even the Command Prompt link could go from
the desktop now.

Gé van Geldorp.

[Martin Fuchs]

>   Do we really need/want the winefile link on the
> desktop? Especially since it
>  is also present in the start menu now. If I recall correctly, the Command
>  Prompt was put on the desktop 'cause at the time it was the only viable way
>  to start programs, I think maybe even the Command Prompt link could go from
>  the desktop now. 
If you want, you can comment out the two desktop shell links. The
start menu may be seen as enough. But I think the desktop is big
enough to hold some convenient shortcuts. Just another thing, where
there is no "correct way" per definition. Personally I never
understood why MS removed all icons but the recycle bin from the
default desktop in XP.

Regards,

     Martin

[Max Well]

I think the icon for the command prompt should stay on the desktop,
because at the moment it is an very often used application.
And as Martin said, the desktop is big enough...

David

2005/10/9, Martin Fuchs <fuchs.martin(a)gmail.com>om>:
> >   Do we really
> > need/want the winefile link on the desktop? Especially since it
> >  is also present in the start menu now. If I recall correctly, the Command
> >  Prompt was put on the desktop 'cause at the time it was the only viable way
> >  to start programs, I think maybe even the Command Prompt link could go from
> >  the desktop now. 
>  If you want, you can comment out the two desktop shell links. The
>  start menu may be seen as enough. But I think the desktop is big
>  enough to hold some convenient shortcuts. Just another thing, where
>  there is no "correct way" per definition. Personally I never
>  understood why MS removed all icons but the recycle bin from the
>  default desktop in XP.
>
>  Regards,
>
>       Martin
>
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[Magnus Olsen]

The reson is it take memory to have shortcout on desktop.
if the icon is 800K it will requert 800K of u computer memmory
if u put a file say 100MB it will requert 100MB extrea memory
for everthing that is on the desktop is uploading to the system memmory.

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From: "Martin Fuchs" <fuchs.martin(a)gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [ros-dev] RE: 18273: create some start menu entries for
notepad,regedit and winefile


>   > Do we really need/want the winefile link on the
> desktop? Especially 
since it
>   > is also present in the start menu now. If I
> recall correctly, the 
Command
>   > Prompt was put on the desktop 'cause at the
> time it was the only viable 
way
>   > to start programs, I think maybe even the Command
> Prompt link could go 
from
> >   the desktop
> > now. 
>  If you want, you can comment out the two desktop shell links. The
>  start menu may be seen as enough. But I think the desktop is big
>  enough to hold some convenient shortcuts. Just another thing, where
>  there is no "correct way" per definition. Personally I never
>  understood why MS removed all icons but the recycle bin from the
>  default desktop in XP.
>
>  Regards,
>
>       Martin
>
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[Emanuele Aliberti]

Hi Gé,

first of all, thank you for your reports from the LW London and for 
being there.

As, by design, ROS' goal is not disrupting the desktop experience users 
had from MS Windows flavours, there should be probably
- Explorer
- (Network)
- IExplorer (or equivalent web explorer)
- Recycle bin

Ge van Geldorp wrote:

> >  From:
> > mf(a)svn.reactos.com
> >
> > create some start menu entries for notepad, regedit and winefile
> >     
> >  
> Do we really need/want the winefile link on the desktop? Especially since it
> is also present in the start menu now. If I recall correctly, the Command
> Prompt was put on the desktop 'cause at the time it was the only viable way
> to start programs, I think maybe even the Command Prompt link could go from
> the desktop now.
>
> Gé van Geldorp.
>   
>  
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[TwoTailedFox]

@Magnus

Since when did an Icon take 800k of space? Most icons I've seen take
between 1k and 3k of space.

On 10/9/05, Emanuele Aliberti <ea(a)iol.it> wrote:
>   Hi Gé,
>
>  first of all, thank you for your reports from the LW London and for
>  being there.
>
>  As, by design, ROS' goal is not disrupting the desktop experience users
>  had from MS Windows flavours, there should be probably
>  - Explorer
>  - (Network)
>  - IExplorer (or equivalent web explorer)
>  - Recycle bin
>
>  Ge van Geldorp wrote:
>
> > >  From:
> > > mf(a)svn.reactos.com
> > >
> > > create some start menu entries for notepad, regedit and winefile
> > >
> > >  
> > Do we really need/want the winefile link on the desktop? Especially since it
> > is also present in the start menu now. If I recall correctly, the Command
> > Prompt was put on the desktop 'cause at the time it was the only viable way
> > to start programs, I think maybe even the Command Prompt link could go from
> > the desktop now.
> >
> > Gé van Geldorp.
> >
> >  
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[Emanuele Aliberti]

I am not against icons. I was talking about ergonomics and previous 
usage of a product.

Perhaps, in the second stage setup, we could put a checkbox:

[ ] Add as many icons as you can on the desktop.


TwoTailedFox wrote:

>  @Magnus
>
> Since when did an Icon take 800k of space? Most icons I've seen take
> between 1k and 3k of space.
>
> On 10/9/05, Emanuele Aliberti <ea(a)iol.it> wrote:
>   
>
> >Hi Gé,
> >
> >first of all, thank you for your reports from the LW London and for
> >being there.
> >
> >As, by design, ROS' goal is not disrupting the desktop experience users
> >had from MS Windows flavours, there should be probably
> >- Explorer
> >- (Network)
> >- IExplorer (or equivalent web explorer)
> >- Recycle bin
> >
> >    
> > 
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[Magnus Olsen]

I am not ageinst icon, But I feel it should be a choice to have more that
rescue bin and my computer icons, I do not like see the network icon on the
desktop in windows. But I feel it need be a choice if u want it or not.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Emanuele Aliberti" <ea(a)iol.it>
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Sent: den 9 October 2005 15:10
Subject: Re: [ros-dev] RE: 18273: create some start menu entries for
notepad, regedit and winefile


I am not against icons. I was talking about ergonomics and previous
usage of a product.

Perhaps, in the second stage setup, we could put a checkbox:

[ ] Add as many icons as you can on the desktop.


TwoTailedFox wrote:

>  @Magnus
>
> Since when did an Icon take 800k of space? Most icons I've seen take
> between 1k and 3k of space.
>
> On 10/9/05, Emanuele Aliberti <ea(a)iol.it> wrote:
>
>
> >Hi Gé,
> >
> >first of all, thank you for your reports from the LW London and for
> >being there.
> >
> >As, by design, ROS' goal is not disrupting the desktop experience users
> >had from MS Windows flavours, there should be probably
> >- Explorer
> >- (Network)
> >- IExplorer (or equivalent web explorer)
> >- Recycle bin
> >
> >
> > 
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[Magnus Olsen]

It was a exmple most iocn is 8K  but  u need a icon for each res and color
deep
u got 8/16/24/32 bpp u need make icon for then and also  make a  icon for
640x480 800x600 1024x768 1280xXXX and so on, it will end up
with more that 8K. all these icon are being upload to memmory

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Subject: Re: [ros-dev] RE: 18273: create some start menu entries for
notepad,regedit and winefile


@Magnus

Since when did an Icon take 800k of space? Most icons I've seen take
between 1k and 3k of space.

On 10/9/05, Emanuele Aliberti <ea(a)iol.it> wrote:
>   Hi Gé,
>
>  first of all, thank you for your reports from the LW London and for
>  being there.
>
>  As, by design, ROS' goal is not disrupting the desktop experience users
>  had from MS Windows flavours, there should be probably
>  - Explorer
>  - (Network)
>  - IExplorer (or equivalent web explorer)
>  - Recycle bin
>
>  Ge van Geldorp wrote:
>
>  >>From: mf(a)svn.reactos.com
>  >>
>  >>create some start menu entries for notepad, regedit and winefile
>  >>
>  >>
>  >
>  >Do we really need/want the winefile link on the desktop? Especially since 
it
>   >is also present in the start menu now. If I recall
> correctly, the Command
>  >Prompt was put on the desktop 'cause at the time it was the only viable
way
>   >to start programs, I think maybe even the Command
> Prompt link could go 
from
> >  the desktop
> > now.
> >
> > Gé van Geldorp.
> >
> >  
>  --
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>
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[WaxDragon]

I dislike the winefile link, I think "My Computer" and "Command
Prompt" are all this is needed.

On 10/9/05, Ge van Geldorp <gvg(a)reactos.org> wrote:
> >   From:
> > mf(a)svn.reactos.com
> >
> >  create some start menu entries for notepad, regedit and winefile 
>  Do we really need/want the winefile link on the desktop? Especially since it
>  is also present in the start menu now. If I recall correctly, the Command
>  Prompt was put on the desktop 'cause at the time it was the only viable way
>  to start programs, I think maybe even the Command Prompt link could go from
>  the desktop now.
>
>  Gé van Geldorp.
>
>
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