Fwd: [ros-web] Re: Interface Team

[Jason Filby]

I just noticed that this was sent to ros-web only.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Mikko Tikkanen <mikko.tikkanen(a)gmail.com>
Date: May 16, 2005 10:48 PM
Subject: [ros-web] Re: Interface Team
To: ros-web(a)reactos.com


Greetings.

I am the other half of Jason's "list", the half that (usually)
responds to the name Mikko.

Something about me: I've seen 25 summers, so far. (a.k.a I'm 25-years
old ;) This summer would be my 26th. Usually my interests include
badminton, rollerskating, bandy, gentle loving of my car (My one and
only honey at the time. Hey, at least she's cheaper than a woman ;),
movies, programming, reading (Usually different articles of various
topics. Specially anything regarding of science.) and some sort of
graphics.

I've studied something that goes like this: Special-vocational degree,
developing network solutions. (Level of studies ranging from quite
basic to university level) Basically it includes designing and
developing specified tools that utilize network in some way. Tools
used included C/C++, Java/JavaScript, PHP. Though I have worked with
VisualBasic, ASP, TCL and some other languages.
Nowdays I mostly work basically with PHP and SQL of some sort.
(Usually with MySQL, Postgre or Oracle) +xhtml & css

Oh, and of course there is High school.

Also, at the fall I'm hoping to get to this school which teaches
interactivity designing. Basically everything ranging from physical UI
design to game-, concept- or web design. However, my aim would to
specialize in UI design. (And, of course, ultimately have my own
company. 8) I've already cleared my way to last ~30 persons, now it's
30% change of getting in. 26th day are final exams and interviews for
the school and after that it's a months wait and results should be
here. Keep your thumbs up! :)


Next to UI related stuff. I've worked, in some way or another, with
www-applications for about 6-8 years. Also I like to educate myself so
I've taken some courses and trainings on it. Also, I was in charge of
design, production and maintaining of information gathering and
analysis tools at Inmet Mining, Pyhäsalmi mine Oy. Europe's deepest
metal ore mine and most technologically advanced mine in the world.
Some of those tools are used by miners who didn't have very much
experience with computers. Hence they needed to be easy to use yet
able to utilize enough power, for experienced user, to dig out every
last piece of information needed, regarding of i.e. certain ore
loading machine.

At my current job (head of sales, at paper. usually I lots of other
things too) I've created complete network-based software for the
shop's check-out. It also includes real time accounting for store,
billing and web-shop. Of course all this is wrapped to single user
interface. Which, sadly, has as good UI as I would like but there are
other matters which keep me busy from re-creating the whole system.

I've always been interested of UI design and have read pretty much
everything I've come across with. Of course, depending of the source.
;) When designing something I've always tried position myself as the
regular user and tried to forget all the "invisible" little helpers
that I am used to, since regular user usually doesn't have a clue.
Moms and dads actually make pretty good user test subjects as they
don't use computers that much but know their way around. ;)

I've also made initial design for a game called Notrium.


Lately I've made some initial mockups for ROS.
For software library:
  http://devnet.dnsalias.net/guidesign/software_library_v2.jpg
And for ROS start menu:
  http://devnet.dnsalias.net/guidesign/start_menu.jpg


Hmm. This turned to another rant, it seems.


 -mikko

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[Mike Nordell]

Jason Filby forwarded Mikko Tikkanen's presentation, containing

>   Lately I've made some initial mockups for ROS.
>  For software library:
>    http://devnet.dnsalias.net/guidesign/software_library_v2.jpg 
Before I cast my vote, I'd like to see some arguments from Mikko and mf
about the design of what that list tries to mimic, especially with respect
to behaviour - that the selected item changes size upon selection. Pro's,
con's, rationale and conclusion could perhaps be a starting point?


Jason, as one of the candidates presentation now turned up late in the
voting period, I think this is grounds for an extension.

/Mike

[Casper Hornstrup]

>   -----Original Message-----
>  From: ros-dev-bounces(a)reactos.com [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Mike
> Nordell
>  Sent: 22. maj 2005 14:19
>  To: ReactOS Development List
>  Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Fwd: [ros-web] Re: Interface Team
>  
>  Jason Filby forwarded Mikko Tikkanen's presentation, containing
>  
> >   Lately I've made some initial mockups for
> > ROS.
> >  For software library:
> >    http://devnet.dnsalias.net/guidesign/software_library_v2.jpg 
>  
>  Before I cast my vote, I'd like to see some arguments from Mikko and mf
>  about the design of what that list tries to mimic, especially with respect
>  to behaviour - that the selected item changes size upon selection. Pro's,
>  con's, rationale and conclusion could perhaps be a starting point?
>   
That is kind of unfair since Mikko created that mockup.

>   Jason, as one of the candidates presentation now
> turned up late in the
>  voting period, I think this is grounds for an extension. 
How much time do you need?

Casper

[Mike Nordell]

Casper Hornstrup wrote:

>   > Before I cast my vote, I'd like to see some
> arguments from Mikko and mf
>  > about the design of what that list tries to mimic, especially with 
respect
>   > to behaviour - that the selected item changes
> size upon selection. 
Pro's,
> >   con's,
> > rationale and conclusion could perhaps be a starting point?
> >  
>  That is kind of unfair since Mikko created that mockup. 
Not if you read it as I intended it to be read "of what that list tries to
mimic". That is Microsofts own design, and has been since 1999-12-07. :-)
Seems I failed badly to make that point.

> >   Jason, as one
> > of the candidates presentation now turned up late in
> >  the voting period, I think this is grounds for an extension. 
>  How much time do you need? 
After exchanging words with them both on IRC now, my vote is for mf.


/Mike

[Alex Ionescu]

Mike Nordell wrote:

>  Casper Hornstrup wrote:
>
>   
>
> >  >Before I cast my vote, I'd like to see
> > some arguments from Mikko and mf
> > >about the design of what that list tries to mimic, especially with
> > >      
> > > 
> respect
>   
>
> >  >to behaviour - that the selected item changes
> > size upon selection.
> > >      
> > > 
> Pro's,
>   
>
> > >  con's,
> > > rationale and conclusion could perhaps be a starting point?
> > >
> > >       
> > >  
> > That is kind of unfair since Mikko created that mockup.
> >     
> >  
> Not if you read it as I intended it to be read "of what that list tries to
> mimic". That is Microsofts own design, and has been since 1999-12-07. :-)
> Seems I failed badly to make that point.
>
>   
>
> > >  Jason, as
> > > one of the candidates presentation now turned up late in
> > > the voting period, I think this is grounds for an extension.
> > >       
> > >  
> > How much time do you need?
> >     
> >  
> After exchanging words with them both on IRC now, my vote is for mf.
>   
>  
In all fairness, you talked with Mikko for 5 minutes as he was preparing 
to sleep ;)

My vote is for mf, but I really want to see Mikko collaborating since 
his website mockup is AMAZING...I love it..and the startmenu looks nice 
too, and the explorer.

>  
> /Mike
>
> ___________________________________
>  
Best regards,
Alex Ionescu

[Jason Filby]

Hi all

The coordinator of the UI team will be mf by popular vote,
congratulations mf! Thanks to Mikko for coming up with the idea to
have a UI team.

I'll go about setting up a ros-ui mailing list. The first order of
business for the UI team is finalizing a new look for the reactos.com
site.

Regards
Jason

[Rick Langschultz]

I think that scheme looks very nice, I would like to see different
categories including:
    Productivity
    File Sharing
    Networking
    Multimedia
    Games and Entertainment
    Programming
    Servers
    Media
    Utilities
    Updates

I think that the current scheme is great don't get me wrong, but I have a
comment about the interface. If ReactOS plans to be an implementation of the
Windows NT Kernel and Environment why not have an implementation of
mshta.exe. Mshta.exe is the underlying process by which Windows knows what
is installed and where to locate those files. If the Software Library could
use a compatible or unique language like it ReactOS would be that much
closer to the Windows Implementation it intends to be.

I also wonder about if ReactOS should start a server release, because
Windows 2000 Servers and 2003 servers also have a different way of dealing
with servers and services run on the local machine.

Just a though.


On 5/22/05 07:19 AM, "Mike Nordell" <tamlin(a)algonet.se> wrote:

>   Jason Filby forwarded Mikko Tikkanen's
> presentation, containing
>  
> >   Lately I've made some initial mockups for
> > ROS.
> >  For software library:
> >    http://devnet.dnsalias.net/guidesign/software_library_v2.jpg 
>  
>  Before I cast my vote, I'd like to see some arguments from Mikko and mf
>  about the design of what that list tries to mimic, especially with respect
>  to behaviour - that the selected item changes size upon selection. Pro's,
>  con's, rationale and conclusion could perhaps be a starting point?
>  
>  
>  Jason, as one of the candidates presentation now turned up late in the
>  voting period, I think this is grounds for an extension.
>  
>  /Mike
>  
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