Re: [ros-svn] [ion] 16175: jingle bells batman smells, robin laid an egg (build rosrtl with NDK)

[Thomas Weidenmueller]

[e-mail] wrote:
> Syssetup has fallen to the dark side

[e-mail] wrote:
> jingle bells batman smells, robin laid an egg (build rosrtl with NDK)

Thanks, very informative, definitely improves the credibility of the
project...

Thomas

[Alex Ionescu]

Thomas Weidenmueller wrote:
> [e-mail] wrote:
> > Syssetup has fallen to the dark side
>
> [e-mail] wrote:
> > jingle bells batman smells, robin laid an egg (build rosrtl with NDK)
>
> Thanks, very informative, definitely improves the credibility of the
> project...

And after telling us this on the IRC Channel, where 90% of the 
developers were, your point of posting this on a public mailing list was?
It's called public defamation, and I think it's childish on your behalf 
(much more then my amusing commit messages which are kept internally to 
our lists).
You've done two things:
    - Posted the commit messages from a list with 30 subscribers to a 
list with 500.
    - Tried to use sarcasm in order to publicaly make fun of me and 
attempting to make a point that I "damage the credibility of the project".

Good job. I ask again, what was the point of posting this here after you 
already told everyone on IRC what you thought?
After you spend 5 sleepless nights fixing the headers, I'll make sure 
not to cut you some slack when you goof off a bit.

Best regards,
Alex Ionescu
> Thomas
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[Thomas Weidenmueller]

Alex Ionescu wrote:
> And after telling us this on the IRC Channel, where 90% of the
> developers were, your point of posting this on a public mailing list was?
> It's called public defamation, and I think it's childish on your behalf
> (much more then my amusing commit messages which are kept internally to
> our lists).

The reason I did this is the second commit which was done _after_ we
discussed the issue. However, I agree with you that it might be childsh
behavior, but I do think the same about the commit messages. I do think
the same about these "dedicated to..." commit messages, but whatever...
> You've done two things:
> Posted the commit messages from a list with 30 subscribers to a
>
> list with 500.
> Tried to use sarcasm in order to publicaly make fun of me and
>
> attempting to make a point that I "damage the credibility of the project".

Sadly, I'm a person who uses sarcasm a lot in real life, so I hereby
apologize, I didn't mean to get people making fun of you.
> Good job. I ask again, what was the point of posting this here after you
> already told everyone on IRC what you thought?

See above.
> After you spend 5 sleepless nights fixing the headers, I'll make sure
> not to cut you some slack when you goof off a bit.

I appreciate the work that you guys have done recently and I'm really
grateful. However, I thought it was clear that these kind of commit
messages are not really appreciated. The point of a commit message has
always been a summarization of the changes that were done. Why not add
jokes into the source code?

On some point I'm thinking about resigning. I certainly have overreacted
sometimes, I've been harsh sometimes and I have a very busy life lately
which makes contributing to ReactOS a bit difficult at the moment.
Because of what happened, I have the feeling that the number of people
who would rather want me see putting my energy into other things is
growing. Again, I'm thinking about it.

So again, I'm sorry for all this, I just was pissed off a little.

Thomas

[Alex Ionescu]

Thomas Weidenmueller wrote:
> I appreciate the work that you guys have done recently and I'm really
> grateful. However, I thought it was clear that these kind of commit
> messages are not really appreciated.

The second one did clearly state the purpose. So I did listen to what 
you said to me.
> The point of a commit message has
> always been a summarization of the changes that were done. Why not add
> jokes into the source code?

I made the mistake once, you told me on IRC, I didn't do it again.
> On some point I'm thinking about resigning. I certainly have overreacted
> sometimes, I've been harsh sometimes and I have a very busy life lately
> which makes contributing to ReactOS a bit difficult at the moment.
> Because of what happened, I have the feeling that the number of people
> who would rather want me see putting my energy into other things is
> growing. Again, I'm thinking about it.
>
> So again, I'm sorry for all this, I just was pissed off a little.

Well maybe I overeacted too but that's not a reason for you to resign. 
Now that just makes it seem like "Oh Thomas left because Alex got pissed 
off" ;)
On the other hand, everyone is allowed a break once in a while... But 
you start off by saying that you're busy and then that you think people 
want your energy in something else. Dude, how many times have I told you 
to PUT YOUR ENERGY IN REACTOS!!! ;). Don't take my reaction as a sign of 
the contrary. I'm pissed off at you 99% of the time for NOT doing work, 
not vice-versa. So please stay :) I mean this with the kindest and 
warmest feelings.

Best regards,
Alex Ionescu
> Thomas
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[Thomas Weidenmueller]

Alex Ionescu wrote:
> Thomas Weidenmueller wrote:
>
> I made the mistake once, you told me on IRC, I didn't do it again.

I think we should just drop this, a fight over such trivias is just
ridiculous and I feel kinda dumb now that I started it at all.
> Well maybe I overeacted too but that's not a reason for you to resign.
> Now that just makes it seem like "Oh Thomas left because Alex got pissed
> off" ;)

It wouldn't be because of you. It's a summary of events, I pissed people
off a little too much and I should step back a little. In the past I
only caused few fights, now I post less frequently and each time I piss
someone off. I don't know why, maybe it's a break I need that's way
overdue.
> So please stay :) I mean this with the kindest and
> warmest feelings.

As I said, I just have been thinking about it and it wouldn't be anytime
soon. It's definitely not the reason why I haven't contributed much
lately. Maybe I'm changed when I get home from my summer vacation.

Thomas

[Hyperion]

Alex Ionescu wrote:
> And after telling us this on the IRC Channel, where 90% of the 
> developers were, your point of posting this on a public mailing list was?
> It's called public defamation,

no no no. It's defamation by voice, when written it's slander