RE: [ros-dev] 0.3 release plan - Again

[Murphy, Ged (Bolton)]

USB is not a prerequisite for 0.3.0 so you might have to hold your breath
for a little while longer.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Johnson [mailto:[e-mail]] 
Sent: 17 November 2005 14:55
To: ReactOS Development List
Subject: Re: [ros-dev] 0.3 release plan - Again

I am waiting with bated breth for 0.3.
I have a test system that is waiting for USB. As soon as USB is working I
will put ROS on my real hardware for testing.

I hope this will be a help to the group.

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[Reuben Perelman]

Murphy, Ged (Bolton) wrote:
> USB is not a prerequisite for 0.3.0 so you might have to hold your breath
> for a little while longer.

I use a USB keyboard and mouse. So do a lot of other people. Me thinks 
that USB should be a priority.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Johnson [mailto:[e-mail]] 
> Sent: 17 November 2005 14:55
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> Subject: Re: [ros-dev] 0.3 release plan - Again
>
> I am waiting with bated breth for 0.3.
> I have a test system that is waiting for USB. As soon as USB is working I
> will put ROS on my real hardware for testing.
>
> I hope this will be a help to the group.
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[Ged Murphy]

Reuben Perelman wrote:
> Murphy, Ged (Bolton) wrote:
> > USB is not a prerequisite for 0.3.0 so you might have to hold your 
> > breath
> > for a little while longer.
>
> I use a USB keyboard and mouse. So do a lot of other people. Me thinks 
> that USB should be a priority.

PS/2 is more popular, so you have an alternative, well, 2 including serial.
Considering there is no alternative to networking, I would say that is 
more important.

USB is however very close, it just isn't a priority for 0.3.0.
I'm not saying it won't be ready for 0.3.0, just that it isn't a 
prerequisite.

This is still very much pre-alpha software thus it's still only aimed at 
developers, testers and enthusiasts. If USB is the only option you have, 
then you should use a virtual machine until it's ready. I'm pretty sure 
all mobo's still include PS/2 ports though, so if you were that intent 
on using ROS right now, you can always pick up a mouse for a couple of 
dolars.

That being said, USB keyboard and mouse was working in HEAD when I tried 
it today :)

Ged.

[David Hinz]

Ged Murphy schrieb:
> Reuben Perelman wrote:
> > Murphy, Ged (Bolton) wrote:
> > > USB is not a prerequisite for 0.3.0 so you might have to hold your 
> > > breath
> > > for a little while longer.
> >
> > I use a USB keyboard and mouse. So do a lot of other people. Me 
> > thinks that USB should be a priority.
>
> PS/2 is more popular, so you have an alternative, well, 2 including 
> serial.
> Considering there is no alternative to networking, I would say that is 
> more important.
>
> USB is however very close, it just isn't a priority for 0.3.0.
> I'm not saying it won't be ready for 0.3.0, just that it isn't a 
> prerequisite.
>
> This is still very much pre-alpha software thus it's still only aimed 
> at developers, testers and enthusiasts. If USB is the only option you 
> have, then you should use a virtual machine until it's ready. I'm 
> pretty sure all mobo's still include PS/2 ports though, so if you were 
> that intent on using ROS right now, you can always pick up a mouse for 
> a couple of dolars.
>
> That being said, USB keyboard and mouse was working in HEAD when I 
> tried it today :)
>
> Ged.
>
> Ros-dev mailing list
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> http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev

Making USB-support a prerequisite for 0.3.0 doesn't mean, that it will 
be implemented sooner, but a release has to support USB to be called 
0.3.0 if USB-support is a prerequisite for 0.3.0.
Anyway, try the USB-Mouse and USB-Keyboard legacy options in your BIOS, 
with this two options enabled your mouse and keyboard should work.

Greets,

David Hinz

[Ge van Geldorp]

> From: David Hinz
> > > Murphy, Ged (Bolton) wrote:
> > > > USB is not a prerequisite for 0.3.0 so you might have to 
> > > > hold your breath for a little while longer.
>
> Making USB-support a prerequisite for 0.3.0 doesn't mean, 
> that it will be implemented sooner, but a release has to 
> support USB to be called 0.3.0 if USB-support is a 
> prerequisite for 0.3.0.

I don't know how to say this any clearer than Ged did above, so I'll just
repeat: USB is NOT a prerequisite for 0.3.0. Check
http://www.reactos.org/wiki/index.php/0.3.x/0.3.0 if you want to know what
ARE the prerequisites/show stoppers for 0.3.0.

Gé van Geldorp.

[David Hinz]

Ge van Geldorp schrieb:
> I don't know how to say this any clearer than Ged did above, so I'll just
> repeat: USB is NOT a prerequisite for 0.3.0. Check
> http://www.reactos.org/wiki/index.php/0.3.x/0.3.0 if you want to know what
> ARE the prerequisites/show stoppers for 0.3.0.

Well, I think that it is already clear enough, I just wanted to point 
out, that it's unimportant for Reuben whether USB is a 
show-stopper/prerequisite for 0.3.0 or not, because it just affects the 
name of a certain release, not it's features.
> Gé van Geldorp.
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[Drew Scott Daniels]

On Sun, Nov 20, 2005 at 12:00:56AM +0000, Ged Murphy wrote:
[...]
> USB is however very close, it just isn't a priority for 0.3.0.
> I'm not saying it won't be ready for 0.3.0, just that it isn't a 
> prerequisite.
>
> This is still very much pre-alpha software thus it's still only aimed at 
> developers, testers and enthusiasts. If USB is the only option you have, 
> then you should use a virtual machine until it's ready. I'm pretty sure 
> all mobo's still include PS/2 ports though, so if you were that intent 
> on using ROS right now, you can always pick up a mouse for a couple of 
> dolars.
>
> That being said, USB keyboard and mouse was working in HEAD when I tried 
> it today :)

[...]
A recently purchased Dell 9100 that I saw didn't have serial, parallel,
PS/2 or anything other than USB, sound, video, 10/100 Ethernet and
expansion card slots (most slots were PCI express). I'm not arguing for
USB support though as of course networking does make sense as a
priority. Of course as others have said in other ways, I'm sure patches
to make USB work are welcome.

Drew Daniels
Resume: http://www.boxheap.net/ddaniels/resume.html