hello guys,
I am sorry for not mentioning a specific area that I am interested. I
am interested in filesystems. Thank you Aleksey , victor and others for
providing the list of projects. From the list I am interested in the
partition manger as arty shed some light it. Any suggestions and help
are most welcome.
Thanks & Regards,
sudheer.
I read the PDF and other information earlier today. I've just updated the Wikipedia page (in English, at least)
regarding Arwinss with the newer, more detailed information. Hopefully, once more people know about Arwinss
and what it will do for ReactOS, more people will appreciate the potential of this project and join in.
I felt you guys should know, since I brought up the issue earlier. Feel free to check on it and correct any errors
I've made. :)
-Joshua Bailey
If you guys don't know me by know, my name is Joshua Bailey, though you may recognize me better as RaptorEmperor on the forums. I infrequently do software testing for the ReactOS project, and I've also just
started teaching myself how to do debugging work. If I knew C, better understood the Windows architecture, and felt more comfortable in my abilities as a programmer I would probably join in development outright.
I'm a pretty frequent visitor to the forums, but I don't generally post anything to the ros-dev mailing list because I'd rather not distract the developers with my random questions about GDI support or whatever else
crosses my mind and leave this mailing list open to more important matters.
For as long as I have been involved with the ReactOS project I've also been a Wikipedia editor. I check on the ReactOS article on Wikipedia periodically to see if there are any points in the article to which I can add
relevant information so readers are better informed (and hopefully more interested) in the ReactOS project. A few weeks ago I added a reference to Arwinss in the paragraph of the article detailing the relationship
between ReactOS and other projects, more specifically Wine. Tonight I checked the article, and I noticed that the reference to Arwinss was removed by LoneRifle, with the attached comment "Current and future
development: Remove information about arwinss on request of the Dev team".
I initially linked my reference to Arwinss in the Wikipedia article to the Arwinss wiki page, and another user by the name of XRideBMX changed the reference to Newsletter #62, which was the first announcement on
the main page about Arwinss. Both of these sources are publicly available from the ReactOS website. There's nothing dubious about their accuracy or point of view. Considering this, and the outright statement on
the article's revision history, I'm left to conclude that the only reason that my edit was removed was censorship on the part of the ReactOS development team.
The reason I find this disturbing is that Wikipedia standards dictate a non-point-of-view policy. By having underlings edit the article to best reflect the preferred viewpoints of the developers, the integrity of the article is
compromised. If my edits were removed for a more legitimate reason, for example, because someone didn't feel they were relevant, I could argue the point with them personally. But as a source of free information,
without intent of bias, seeing the developers complicit in censorship on Wikipedia makes me feel extremely uncomfortable about ReactOS. I'm sure Dick Cheney and the CIA don't appreciate their dirty laundry
(waterboarding, etc.) being plastered in a public encyclopedia, but flags would be immediately raised if the waterboarding article was changed with the article history stating "Remove information about CIA
waterboarding on the request of George Tenet". Seeing this kind of behavior coming from free and open-source project, and the flagrant nature of it, is extremely disturbing to me.
I'm formally asking you, the development team, why my comments were
deemed necessary for removal. Since I was the one who made the edit, and considering the concerns I have listed, I deserve some
explanation. As far as I can tell, mentioning Arwinss in a public encyclopedia, using publicly available sources, does no harm to the project. What about the existence of Arwinss was deemed too secret for a
Wikipedia page? How can Arwinss be considered public enough for the ReactOS front page, but not enough for a Wikipedia page? What legitimate reason is there for removing the reference to Arwinss in
Wikipedia? Outside of a sloppy attempt at censorship?
I have been very excited about the ReactOS project since I first discovered it around 2005, and with Arwinss on the radar I'm more excited to see what is going to come out of the project than I have been in a long
time. However, if the development team is not comfortable enough to trust that people can make their own opinions about ReactOS without censoring irrelevant details on a Wikipedia page, maybe I should consider
whether or not ReactOS really adheres to the principles of openness and freedom that I do. As much as I like ReactOS, the I hold the values of open-source first.
I apologize if my formatting appears to be poor, because I don't send emails to mailing lists from this email account that often.
I would greatly appreciate a response. If there is a misunderstanding here I would very much like to resolve it, to clear up my current reservations about the ReactOS project. If not, I reserve my right to revert the
changes to the article.
-Joshua Bailey
>yes, I asked LoneRifle to remove the reference because I was preparing much better information (which has just been released yesterday) and
>didn't want people to read old incomplete info. So from now on you could use this information in our wikipedia article.
If that was the case, that makes sense. Removing the information from the article outright, as opposed to simply waiting and updating the article
with more detailed information when it was available might have been a better way of doing things so no red flags pop up, in my mind
or the mind of others. Alternately, you, LoneRifle, or whoever is the one most in charge of maintaining the Wikipedia page should have at least
noted that the information was going to be replaced with updated information so no other Wikipedia editors were left to assume that the information
was simply going to disappear. Probably the only reason I didn't revert the changes immediately was because I wanted to ask the devs about it
first to see if there was a misunderstanding. My desire to see ReactOS succeed was tempering my natural instinct to assume the worst about the
situation.
Betov already made accusations of ReactOS fans tampering with Wikipedia a while back, and while I don't believe that his claims are true, a
random person reading Betov's accusations and then seeing that kind of a statement in the article's revision history might be more apt to be
apprehensive about the project. Because of the bad rap ReactOS has gotten in the past, we have to be more careful to avoid feeding into any
misinformation that has been spread about ReactOS. Hopefully you can see why I was concerned. It's cool now, we'll just have to do things a bit
differently in the future.
Thanks for getting back to me so quickly.
Since that's cleared up, now I can sit around and get excited about Arwinss again. When should us testers expect to see a working Arwinss in the
trunk builds to test?
-Joshua Bailey
hello,
Thank you very much for all the help guys. I am interested in the Fast FAT project. Also arty and colibri gave me an idea to work on partmgr.sys. I am more interested towards Fast FAT as I have prior experience on file systems and I can show something concrete to my professor. The other thing is for partmgr.sys I need to start from the scratch and there isnt much info about it. Is it fine for others ??(since some one might be working on it).The idea of adding list of all the medium sized task to the wiki is good as its going to help people like me.
Thanks & Regards,
sudhir.
This sounds like a hack.
Why would disabling a service fix an operating system?
Also, don't we need this service for certain Wine tests?
-----Original Message-----
From: ros-diffs-bounces(a)reactos.org [mailto:ros-diffs-bounces@reactos.org] On Behalf Of spetreolle(a)svn.reactos.org
Sent: 15 January 2010 22:17
To: ros-diffs(a)reactos.org
Subject: [ros-diffs] [spetreolle] 45091: Disable spooler service. This allows bootcdregtest to start here under qemu-kvm.
Author: spetreolle
Date: Fri Jan 15 23:17:16 2010
New Revision: 45091
URL: http://svn.reactos.org/svn/reactos?rev=45091&view=rev
Log:
Disable spooler service.
This allows bootcdregtest to start here under qemu-kvm.
Modified:
trunk/reactos/boot/bootdata/hivesys_i386.inf
Modified: trunk/reactos/boot/bootdata/hivesys_i386.inf
URL: http://svn.reactos.org/svn/reactos/trunk/reactos/boot/bootdata/hivesys_i386…
==============================================================================
--- trunk/reactos/boot/bootdata/hivesys_i386.inf [iso-8859-1] (original)
+++ trunk/reactos/boot/bootdata/hivesys_i386.inf [iso-8859-1] Fri Jan 15 23:17:16 2010
@@ -1198,7 +1198,7 @@
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Spooler","Group",0x00000000,"SpoolerGroup"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Spooler","ImagePath",0x00020000,"%SystemRoot%\system32\spoolsv.exe"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Spooler","ObjectName",0x00000000,"LocalSystem"
-HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Spooler","Start",0x00010001,0x00000002
+HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Spooler","Start",0x00010001,0x00000004
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Spooler","Type",0x00010001,0x00000110
; WLAN service