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Re: [ros-dev][OT] Mail format (was: PPC arch.?)
by Quandary 04 Jun '05

04 Jun '05

Irony is a bitter mistress. Vim line-wrapped me at 72 characters, whereas Yahoo wraps at 54. I very recently started to use sendymail, which pipes my text through the Yahoo web interface, and quite obviously doesn't run things through fmt before-hand -- hence the nasty line filling. As such, I've decided to practice what I preach, and reformat my letter. I wish I could say it was intentional (the end result was just too perfect in illustrating the point), but it was an honest mistake. Cheers. -- Travis On Sat, Jun 04, 2005 at 12:29:45PM -0700, Quandary wrote: > On Sat, Jun 04, 2005 at 12:03:48PM -0500, Rick > Langschultz wrote: > > > > I use Outlook XP to compose mail to my boss and > > to a support team. I have to use HTML formatting > > in my mail messages. Sorry for the inconvenience > > I have caused. If people want to get picky about > > the mail format and not the content of the > > message, they should re-evaluate their purposes > > involved in developing code, and material for > > computers. > > If you've ever tried to read an XML/HTML message in > a plain-text reader (such as mutt, which is my > client of choice), you would understand why folks > complain. > > To draw an analogy as to how silly your claim is > (that the formatting should be ignored completely), > consider the following scenarios: > > 1. A huge C program that works, but has no comments > and obfuscated code. > "If you can't understand it without comments, > you should re-evaluate your programming > ability." > > 2. A patch that has thousands of formatting changes > intermixed with bugfixes. > "If you can't appreciate the functionality of a > freely offered patch that seems to fix a bug, > you should re-evaluate your stance as a > community-based project." > > 3. Documentation provided in rendered PS (or > another opaque format). > "If you can't appreciate the accuracy and user- > friendliness of the documentation, you should > re-evaluate your position on having a well- > documented system." > > > See, these are all silly. It's easy for one side to > just ignore the other -- yes, you may need whatever > formatting HTML provides you for work > correspondence; it's easy for you to forget that > it's even there. Likewise, it's easy for those of > us who edit and send raw text to ignore how > engrained HTML can be in some mail front-ends. But > at the end of the day, the lowest common > denominator is plain-text -- and that's something > folks will expect you to conform to. > > Just like a patch with a thousand formatting > changes, now matter how many bugs it fixes, it will > be rejected. So to with your mails -- no matter how > good the merit is, if we have to mind-parse the > gibberish, it's just going to be outright rejected. > > > Thanks for understanding, > > > -- Travis > > > > > Rick Langschultz wrote: > > > > > <html xmlns:o= > > > 3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"= > > > xmlns:w= > > > 3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word"= > > > xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> > > > > [lots and lots of useless XML tags mixed in an > > unholy cesspool with HTTP snipped] > > > > Could you please trim that crap? I am, as I hope > > the majority of list subscribers are too, not > > especially interested in that you wrote an e-mail > > in MSWord and that your "SpellingState" is > > "Clean". > > > > Please use plain-text only. > > > > Thank you for your cooperation. > > > > /Mike > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Fwd: [ros-web] Re: Interface Team
by Jason Filby 04 Jun '05

04 Jun '05

I just noticed that this was sent to ros-web only. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mikko Tikkanen <mikko.tikkanen(a)gmail.com> Date: May 16, 2005 10:48 PM Subject: [ros-web] Re: Interface Team To: ros-web(a)reactos.com Greetings. I am the other half of Jason's "list", the half that (usually) responds to the name Mikko. Something about me: I've seen 25 summers, so far. (a.k.a I'm 25-years old ;) This summer would be my 26th. Usually my interests include badminton, rollerskating, bandy, gentle loving of my car (My one and only honey at the time. Hey, at least she's cheaper than a woman ;), movies, programming, reading (Usually different articles of various topics. Specially anything regarding of science.) and some sort of graphics. I've studied something that goes like this: Special-vocational degree, developing network solutions. (Level of studies ranging from quite basic to university level) Basically it includes designing and developing specified tools that utilize network in some way. Tools used included C/C++, Java/JavaScript, PHP. Though I have worked with VisualBasic, ASP, TCL and some other languages. Nowdays I mostly work basically with PHP and SQL of some sort. (Usually with MySQL, Postgre or Oracle) +xhtml & css Oh, and of course there is High school. Also, at the fall I'm hoping to get to this school which teaches interactivity designing. Basically everything ranging from physical UI design to game-, concept- or web design. However, my aim would to specialize in UI design. (And, of course, ultimately have my own company. 8) I've already cleared my way to last ~30 persons, now it's 30% change of getting in. 26th day are final exams and interviews for the school and after that it's a months wait and results should be here. Keep your thumbs up! :) Next to UI related stuff. I've worked, in some way or another, with www-applications for about 6-8 years. Also I like to educate myself so I've taken some courses and trainings on it. Also, I was in charge of design, production and maintaining of information gathering and analysis tools at Inmet Mining, Pyhäsalmi mine Oy. Europe's deepest metal ore mine and most technologically advanced mine in the world. Some of those tools are used by miners who didn't have very much experience with computers. Hence they needed to be easy to use yet able to utilize enough power, for experienced user, to dig out every last piece of information needed, regarding of i.e. certain ore loading machine. At my current job (head of sales, at paper. usually I lots of other things too) I've created complete network-based software for the shop's check-out. It also includes real time accounting for store, billing and web-shop. Of course all this is wrapped to single user interface. Which, sadly, has as good UI as I would like but there are other matters which keep me busy from re-creating the whole system. I've always been interested of UI design and have read pretty much everything I've come across with. Of course, depending of the source. ;) When designing something I've always tried position myself as the regular user and tried to forget all the "invisible" little helpers that I am used to, since regular user usually doesn't have a clue. Moms and dads actually make pretty good user test subjects as they don't use computers that much but know their way around. ;) I've also made initial design for a game called Notrium. Lately I've made some initial mockups for ROS. For software library: http://devnet.dnsalias.net/guidesign/software_library_v2.jpg And for ROS start menu: http://devnet.dnsalias.net/guidesign/start_menu.jpg Hmm. This turned to another rant, it seems. -mikko _______________________________________________ Ros-web mailing list Ros-web(a)reactos.com http://reactos.com:8080/mailman/listinfo/ros-web

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rbuild problem
by Hartmut Birr 04 Jun '05

04 Jun '05

Hi, the precompiled headers are created in the source tree, but they should be created in the ROS_INTERMEDIATE tree. - Hartmut

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Where have the MAP Files gone?
by Alex Ionescu 04 Jun '05

04 Jun '05

Hi, Does anyone know where rbuild creates the map files now? With all this discussion on having easy to use debugging, it seems that having the map files is the most important thing of them all. Can this functionality please be added back to rbuild, or can someone show me if there's a flag or something? I can't live without map files..how are you supposed to debug without them?? Best regards, Alex Ionescu

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RE: Trademark filing
by Lucio Diaz 04 Jun '05

04 Jun '05

> Today's Topics: > > 1. RE: Trademark filing for the name ReactOS and > Logo > (Sylvain Petreolle) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 11:39:07 +0200 (CEST) > From: Sylvain Petreolle <spetreolle(a)yahoo.fr> > Subject: RE: [ros-dev] Trademark filing for the name > ReactOS and Logo > To: ReactOS Development List <ros-dev(a)reactos.com>, > ros-foundation(a)reactos.org > Message-ID: > <20050602093907.66843.qmail(a)web26806.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > --- Steven Edwards <steven_ed4153(a)yahoo.com> a écrit > : > > > Hi All, > > I am going to be meeting with my laywer on friday > to file the paperwork for trademark name > > ReactOS > > and the logo in the state of South Carolina. The > filing cost is going to be $500 for the state > > filing and I assume the same or about for the > federal. I have to use another lawyer for the > > federal filing. I am not soliciting donations but > if you would like to contribute to the cause I > > have setup a new paypal account for > reactos.foundation(a)gmail.com > > > > Thanks > > Steven > all right, did a 15$ donation to the new Paypal > account > > Kind regards, > > Usurp (aka Sylvain Petreolle) > > humans are like computers, > yesterday the BIOS was all > - today its just a word > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Ros-dev mailing list > Ros-dev(a)reactos.com > http://reactos.com:8080/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev > > End of Ros-dev Digest, Vol 10, Issue 4 > ************************************** > I wish to contribute, but i have never used Paypal, more, i dont like to give my credit card number to a system i dont know and dont truly trust, could you give me a real address? that way i can send you a letter with some money (Euros, unless i manage to exchange it somewhere). I can not code but i can contribute. ______________________________________________ Renovamos el Correo Yahoo! Nuevos servicios, más seguridad http://correo.yahoo.es

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Are DBG=0 builds broken?
by WaxDragon 03 Jun '05

03 Jun '05

I have been unable to boot or install a DBG=0 build since yesterday (yesterday being the first time I have tried in a while). Has anyone tried a DBG=0 build either via bootcd or "make install"? The bootcd will load the drivers then stack fault VMWare, and just hang qemu. A "make install" seems to just hang. The last DBG=0 build I have is pre-rbuild, 176 versions ago. Anyone have a working DBG=0 bootcd that is more recent than mine? I'm trying to narrow down the regression. -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 100 9.0M 2005-05-27 15:11 ReactOS-15546M_release.iso <-- This one works. -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 100 15M 2005-05-28 20:50 ReactOS-15606M.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 100 15M 2005-05-29 16:43 ReactOS-15648:15668M.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 100 15M 2005-05-28 21:36 ReactOS-15648M.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 100 12M 2005-05-29 12:26 ReactOS-15648M.iso.zip -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 100 15M 2005-05-29 17:19 ReactOS-15671M.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 100 15M 2005-05-30 09:42 ReactOS-15677M.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 100 15M 2005-05-31 10:29 ReactOS-15695M.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 100 15M 2005-05-31 12:42 ReactOS-15702M.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 100 15M 2005-05-31 21:35 ReactOS-15710M.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 100 15M 2005-06-01 16:25 ReactOS-15716M.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 100 15M 2005-06-01 20:59 ReactOS-15722M.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 100 15M 2005-06-01 21:46 ReactOS-15722M_release.iso <-- This one is broken. WD -- <kjk_hyperion> I have a penchant for mischief, property damage and stalking <kjk_hyperion> and cheesecake, of course

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RE: [ros-dev] Re: [ros-svn] [fireball] 15737: First version of Ex plorer's translation into Russian. Done by Dmitry Philippov, checked by m e, DarkHobbit and others.
by Murphy, Ged (Bolton) 03 Jun '05

03 Jun '05

Filip Navara wrote: > I did that sometime ago in my local tree. The problem is that it makes > the resources uneditable in the MSVC builtin resource editor (since the > included files aren't taken into account). Also I noticed some of the > neutral image resources are currently inside the LANG_GERMAN block... Do our resource files need to be MSVC ResEd compatible? If they do, I'm guessing this is gonna cause issues for many other resource files too, as we know how 'odd' the MS resource editor is. I don't have a copy of MSVC so I can't test, but does MSVC still allow building and linking of .rc files written in formats other than the MSVC standard? (e.g. by hand) I know this is a constraint in the future for the building of ROS under MSVC. Regards, Ged. CMP Batteries will be exhibiting at The Logistics Event on the 7th and 8th June at the NEC in Birmingham. We would like to invite you to visit us on stand DO5 where you can learn about the latest innovations and cost effective solutions on offer from Chloride Motive Power. For more information please visit www.thelogisticsevent.com ************************************************************************ The information contained in this message or any of its attachments is confidential and is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee. The information may also be legally privileged. The views expressed may not be company policy, but the personal views of the originator. If you are not the addressee, any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other dissemination or use of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact postmaster(a)exideuk.co.uk <mailto:postmaster@exideuk.co.uk> and then delete this message. Exide Technologies is an industrial and transportation battery producer and recycler with operations in 89 countries. Further information can be found at www.exide.com

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Re: [ros-svn] [fireball] 15737: First version of Explorer's translation into Russian. Done by Dmitry Philippov, checked by me, DarkHobbit and others.
by Gedi 03 Jun '05

03 Jun '05

fireball(a)svn.reactos.com wrote: >First version of Explorer's translation into Russian. Done by Dmitry Philippov, checked by me, DarkHobbit and others. >But still needs extensive checking. > > >Updated files: >trunk/reactos/subsys/system/explorer/explorer_intres.rc > > Would it not be better to start splitting this file? It has quite a lot of languages in it now and is getting pretty big. Ged.

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r15720 - wtf?
by Aleksey Bragin 03 Jun '05

03 Jun '05

Hi, James - please, could you tell me the purpose of 15720 commit? "Adding Cromwell to Usb" means that you are doing only non-coding updates most of all, but turns out commit touches more than just xml build system integration. But, *why* you changed variable name, in struct even(!!!!), interface to pinterface? You understand, and I already told you, it's Linux's source code, and it will just add more conflicts when doing 2.5->2.6 upgrade. Please, in future, submit this kind of patches to Linux. Though I thank you for the changes you have done to other files, xml files, etc. WBR, Aleksey Bragin.

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mpr_**.rc
by Mikhail Y. Zvyozdochkin 03 Jun '05

03 Jun '05

Hello, ReactOS team. I translated resources in /lib/mpr/ on Russian, and I tried to check controls position in IDD_PROXYDLG dialog in MSVC resource visual editor. I detected that some controls overlapped even in original MPR_EN.RC (and in ALL mpr_**.rc translations). Who can confirm or deny my opinion on working system? WBR, DarkHobbit

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