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Re: [ros-dev] Vote: Allow 3rd-party distribution of ROS through XDCC Bot.

by Steven Edwards

Hi, --- Mike Swanson <mikeonthecomputer(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Just put a trademark on the name but allow it to be used on > derivations on the circumstance that it clearly shows that it is not > _the_ ReactOS. I have looked in to this a bit with the legal council I have on retainer as part of the ReactOS Foundation work. I think it is around $250 to file in a state and around $1000 to file the federal paperwork. I will call the lawyer this week and get numbers and a timeframe on what it would take to make it happen. Thanks Steven __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/

19 years, 6 months

Re: [ros-dev] Re: [ros-diffs] [ion] 14047: Dispatching & Queue Rewrite II:

by Steven Edwards

--- Alex IoIonescuioionucuivideotrona> wrote: > This climate of paranoia is getting to my nerves. You could at least try to be civil in your discussion. Some of us have spent more than a few years on this project and have a right to be a little paranoid about if our lives work might be put in to danger. > As for Steven... WINE, ROS, and any other compatibility product out there is not 100% clean > room. It has never been, will never be, cannot be. Especially if we consider debug information > as being "dirty". Reminds me of people freaking out when I added functions that were in the IFS > -- you'd hope people would've grown up by now--. Still it depends on the source of the information. We have discussed in private my views on using the debug information. I will publicly state I think the law is ambiguous at best and the debug information should be a valid source given Microsoft position of being a monopoly as found by Anti-trust proceedings. That being said a court might not agree with me so any behavior must be 1. Reproduceable or 2. Documented. > I could make a list of over 25 parts of ReactOS Which are not 100% clean. But I won't, because > that would tarnish our image. I would appreciate if you'd stop tarnishing mine and making > accusations. I am not trying to trash your image. I am simply mentioning the truth that everyone already knows but could be deadly to this project and others in a kangaroo court in the US. When your source of information comes from documentation or a third part program exhibiting certain behavior then there is not a legal question as to if a reimplementation is a original work. If you are basing your implementation of a feature only on the debug information then clearly, at least in my mind it runs the danger being found a derived work and everytime you do so it at the very least tarnishes ReactOS's image. Thanks Steven __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/

19 years, 6 months

Debug Output to Com1

by James Tabor

Hi! What happen to the com stuff! 19200 baud! WTH! (++ÄÅÄ+±_.:101) D+ #__+#+ +Å+: PCI\VEN 1106&DEV B198&SUBSYS 00000000&REV 00\0(NT DLL:+_/+++_.:2092) R+Ä#+Å±000 (++ÄÅÄ+±_.:101) D+ #__+#+ + (770000 -> 750000) C:\R#+OS\_<_+Å+: PCI\VEN 1106&DEV 3205&SUBSYS 32051+32\±32.++ 106&REV 00\0000 (NTDLL:+_/+++_.:2092) R+Ä#+Å± (7760000 -> 80000) C:\R#+OS\_<_++32\+__32.++ D_+_B#_ °Ä_ \S<_++RÄÄ+\S<_++32\°_#++°.DLL: 9783000 FIXME: CÄÄ<I+#± Ä_Å'+ _+ÄÄÄ_+ IMAGE ICON Ä__++<! (NTDLL:+_/+++_.:1211) L_G+E|ÄÄ_+B<N#+(): °#+ +Ä °Å +|M__#± (NTDLL:+_/+++_.:1211) L_G+E|ÄÄ_+B<N#+(): °#+ +Ä °Å #+|M__#± (NTDLL:+_/+++_.:1211) L_G+E|ÄÄ_+B<N#+(): °#+ +Ä °Å +|M__#± (NTDLL:+_/+++_.:1211) L_G+E|ÄÄ_+B<N#+(): °#+ +Ä °Å +M__#± (NTDLL:+_/+++_.:1211) L_G+E|ÄÄ_+B<N#+(): °#+ +Ä °Å +ÄM__#± (NTDLL:+_/+++_.:1211) L_G+E|ÄÄ_+B<N#+(): °#+ +Ä °Å +M__#± (NTDLL:+_/+++_.:1211) L_G+E|ÄÄ_+B<N#+(): °#+ +Ä °Å +ÄM__#± (NTDLL:+_/+++_.:1211) L_G+E|ÄÄ_+B<N#+(): °#+ +Ä °Å #+|M__#± (NTDLL:+_/+++_.:1211) L_G+E|ÄÄ_+B<N#+(): °#+ +Ä °Å +|M__#± (NTDLL:+_/+++_.:1211) L_G+E|ÄÄ_+B<N#+(): °#+ +Ä °Å +M__#± (NTDLL:+_/+++_.:1211) L_G+E|ÄÄ_+B<N#+(): °#+ +Ä °Å +M__#± (NTDLL:+_/+++_.:1211) L_G+E|ÄÄ_+B<N#+(): °#+ +Ä °Å +ÄM__#± (+ÅÄ+_/ÅÄ++.:97)(G+A_<ÅK<S+#+) _ +Å+Ä++Å+, Ä+#_ +_< #±#Å +#+_. (Å++__/+#__.:114) F#+ +Ä +ÄÄ++Ä +#__ #+Ä+! H#_ _++ ÄÄ+_. N+_± == 0|000 (Å++__/ÄÄ+.:504) NÄ+ +Ä++Å+: HÄÄ+I 3 G+Ä#+ TRUE SHELLHOOK 1 SHELLHOOK 4 SHELLHOOK 1 SHELLHOOK 4 SHELLHOOK 4

19 years, 6 months

Re: [ros-dev] Re: [ros-diffs] [ion] 14047: Dispatching & Queue Rewrite II:

by Steven Edwards

--- Alex Ionescu <ionucu(a)videotron.ca> wrote: > What the fsck are you implying. Its hard to claim our implementation is "clean room" if you are basing your implementation on debug information rather than reverse enginered behavior. I am not opposed to observing the implementation via debug information and then writting tests to match behavior but there is a fine line... Thanks Steven __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

19 years, 6 months

SM and winlogon

by ea

What if winlogon.exe is run by csrss.exe and not by smss.exe? A winlogon process, in its own desktop, is needed for each Win32 session. If we make csrss.exe multiuser, it must create session 0 (console) or die and therefore run winlogon in it. This change shouldn't have any effect on compatibility with Windows NT. smss will assume only csrss is critical. ea

19 years, 6 months

Boot Error

by James Tabor

Wow! Current SVN (Head)! Used memory 1015744Kb (mm/mminit.c:375) Kernel Stack Limits. InitTop = 0x80133000, Init = 0x80130000 (mm/virtual.c:214) FIXME: MEMORY_AREA_SYSTEM case incomplete (or possibly wrong) for NtQueryVirtualMemory() (ke/bug.c:56) Found Bugcheck Resource Data! (ke/bug.c:67) Got Pointer to Bugcheck Resource Data! (ke/clock.c:80) KiInitializeSystemClock() (ke/clock.c:99) Finished KiInitializeSystemClock() No current process Entered debugger on last-chance exception number 14 (Page Fault) Memory at 0x9c could not be read: Page not present. No current process KeBugCheckWithTf at ke/catch.c:224 A problem has been detected and ReactOS has been shut down to prevent damage to your computer. The problem seems to be caused by the following file: ntoskrnl.exe KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED Technical information: *** STOP: 0x0000001E (0xc0000005,0x8002f410,0x00000000,0x00000018) *** ntoskrnl.exe - Address 0x8002f410 base at 0x80000000, DateStamp 0x0 Page Fault Exception: 14(0) Processor: 0 CS:EIP 8:8002f410 <ntoskrnl.exe:2f410> cr2 18 cr3 26000 Proc: 0 DS 10 ES 10 FS 30 GS 10 EAX: 00000000 EBX: 00000680 ECX: 00026000 EDX: 00000064 EBP: 8013245c ESI: 80132834 ESP: 801323ac EDI: 80132be0 EFLAGS: 00210046 kESP 801323ac Frames: <ntoskrnl.exe:300fc> <ntoskrnl.exe:de31> <ntoskrnl.exe:1285> <ntoskrnl.exe:1aff> <ntoskrnl.exe:382d> <ntoskrnl.exe:c4a3e> <46C> KeBugCheckWithTf at ke/catch.c:224 A problem has been detected and ReactOS has been shut down to prevent damage to your computer. The problem seems to be caused by the following file: ntoskrnl.exe KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED Technical information: *** STOP: 0x0000001E (0x80000003,0x80005c47,0x00000000,0x00000000) *** ntoskrnl.exe - Address 0x80005c47 base at 0x80000000, DateStamp 0x0

19 years, 6 months

Att: Thomas. 2nd Token Bug.

by Alex Ionescu

Steps to repro: 2nd stage installer, pressing enter really fast to get through the screens. At the last screen: Note that the backtrace seems to be missing kernel-mode stuff beyond the syscall. The crash is actually at token.c:1723. In asm: 800b6657: 3b 02 cmp (%edx),%eax edx is 0x00929004 which is invalid: Entered debugger on last-chance exception number 14 (Page Fault) Memory at 0x929004 could not be read: Page not present. Either this function is missing seh, or something has been changed with the token rewrite which messes things up. More info: KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED Technical information: *** STOP: 0x0000001E (0xc0000005,0x800b6657,0x00000000,0x00929004) *** ntoskrnl.exe - Address 0x800b6657 base at 0x80000000, DateStamp 0x0 Page Fault Exception: 14(0) Processor: 0 CS:EIP 8:800b6657 <ntoskrnl.exe:b6657 (se/token.c:1723 (NtAdjustPrivilegesToken))> cr2 929004 cr3 6d8b000 Proc: 80ab8290 Pid: ac <setup.ex> Thrd: 80aba0c8 Tid: b0 DS 10 ES 10 FS 30 GS 23 EAX: 00000007 EBX: 00000000 ECX: 8cada688 EDX: 00929004 EBP: 9d8c8d54 ESI: 0064ec20 ESP: 9d8c8c88 EDI: 8cada688 EFLAGS: 00000206 kESP 9d8c8c88 kernel stack base 9d8c6000 Frames: <ntoskrnl.exe:39c2 (/home/alex/tmp/cc6fkKWh.s:178 (KiSystemService))> <advapi32.dll:13dca (token/token.c:58 (AdjustTokenPrivileges))> kdb:> bt Frames: <ntoskrnl.exe:39c2 (/home/alex/tmp/cc6fkKWh.s:178 (KiSystemService))> <advapi32.dll:13dca (token/token.c:58 (AdjustTokenPrivileges))> <syssetup.dll:2aff (wizard.c:1164 (DateTimePageDlgProc))> <user32.dll:ea41 (windows/message.c:982 (IntCallWindowProcA))> <user32.dll:eaef (windows/message.c:1031 (CallWindowProcA))> <user32.dll:1717e (windows/dialog.c:1458 (DefDlgProcA))> <user32.dll:ea41 (windows/message.c:982 (IntCallWindowProcA))> <user32.dll:f456 (windows/message.c:1491 (SendMessageA))> <comctl32.dll:28aac (propsheet.c:1713 (PROPSHEET_Next))> <comctl32.dll:28d83 (propsheet.c:3075 (PROPSHEET_DoCommand))> <comctl32.dll:2ab1a (propsheet.c:3412 (PROPSHEET_DialogProc))> <user32.dll:ea06 (windows/message.c:964 (IntCallWindowProcW))> <user32.dll:eb75 (windows/message.c:1057 (CallWindowProcW))> <user32.dll:1700e (windows/dialog.c:1519 (DefDlgProcW))> <user32.dll:ea06 (windows/message.c:964 (IntCallWindowProcW))> <user32.dll:f364 (windows/message.c:1428 (SendMessageW))> <user32.dll:17aca (windows/dialog.c:2220 (IsDialogMessageW))> <user32.dll:17c5a (windows/dialog.c:531 (DIALOG_DoDialogBox))> <user32.dll:17df8 (windows/dialog.c:1608 (DialogBoxIndirectParamW))> <comctl32.dll:27b57 (propsheet.c:729 (PROPSHEET_CreateDialog))> <comctl32.dll:299ce (propsheet.c:2841 (PropertySheetW))> <syssetup.dll:2f4a (wizard.c:1482 (InstallWizard))> <syssetup.dll:172c (install.c:491 (InstallReactOS))>--- Press q to abort, any other key to continue --- <setup.exe:1333 (setup.c:79 (WinMain))> <setup.exe:145b (setup.c:116 (WinMain))> <setup.exe:116a> <setup.exe:1038> <kernel32.dll:20c30 (process/create.c:339 (BaseProcessStart))> <deadbeef> kdb:> regs CS:EIP 0x0008:0x800b6657 SS:ESP 0x0028:0x80105cb9 EAX 0x00000007 EBX 0x00000000 ECX 0x8cada688 EDX 0x00929004 ESI 0x0064ec20 EDI 0x8cada688 EBP 0x9d8c8d54 EFLAGS 0x00000206 PF IF IOPL0 kdb:> cregs CR0 0xe001003b PE MP TS ET NE WP NW CD PG CR2 0x00929004 CR3 0x06d8b000 Pagedir-Base 0x06d8b000 CR4 0x00000080 PGE GDTR Base 0x800d6100 Size 0x0058 LDTR Base 0x00000000 Size 0x0000 IDTR Base 0x80130320 Size 0x0800

19 years, 6 months

Re: [ros-dev] SM: a blocking bug I can

by ea＠iol.it

Hi Hartmut, > I'm not sure but a native application can only import ntdll.dll. If you > enable the code, smss will import smdll.dll. You are probably right. It is the time to make smdll static. Thank you. Emanuele ____________________________________________________________ Navighi a 2 MEGA e i primi 3 mesi sono GRATIS. Scegli Libero Adsl Flat senza limiti su http://www.libero.it

19 years, 6 months

FreeWin

by ea

This one seems a derivative work of ros. Is it already known? http://gro.clinux.org/projects/freewin

19 years, 6 months

Mac OS X clone???

by rlangschultz＠cox.net

I was wondering if there was a project that would be doing a binary compatible OS X system. What reactos does for windows maybe this project can do for OS X. I was just wondering. I know that pearpc emulates a ppc processor, but wether or not a full os exists is the question. I know also that some versions of linux exist for ppc. Thanks Also - is reactos going to do a mips, ppc, arm, ia64 system?

19 years, 6 months

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