im sorry aleksey, but dont you think this is the mindset that drives away
willing helpers
On 4/17/07, Aleksey <aleksey(a)reactos.org> wrote:
     Hi Lucio,
 I must say, that there were a lot of efforts to get our tools working as
 easy as possible. Even a global login system was introduced way back so
 that
 you don't need to create an account for wiki, for bugzilla, for forum, for
 wiki, for the main website - you just create one. A lot of time was spent
 in
 order to do this (every piece of software needed to be customised - Ge and
 Klemens put a lot of their personal time into this).
 I will answer between the lines below so it makes better sense.
 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Lucio Diaz" <reactos_translate(a)yahoo.es>
 To: <ros-dev(a)reactos.org>
 Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 2:08 AM
 Subject: [ros-dev] About translation
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  -Many like me can install SVN, and get the source
 code, but never have made a patch, or even used
 bugzilla(and probably wont have the time). 
 If a contributor has SO small time that he can't even submit his work to a
 bugzilla or, at least, send a patch to a relevant person (the same
 language
 native speaker developer or another translator who has more time), then
 it's
 better to wait when he/she has more free time to contribute. 
Some  people just have bussy lives; maybe it would be more suitable for you
to simply say that if they dont know the best way to submit it, email it
here...
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   files, but
sending them to bugzilla... i dont know how
 to send them to bugzilla, i dont have a bugzilla
 acount, it was tiring trying to find someone to send
 the files, and i dont have the time or will to learn
 bugzilla. 
 That shows you really did not even slightly investigated how the website
 works. And instead you're proposing a whole workflow for developers, so
 they
 mandatory spent a few hours per week maintaining all the stuff you.
 During that 2 years you should have spent just a bit of time, even 20
 minutes, to overview our website and systems we have there, and another 20
 minutes to read online manuals/help for them. Excuses like "I didn't have
 time" hardly apply here. 
 
i understand  that  people often have more  time than they think, as i often
suffer of this, but that last line just sounds a little distasteful
WBR,
  Aleksey Bragin.
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