Re: [ros-dev] Opening up #reactos-dev to the public

[James Tabor]

Yes, that's a better idea. #reactos-gsoc

On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 6:53 PM, Alex Ionescu <ionucu(a)videotron.ca> wrote:

>   I don't agree. Maintain the auto-voice lists and
> get someone in charge of
>  operations, like I used to be for many years on IRC.
>
>  Instead, why not create a #reactos-gsoc or something?
>
>  Best regards,
>  Alex Ionescu
>
>  On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Mark Jansen <learn0more+ros(a)gmail.com>
>  wrote:
>
> >   We can always try it out?
> >  If it doesnt work, restoring it is a simple as setting a flag on the
> >  channel.
> >
> >  On 24 March 2017 at 16:31, David Quintana (gigaherz) <gigaherz(a)gmail.com>
> >  wrote:
> > >   I disagree -- if we can be firm about the channel
> > > being only for 
> >  development
> > >   talk, things should remain mostly as they are
> > > now.
> > >
> > >  In any community, there's inevitably going to be idle talk, offtopic
> > >  conversations, etc. If you only have ONE place to talk in, all those 
> >  thigns
> > >   are going to be mixed in with actual dev talk,
> > > but if you have clear 
> >  rooms
> > >   set for each thing, the majority of people will
> > > be happy to leave all 
> >  the
> > >   offtopic talk to the main channel, and dev talk
> > > to the dev channel.
> > >
> > >  It works for plenty other projects and communities so there's no reason 
> >  to
> > >   be pessimistic and think that "our idiots
> > > are worse". It's simply not 
> >  true.
> > >  
> > >  I vote for trying, and we can always put back the +m if things get out 
> >  of
> > >   hand.
> > >
> > >  On 24 March 2017 at 16:13, Hermès BÉLUSCA-MAÏTO <hermes.belusca(a)sfr.fr>
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I don’t approve the idea. The fact is that if the devs quit originally
> > > > #reactos, it’s because it was generally too noisy, etc… . If we remove 
> >  the
> > >  > moderation irc bit in #reactos-dev, you may
> > > expect the same phenomenon 
> >  to
> > >  > occur in #reactos-dev too.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > De : Ros-dev [mailto:[e-mail]] De la part de David
> > > > Quintana (gigaherz)
> > > > Envoyé : vendredi 24 mars 2017 11:35
> > > > À : ReactOS Development List
> > > > Objet : Re: [ros-dev] Opening up #reactos-dev to the public
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I approve the idea.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 24 March 2017 at 11:21, Colin Finck <colin(a)reactos.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi all!
> > > >
> > > > As you all know, our #reactos-dev IRC channel has been a moderated IRC
> > > > channel for decades, and only operators (devs) and voiced people can
> > > > talk. While we always tried to keep discussions dev-related there, no
> > > > topic has ever been enforced on #reactos. The result is that I see a
> > > > notable number of developers only on #reactos-dev these days.
> > > >
> > > > This is a pretty bad situation! Emerging developers hardly have a way 
> >  to
> > >  > interact with all existing devs on IRC. Often
> > > enough, legitimate
> > > > questions from them remain unanswered on #reactos. Moreover, we don't
> > > > maintain the list of voiced people thoroughly, so even some 
> >  contributors
> > >  > have to ask for temporary voice on
> > > #reactos-dev.
> > > >
> > > > Keep in mind that we're currently in the GSoC phase where students 
> >  shall
> > >  > submit their proposals and get in touch with
> > > the developers.
> > > > How are they going to do this on IRC if #reactos-dev continues to be an
> > > > exclusive club?
> > > >
> > > > Because of these reasons, I'm proposing to remove the moderation bit on
> > > > #reactos-dev and let everybody talk there.
> > > > Its development topic should be enforced though! As soon as people get
> > > > too off-topic, they should be directed to #reactos and kicked if 
> >  nothing
> > > >   else
> > > > helps. Given that all devs are already operators on #reactos-dev,
> > > >  it's fully in their hands.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  Cheers,
> > > >
> > > >  Colin
> > > >
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