win32k C++ suggestion

[Timo Kreuzer]

Hi

I'd like to propose introducing C++ to win32k. Don't worry, this is not 
a suggestion to rewrite everything from scratch in C++, but to gradually 
introduce C++.
The reason is not "That's what Windows does", but the fact that 
especially GDI would heavily benefit in terms of code simplicity, 
clarily and quality from using C++.
A lot of the interfaces are already in a C++ object style way, but still 
code can bypass interfaces and directly modify structure members, even 
if it is not supposed to be done that way.
Unless there are strong objections, I'd post a design / style / roadmap 
suggestion soon.
If people feel strongly about it, we can defer this to after a 0.4.0 
release.

Regards,
Timo

[Jerome Gardou]

Hi Timo,

I'd say go for it. I have no strong objection to introduce some changes 
before 0.4.0, as long as it's not too intrusive or add some real added 
value (unimplemented modules/parts).

I'd like to have it for more than for simplification sake. Some parts of 
win32k are in a sorry state (nothing new, sadly), but 
improving/implementing some modules with C++ would be a nice proof of 
concept. Font engine comes to mind. (Hint, hint ;-)) However, if you 
feel this is too much of an effort for a beginning, feel free to do 
whatever you see fit.

Regards,
Jérôme

PS: Admit it, you want to revive the yarotows branch.

Le 21/02/2015 15:05, Timo Kreuzer a écrit :
> Hi
>
> I'd like to propose introducing C++ to win32k. Don't worry, this is 
> not a suggestion to rewrite everything from scratch in C++, but to 
> gradually introduce C++.
> The reason is not "That's what Windows does", but the fact that 
> especially GDI would heavily benefit in terms of code simplicity, 
> clarily and quality from using C++.
> A lot of the interfaces are already in a C++ object style way, but 
> still code can bypass interfaces and directly modify structure 
> members, even if it is not supposed to be done that way.
> Unless there are strong objections, I'd post a design / style / 
> roadmap suggestion soon.
> If people feel strongly about it, we can defer this to after a 0.4.0 
> release.
>
> Regards,
> Timo
>
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[Aleksey Bragin]

I always liked C++, and it was my main development language before I 
joined ReactOS. Indeed let's not rush, think/discuss through all 
possible things and then start gradually going for it for code pieces 
which are good (which means GDI first of all).

Regards,
Aleksey

On 21.02.2015 17:05, Timo Kreuzer wrote:
> Hi
>
> I'd like to propose introducing C++ to win32k. Don't worry, this is 
> not a suggestion to rewrite everything from scratch in C++, but to 
> gradually introduce C++.
> The reason is not "That's what Windows does", but the fact that 
> especially GDI would heavily benefit in terms of code simplicity, 
> clarily and quality from using C++.
> A lot of the interfaces are already in a C++ object style way, but 
> still code can bypass interfaces and directly modify structure 
> members, even if it is not supposed to be done that way.
> Unless there are strong objections, I'd post a design / style / 
> roadmap suggestion soon.
> If people feel strongly about it, we can defer this to after a 0.4.0 
> release.
>
> Regards,
> Timo

[James Tabor]

Simply but, do not fix, if it is not broken. C++ is good to go. Let's fix
what is broken now before 0.4.0 is released.

On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Aleksey Bragin [e-mail]
wrote:
> I always liked C++, and it was my main development language before I
> joined ReactOS. Indeed let's not rush, think/discuss through all possible
> things and then start gradually going for it for code pieces which are good
> (which means GDI first of all).
>
> Regards,
> Aleksey
>
> On 21.02.2015 17:05, Timo Kreuzer wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I'd like to propose introducing C++ to win32k. Don't worry, this is not a
> > suggestion to rewrite everything from scratch in C++, but to gradually
> > introduce C++.
> > The reason is not "That's what Windows does", but the fact that
> > especially GDI would heavily benefit in terms of code simplicity, clarily
> > and quality from using C++.
> > A lot of the interfaces are already in a C++ object style way, but still
> > code can bypass interfaces and directly modify structure members, even if
> > it is not supposed to be done that way.
> > Unless there are strong objections, I'd post a design / style / roadmap
> > suggestion soon.
> > If people feel strongly about it, we can defer this to after a 0.4.0
> > release.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Timo
>
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