Nobody (ok, many didn't) objected to attacking Iraq at first either. Nor did they to the beginnings of the Holocaust.
Best regards, Alex Ionescu
Whatever. I've had it having to justify my every breath in here. I'm stepping down as UIC and icon designer. Fireball, you can close my SVN account. It seems some people are thinking we didn't lose enough developers from the Hartmut drama. I am officially fed up with everyone's fucking around and bitching. The person I expected it from the least is GreatLord.
mf wrote:
Nobody (ok, many didn't) objected to attacking Iraq at first either. Nor did they to the beginnings of the Holocaust.
Best regards, Alex Ionescu
Whatever. I've had it having to justify my every breath in here. I'm stepping down as UIC and icon designer. Fireball, you can close my SVN account. It seems some people are thinking we didn't lose enough developers from the Hartmut drama. I am officially fed up with everyone's fucking around and bitching. The person I expected it from the least is GreatLord.
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Take it easy, I was trying to tone down the melodrama with some random off-topic posts.
I don't want to be Kernel Coordinator and oversee all patches, I don't think we should have Kernel flame wars, and I don't think this has anything to do with Iraq or Nazism, I was just hoping we could move away from the argument (which I don't even understand, since I have no idea what Greatlord is talking about or which logo he wants reverted, since they've already been changed and reverted multiple times that it got confusing for everyone).
However, to add my two cents, either you start respecting coordinator positions or you don't. Some of you come up with arguments like "oh noes!! We CAN'T change this in Application FOO because <some guy that wrote foo> doesn't want us to!". Well, if your definition of GPL/FOSS is that some guy can dictate how his code is used, then shouldn't your definition of a "coordinator" be someont that dictates policy on his area?
If it's OK to take Foo's authority over foo.exe as supreme, isn't it a bit hypocritical to go behind Bar KC's authority when modifying bar?
Just my two cents.
Best regards, alex Ionescu
On May 19, 2006, at 11:04 AM, Alex Ionescu wrote:
However, to add my two cents, either you start respecting coordinator positions or you don't. Some of you come up with arguments like "oh noes!! We CAN'T change this in Application FOO because <some guy that wrote foo> doesn't want us to!". Well, if your definition of GPL/ FOSS is that some guy can dictate how his code is used, then shouldn't your definition of a "coordinator" be someont that dictates policy on his area?
This is exactly the point. What's the point in a UI coordinator, who at least tries to keep things consistent, when noone is going to listen to him? However, there is one more role of a coordinator - to try and solve all arguings arising between developers / ppl working on graphics.
So, if you (Ged vs. mf) finally can't work together at all, I would better take a small break then, to re-think what's wrong and what's right. And yes, it should be fun, otherwise what's the point of working on this at all?
I tried to regulate this somehow, but it looks like not enough steam was off from both Ged and mf, and all this resulted into a ros-dev flamewar. And developers themselves haven't decided - GreatLord wants the icon removed for some unknown reason, someone else wants the icon to stay, also without a reason.
Why I wanted a UI coordinator, is because HE should solve SUCH questions [in a more or less diplomatic way :) ].
I will think more what can be done on this topic.
If it's OK to take Foo's authority over foo.exe as supreme, isn't it a bit hypocritical to go behind Bar KC's authority when modifying bar?
Just my two cents.
Best regards, alex Ionescu
WBR, Aleksey Bragin ReactOS Project Coordinator.
I think there is a need for a a document in the wiki similiar to the project coordinator page, that states what the UI coordinator should do. Right now different people have different views on it.
/Harteex
2006/5/19, Aleksey Bragin aleksey@studiocerebral.com:
On May 19, 2006, at 11:04 AM, Alex Ionescu wrote:
However, to add my two cents, either you start respecting coordinator positions or you don't. Some of you come up with arguments like "oh noes!! We CAN'T change this in Application FOO because <some guy that wrote foo> doesn't want us to!". Well, if your definition of GPL/ FOSS is that some guy can dictate how his code is used, then shouldn't your definition of a "coordinator" be someont that dictates policy on his area?
This is exactly the point. What's the point in a UI coordinator, who at least tries to keep things consistent, when noone is going to listen to him? However, there is one more role of a coordinator - to try and solve all arguings arising between developers / ppl working on graphics.
So, if you (Ged vs. mf) finally can't work together at all, I would better take a small break then, to re-think what's wrong and what's right. And yes, it should be fun, otherwise what's the point of working on this at all?
I tried to regulate this somehow, but it looks like not enough steam was off from both Ged and mf, and all this resulted into a ros-dev flamewar. And developers themselves haven't decided - GreatLord wants the icon removed for some unknown reason, someone else wants the icon to stay, also without a reason.
Why I wanted a UI coordinator, is because HE should solve SUCH questions [in a more or less diplomatic way :) ].
I will think more what can be done on this topic.
If it's OK to take Foo's authority over foo.exe as supreme, isn't it a bit hypocritical to go behind Bar KC's authority when modifying bar?
Just my two cents.
Best regards, alex Ionescu
WBR, Aleksey Bragin ReactOS Project Coordinator. _______________________________________________ Ros-dev mailing list Ros-dev@reactos.org http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
Aleksey Bragin wrote:
GreatLord wants the icon removed for some unknown reason, someone
else wants the icon to stay, also without a reason.
I like mf's icon for unknown reason. Please don't remove it.
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