Trunk lockage

[Aleksey Bragin]

Hi,
trunk is locked until (at least) debug buildslave is back online.

Also, it's a good occasion to actually FIX all those hanging tests  
(fix, hackfix, anyotherwaytofix) which lead to buildslaves timewaste  
(compare: 4 minutes to build and 1 hour to test). This is unbearable.  
Test results should be available within minutes, and allow easy  
tracking of failures.

WBR,
Aleksey Bragin.

[Daniel Reimer]

Hi,

as you all might have noticed already, GSOC 2010 is getting really close 
and we still could need some ideas:
http://www.reactos.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2010

Deadline to register is March the 12th.

Thx

Daniel

[victor martinez]

Hi,
GSOC doesnt love us too much, or maybe our projects arent interesting enough. We should sell the importance of the project.
Look the diference:
-Improving our Sound stack.
-Make the NVDA project(open source screen reader for the Microsoft Windows operating system.
Providing feedback via synthetic speech and Braille, it enables blind
or vision impaired people to access computers running Windows for no
more cost than a sighted person. Major features include support for
over 20 languages) run in ReactOS.

It is the same, but...who is going to reject the idea of giving to impaired people access to ReactOS?Google?And i think it could be a nice social improvement that diferences ReactOS from Windows.
My suggestion:
"Make the NVDA app run and work in ReactOS".(it currently runs,but doesnt work)
And also the next one;
"Creating a special distro for Impaired people called NVD-Ros". (Reactos+NVDA+some useful apps for Impaired people)

Btw, NVDA is a 10 MB app.We have bigger apps running.But of course just Janderwald knows if it is feasible to have it working :)

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[Andrew Faulds]

Well, here are some suggestions:

- Sound Stack & NVDA (already mentioned)
   - USB - Having working USB support, particularly for flash drives would
   be very useful
   - USB Flash Drive Booting - This is quite important. Having ROS-NVDA
   bootable from a flash drive would be useful for the visually impaired etc.,
   as they could boot any PC into an accessible environment.
   - Also, having portable ReactOS is useful anyway for recovery and all
   sorts of things - especially as you can't legally do it with Windows without
   a second license

Also, ROS-NVDA would be a good idea, but I think we should make sure our
website is accessible to screen readers too - the website redesign should
make this possible.

On 8 March 2010 12:44, victor martinez [e-mail] wrote:
> Hi,
> GSOC doesnt love us too much, or maybe our projects arent interesting
> enough. We should sell the importance of the project.
> Look the diference:
> -Improving our Sound stack.
> -Make the NVDA project(open source screen reader for the Microsoft Windows
> operating system. Providing feedback via synthetic speech and Braille, it
> enables blind or vision impaired people to access computers running Windows
> for no more cost than a sighted person. Major features include support for
> over 20 languages) run in ReactOS.
>
> It is the same, but...who is going to reject the idea of giving to impaired
> people access to ReactOS?Google?And i think it could be a nice social
> improvement that diferences ReactOS from Windows.
> My suggestion:
> "Make the NVDA app run and work in ReactOS".(it currently runs,but doesnt
> work)
> And also the next one;
> "Creating a special distro for Impaired people called NVD-Ros".
> (Reactos+NVDA+some useful apps for Impaired people)
>
> Btw, NVDA is a 10 MB app.We have bigger apps running.But of course just
> Janderwald knows if it is feasible to have it working :)
>
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[Steven Edwards]

On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Andrew Faulds [e-mail] wrote:
> Well, here are some suggestions:

Since google likes to reject ReactOS projects, I think it is better to
present them as independent projects.
> Sound Stack & NVDA (already mentioned)

Maybe see if NVDA works under Wine and if not submit it as a project
through them, just keep the ReactOS name off of it and everyone is
happy except for ReactOS enthusiasts.
> USB - Having working USB support, particularly for flash drives would be
> very useful

I seem to recall someone had developed a USB stack for NT4 for Legacy
systems but it was very limited. Perhaps you could submit a project to
create a better implementation of this for legacy systems. Are there
newer features and functionality in USB that say do not work on
Windows 2000?
> USB Flash Drive Booting - This is quite important. Having ROS-NVDA bootable
> from a flash drive would be useful for the visually impaired etc., as they
> could boot any PC into an accessible environment.
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[James Tabor]

Hi!

On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Steven Edwards [e-mail] wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Andrew Faulds [e-mail] wrote:
> > Well, here are some suggestions:
>
> Since google likes to reject ReactOS projects, I think it is better to
> present them as independent projects.

Not surprising, google is working toward the elimination of the "Open
Source Network" moving inward with a more closed in controlled
Internet 2 island concept.
> > Sound Stack & NVDA (already mentioned)
>
> Maybe see if NVDA works under Wine and if not submit it as a project
> through them, just keep the ReactOS name off of it and everyone is
> happy except for ReactOS enthusiasts.

What ever works! 8^)

[Ged Murphy]

Once ChromeOS was announced Google's dismissal of reactos finally made
sense.
I now expect reactos to be shunned from GSOC and I can't say I blame them.
Closure :)

Ged.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 08 March 2010 23:57
To: ReactOS Development List
Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Summer of Code 2010

Hi!

On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Steven Edwards [e-mail] wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Andrew Faulds [e-mail]

wrote:
> > Well, here are some suggestions:
>
> Since google likes to reject ReactOS projects, I think it is better to
> present them as independent projects.

Not surprising, google is working toward the elimination of the "Open
Source Network" moving inward with a more closed in controlled
Internet 2 island concept.
> > Sound Stack & NVDA (already mentioned)
>
> Maybe see if NVDA works under Wine and if not submit it as a project
> through them, just keep the ReactOS name off of it and everyone is
> happy except for ReactOS enthusiasts.

What ever works! 8^)

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[Timo Kreuzer]

Maybe this is also a good occasion to actually fix buildbot to not build
branches(?)

Btw, before people start complaining that I committed to ta branch and
caused more work for buildbot...  I didn't, my revs are canceled and I'm
going to continue doing that until the bot's back. Stopping the whole
development process just because of builtbot is unreasonable.

Regards,
Timo

Aleksey Bragin schrieb:
> Hi,
> trunk is locked until (at least) debug buildslave is back online.
>
> Also, it's a good occasion to actually FIX all those hanging tests
> (fix, hackfix, anyotherwaytofix) which lead to buildslaves timewaste
> (compare: 4 minutes to build and 1 hour to test). This is unbearable.
> Test results should be available within minutes, and allow easy
> tracking of failures.
>
> WBR,
> Aleksey Bragin.
>
> Ros-dev mailing list
> [e-mail]
> http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev

[Gabriel ilardi]

I second that too, it's really a waste of resources re-building trunk the tree for an unrelated branch commit.

Regards,
Gabriel.
> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 17:26:57 +0100
> From: [e-mail]
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Trunk lockage
>
> Maybe this is also a good occasion to actually fix buildbot to not build
> branches(?)
>
> Btw, before people start complaining that I committed to ta branch and
> caused more work for buildbot...  I didn't, my revs are canceled and I'm
> going to continue doing that until the bot's back. Stopping the whole
> development process just because of builtbot is unreasonable.
>
> Regards,
> Timo
>
> Aleksey Bragin schrieb:
> > Hi,
> > trunk is locked until (at least) debug buildslave is back online.
> >
> > Also, it's a good occasion to actually FIX all those hanging tests
> > (fix, hackfix, anyotherwaytofix) which lead to buildslaves timewaste
> > (compare: 4 minutes to build and 1 hour to test). This is unbearable.
> > Test results should be available within minutes, and allow easy
> > tracking of failures.
> >
> > WBR,
> > Aleksey Bragin.
> >
> > Ros-dev mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
>
> Ros-dev mailing list
> [e-mail]
> http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev

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[Aleksey Bragin]

Buildbot is back online, trunk is unlocked.

WBR,
Aleksey.

On Mar 8, 2010, at 7:41 PM, Gabriel ilardi wrote:
> I second that too, it's really a waste of resources re-building  
> trunk the tree for an unrelated branch commit.
>
> Regards,
> Gabriel.
> > Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 17:26:57 +0100
> > From: [e-mail]
> > To: [e-mail]
> > Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Trunk lockage
> >
> > Maybe this is also a good occasion to actually fix buildbot to
>
> not build
> > branches(?)
> >
> > Btw, before people start complaining that I committed to ta
>
> branch and
> > caused more work for buildbot... I didn't, my revs are canceled
>
> and I'm
> > going to continue doing that until the bot's back. Stopping the
>
> whole
> > development process just because of builtbot is unreasonable.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Timo
> >
> > Aleksey Bragin schrieb:
> > > Hi,
> > > trunk is locked until (at least) debug buildslave is back online.
> > >
> > > Also, it's a good occasion to actually FIX all those hanging tests
> > > (fix, hackfix, anyotherwaytofix) which lead to buildslaves
>
> timewaste
> > > (compare: 4 minutes to build and 1 hour to test). This is
>
> unbearable.
> > > Test results should be available within minutes, and allow easy
> > > tracking of failures.
> > >
> > > WBR,
> > > Aleksey Bragin.
> > >
> > > Ros-dev mailing list
> > > [e-mail]
> > > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
> >
> > Ros-dev mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
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