The new look of ReactOS 21942

[theUser BL]

Last week I have tested ReactOS build 21942.
And I wondern about the ugly changes:

- wrong gradient on the top of the windows.
- the symbols which say, which icon on the desktop is a link and which not,
  is now on the right bottom, instead of the left bottom
  But some icon-designer have the icons so designed, that its ok, if there
  is something on the left bottom of the icon lost. But the icons are
  not so designed, that it is lost on any other place.

It seems, there are now some ReactOS-developer, who don't like Windows.

I would prefering it, if ReactOS looks most as possible like Windows.
And if anybody wants to have its own look, that then existing options to 
change the look of ReactOS.

Greatings
theuserbl

[David Hinz]

theUser BL schrieb:
> Last week I have tested ReactOS build 21942.
> And I wondern about the ugly changes:
> wrong gradient on the top of the windows.

It's not _wrong_, it's different. And when the colors are slightly 
changed, it looks alot better, than in windows, imho...
> the symbols which say, which icon on the desktop is a link and which not,
>
> is now on the right bottom, instead of the left bottom
>  But some icon-designer have the icons so designed, that its ok, if there
>  is something on the left bottom of the icon lost. But the icons are
>  not so designed, that it is lost on any other place.

Imho users either know, if an icon is a shortcut or not, or don't even 
know what a shortcut is, so these small icons could be removed.
But that's a topic we could have yearlong arguments on, so I guess these 
things should stay the way they are and we should wait for more user 
responses.
> It seems, there are now some ReactOS-developer, who don't like Windows.

If all ReactOS-developers would love Windows, would this project even 
exist??
> I would prefering it, if ReactOS looks most as possible like Windows.
> And if anybody wants to have its own look, that then existing options to 
> change the look of ReactOS.

From ReactOS.org:
"ReactOS aims to achieve complete binary compatibility with both 
applications and device drivers meant for NT and XP operating systems, 
by using a similar architecture and providing a complete and equivalent 
public interface."
This says, we will create something compatible to windows, not a clone.

If you want everything to be like it is in windows, go and use windows.

Please excuse my hard formulation, I just wanted to point out, that this 
project is not about _cloning_ windows, but about creating a innovative 
OS, compatible to Windows NT.
> Greatings
> theuserbl

Greets,

David Hinz

[David Johnson]

IMO the Win95 GUI is ugly. I have no problem with is as the default.. for
now.
I think ROS should have it's own unique GUI. Eventually. Or to be themeable.

I would like to see Open Step implemented in ROS, but with a better GUI.
SkyGI is an example of what I am talking about. I am a beta tester for SkyOS
too.

On 5/22/06, David Hinz [e-mail] wrote:
> theUser BL schrieb:
> > Last week I have tested ReactOS build 21942.
> > And I wondern about the ugly changes:
> > wrong gradient on the top of the windows.
>
> It's not _wrong_, it's different. And when the colors are slightly
> changed, it looks alot better, than in windows, imho...
> > the symbols which say, which icon on the desktop is a link and which
>
> not,
> > is now on the right bottom, instead of the left bottom
> >  But some icon-designer have the icons so designed, that its ok, if
>
> there
> > is something on the left bottom of the icon lost. But the icons are
> >  not so designed, that it is lost on any other place.
>
> Imho users either know, if an icon is a shortcut or not, or don't even
> know what a shortcut is, so these small icons could be removed.
> But that's a topic we could have yearlong arguments on, so I guess these
> things should stay the way they are and we should wait for more user
> responses.
> > It seems, there are now some ReactOS-developer, who don't like Windows.
>
> If all ReactOS-developers would love Windows, would this project even
> exist??
> > I would prefering it, if ReactOS looks most as possible like Windows.
> > And if anybody wants to have its own look, that then existing options to
> > change the look of ReactOS.
>
> From ReactOS.org:
> "ReactOS aims to achieve complete binary compatibility with both
> applications and device drivers meant for NT and XP operating systems,
> by using a similar architecture and providing a complete and equivalent
> public interface."
> This says, we will create something compatible to windows, not a clone.
>
> If you want everything to be like it is in windows, go and use windows.
>
> Please excuse my hard formulation, I just wanted to point out, that this
> project is not about _cloning_ windows, but about creating a innovative
> OS, compatible to Windows NT.
> > Greatings
> > theuserbl
>
> Greets,
>
> David Hinz
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[Maarten Bosma]

theUser BL wrote:
> wrong gradient on the top of the windows.

I changed it in the 0.3.0 branch. I did not merge it to trunk yet 
because I was to lazy to check it out. Hopefully someone else will do 
and hopefully everyone likes it. Here is a screenshot.

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/8962/e2uc.png
> the symbols which say, which icon on the desktop is a link and which not,
>
> is now on the right bottom, instead of the left bottom

Is this really that bad ? I did not even notice it.

Maarten Bosma

[David Johnson]

I like it!

On 5/22/06, Maarten Bosma [e-mail] wrote:
> theUser BL wrote:
> > wrong gradient on the top of the windows.
>
> I changed it in the 0.3.0 branch. I did not merge it to trunk yet
> because I was to lazy to check it out. Hopefully someone else will do
> and hopefully everyone likes it. Here is a screenshot.
>
> http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/8962/e2uc.png
> > the symbols which say, which icon on the desktop is a link and which
>
> not,
> > is now on the right bottom, instead of the left bottom
>
> Is this really that bad ? I did not even notice it.
>
> Maarten Bosma
> _______________________________________________
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> [e-mail]
> http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
-- 
Dave Johnson
http://www.davefilms.us DaveFILMS(r)
http://thevoicezone.us The Voice Zone™
Voice Talent
Writer, Producer, Director
Independent Audio Theater Producer
http://www.perditioncity.us
[e-mail]
Member of the Darker Projects team.
http://www.darkerprojects.com
----------------------------------------------------------
Tired of a proprietary Windows on your computer ?
Use free ReactOS instead ( http://www.reactos.org )

[WaxDragon]

On 5/22/06, Maarten Bosma [e-mail] wrote:
> theUser BL wrote:
> > wrong gradient on the top of the windows.
>
> I changed it in the 0.3.0 branch. I did not merge it to trunk yet
> because I was to lazy to check it out. Hopefully someone else will do
> and hopefully everyone likes it. Here is a screenshot.
>
> http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/8962/e2uc.png

I am going to revert this back to the flat blue title bar in both
trunk and the 0.3.0 branch.  I am tired of people screwing with it.
If you don't like it, you have two options:

1. Deal with it
2. Implement a way for the user to choose a look that they like.

I have the UIC's approval.

WD
-- 
ReactOS is a hub, follow the spokes and you'll
immediately find absolutely everything you need
to know about Windows.  ReactOS is not just
software, it's people.
                                        kjk_hyperion

[Maarten Bosma]

WaxDragon wrote:
> I am going to revert this back to the flat blue title bar in both
> trunk and the 0.3.0 branch.  I am tired of people screwing with it.
> If you don't like it, you have two options:
> Deal with it
> Implement a way for the user to choose a look that they like.

I just thought that the version we currently have in trunk did not look 
good. So I tried to make it a bit nicer. I would not have overwritten it 
if the change by Christoph wasn't already there.

However IF the the common sense is to revert it to the 0.2.9 version 
until different themes are implented I can live with that. But I want to 
note that the 0.3.0 branch is not slower version but faster afaik.
> I have the UIC's approval.

I thought he stepped down.

Maarten Bosma

[Maarten Bosma]

Maarten Bosma wrote:
> WaxDragon wrote:
> > I am going to revert this back to the flat blue title bar in both
> > trunk and the 0.3.0 branch.  I am tired of people screwing with it.
> > If you don't like it, you have two options:
> > Deal with it
> > Implement a way for the user to choose a look that they like.
>
> I just thought that the version we currently have in trunk did not look 
> good. So I tried to make it a bit nicer. I would not have overwritten it 
> if the change by Christoph wasn't already there.
>
> However IF the the common sense is to revert it to the 0.2.9 version 
> until different themes are implented I can live with that. But I want to 
> note that the 0.3.0 branch is not slower version but faster afaik.

Btw. I do personally think that the caption bar I committed looks to 
light, but I was the only one who thought so in the IRC channel.

Maarten Bosma