4 Jun
2005
4 Jun
'05
7:29 p.m.
On Sat, Jun 04, 2005 at 12:03:48PM -0500, Rick
Langschultz wrote:
If you've ever tried to read an XML/HTML message in a
plain-text reader
(such as mutt, which is my client of choice), you
would understand why
folks complain.
To draw an analogy as to how silly your claim is (that
the formatting
should be ignored completely), consider the following
scenarios:
1. A huge C program that works, but has no comments
and obfuscated code.
"If you can't understand it without comments, you
should re-evaluate
your programming ability."
2. A patch that has thousands of formatting changes
intermixed with
bugfixes.
"If you can't appreciate the functionality of a
freely offered patch
that seems to fix a bug, you should re-evaluate
your stance as a
community-based project."
3. Documentation provided in rendered PS (or another
opaque format).
"If you can't appreciate the accuracy and
user-friendliness of the
documentation, you should re-evaluate your position
on having a
well-documented system."
See, these are all silly. It's easy for one side to
just ignore the
other -- yes, you may need whatever formatting HTML
provides you for
work correspondence; it's easy for you to forget that
it's even there.
Likewise, it's easy for those of us who edit and send
raw text to ignore
how engrained HTML can be in some mail front-ends. But
at the end of the
day, the lowest common denominator is plain-text --
and that's something
folks will expect you to conform to.
Just like a patch with a thousand formatting changes,
now matter how
many bugs it fixes, it will be rejected. So to with
your mails -- no
matter how good the merit is, if we have to mind-parse
the gibberish,
it's just going to be outright rejected.
Thanks for understanding,
-- Travis
> Rick Langschultz
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ros-dev-bounces(a)reactos.com
[mailto:ros-dev-bounces@reactos.com]
> On Behalf Of Mike Nordell
> Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 9:19 AM
> To: ReactOS Development List
> Subject: Re: [ros-dev] PowerPC arcitecture?
> Rick Langschultz wrote:
> > <html
xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" =
> [lots and lots of useless XML tags mixed
in an
unholy cesspool with HTTP
> snipped]
> Could you please trim that crap? I am, as
I hope the
majority of list
> Please use plain-text only.
> Thank you for your cooperation.
> /Mike
>
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I use Outlook XP to compose mail to my boss and to a
support team. I
have to use HTML formatting in my mail messages.
Sorry for the
inconvenience I have caused. If people want to get
picky about the mail
format and not the content of the message, they
should re-evaluate their
purposes involved in developing code, and material
for computers.
>
xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word"
=
> > xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">
subscribers are too, not especially interested in
that you wrote an
> e-mail
> in MSWord and that your "SpellingState" is "Clean".
5 Jun
5 Jun
9:46 a.m.
New subject: PowerPC arcitecture?
Quandary wrote:
If you've ever tried to read an XML/HTML message
in a
plain-text reader
(such as mutt, which is my client of choice), you
would understand why
folks complain.
I'd like to point out that I'm a big fan of plain-text e-mail, but to be
completely fair towards the original poster, his e-mail DID contain a
plain-text section (and correctly marked as an alternative for the HTML
as far as I can tell), so a MIME-capable plain-text reader could have
simply ignored the HTML part. I agree it is still preferable to send
plain-text only messages.
But for those of you who had a lot of trouble reading his message, this
is what he said:
Rick Langschultz wrote:
I was reading the email on free PowerPC computers
available. I wanted
to work on a port for powerpc a long time ago, but was shot down in
the IRC channel. I want to use pearpc and a native powerpc with
FreeBSD or linux in it to compile the project. Also since PowerPC and
x86 and x64 have different instruction sets, how will ReactOS
implement the NT kernel on non-intel architectures? I would imaging
PPC-ata and X86-ata have different addresses. And not all adapters
work from x86 on ppc. Maybe someone could work closely with Darwine to
get some of this handled.
10 Jun
10 Jun
5:02 a.m.
New subject: PowerPC arcitecture?
If you look at the message is was sent in both plain text and HTML format
Quandary wrote:
On Sat, Jun 04, 2005 at 12:03:48PM -0500, Rick
Langschultz wrote:
I use Outlook XP to compose mail to my boss and to
a
support team. I
have to use HTML formatting in my mail messages.
Sorry for the
inconvenience I have caused. If people want to
get
picky about the mail
format and not the content of the message, they
should re-evaluate their
purposes involved in developing code, and
material
for computers.
If you've ever tried to read an XML/HTML message in a
plain-text reader
(such as mutt, which is my client of choice), you
would understand why
folks complain.
To draw an analogy as to how silly your claim is (that
the formatting
should be ignored completely), consider the following
scenarios:
1. A huge C program that works, but has no comments
and obfuscated code.
"If you can't understand it without comments, you
should re-evaluate
your programming ability."
2. A patch that has thousands of formatting changes
intermixed with
bugfixes.
"If you can't appreciate the functionality of a
freely offered patch
that seems to fix a bug, you should re-evaluate
your stance as a
community-based project."
3. Documentation provided in rendered PS (or another
opaque format).
"If you can't appreciate the accuracy and
user-friendliness of the
documentation, you should re-evaluate your position
on having a
well-documented system."
See, these are all silly. It's easy for one side to
just ignore the
other -- yes, you may need whatever formatting HTML
provides you for
work correspondence; it's easy for you to forget that
it's even there.
Likewise, it's easy for those of us who edit and send
raw text to ignore
how engrained HTML can be in some mail front-ends. But
at the end of the
day, the lowest common denominator is plain-text --
and that's something
folks will expect you to conform to.
Just like a patch with a thousand formatting changes,
now matter how
many bugs it fixes, it will be rejected. So to with
your mails -- no
matter how good the merit is, if we have to mind-parse
the gibberish,
it's just going to be outright rejected.
Thanks for understanding,
-- Travis
Rick Langschultz
-----Original Message-----
From: ros-dev-bounces(a)reactos.com
[mailto:ros-dev-bounces@reactos.com]
On Behalf Of Mike Nordell
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 9:19 AM
To: ReactOS Development List
Subject: Re: [ros-dev] PowerPC arcitecture?
Rick Langschultz wrote:
><html
>
>
xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" =
>xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word"
>
>
=
[lots and lots of useless XML tags mixed in an
unholy cesspool with HTTP
snipped]
Could you please trim that crap? I am, as I hope the
majority of list
subscribers are too, not especially interested in
that you wrote an
e-mail
in MSWord and that your "SpellingState" is "Clean".
Please use plain-text only.
Thank you for your cooperation.
/Mike
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