Hi Lucio, I must say, that there were a lot of efforts to get our tools working as easy as possible. Even a global login system was introduced way back so that you don't need to create an account for wiki, for bugzilla, for forum, for wiki, for the main website - you just create one. A lot of time was spent in order to do this (every piece of software needed to be customised - Ge and Klemens put a lot of their personal time into this).
I will answer between the lines below so it makes better sense.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Lucio Diaz" reactos_translate@yahoo.es To: ros-dev@reactos.org Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 2:08 AM Subject: [ros-dev] About translation
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-Many like me can install SVN, and get the source code, but never have made a patch, or even used bugzilla(and probably wont have the time).
If a contributor has SO small time that he can't even submit his work to a bugzilla or, at least, send a patch to a relevant person (the same language native speaker developer or another translator who has more time), then it's better to wait when he/she has more free time to contribute.
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files, but sending them to bugzilla... i dont know how to send them to bugzilla, i dont have a bugzilla acount, it was tiring trying to find someone to send the files, and i dont have the time or will to learn bugzilla.
That shows you really did not even slightly investigated how the website works. And instead you're proposing a whole workflow for developers, so they mandatory spent a few hours per week maintaining all the stuff you.
During that 2 years you should have spent just a bit of time, even 20 minutes, to overview our website and systems we have there, and another 20 minutes to read online manuals/help for them. Excuses like "I didn't have time" hardly apply here.
WBR, Aleksey Bragin.
im sorry aleksey, but dont you think this is the mindset that drives away willing helpers
On 4/17/07, Aleksey aleksey@reactos.org wrote:
Hi Lucio,I must say, that there were a lot of efforts to get our tools working as easy as possible. Even a global login system was introduced way back so that you don't need to create an account for wiki, for bugzilla, for forum, for wiki, for the main website - you just create one. A lot of time was spent in order to do this (every piece of software needed to be customised - Ge and Klemens put a lot of their personal time into this).
I will answer between the lines below so it makes better sense.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Lucio Diaz" reactos_translate@yahoo.es To: ros-dev@reactos.org Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 2:08 AM Subject: [ros-dev] About translation
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-Many like me can install SVN, and get the source code, but never have made a patch, or even used bugzilla(and probably wont have the time).
If a contributor has SO small time that he can't even submit his work to a bugzilla or, at least, send a patch to a relevant person (the same language native speaker developer or another translator who has more time), then it's better to wait when he/she has more free time to contribute.
Some people just have bussy lives; maybe it would be more suitable for you to simply say that if they dont know the best way to submit it, email it here...
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files, but sending them to bugzilla... i dont know how to send them to bugzilla, i dont have a bugzilla acount, it was tiring trying to find someone to send the files, and i dont have the time or will to learn bugzilla.
That shows you really did not even slightly investigated how the website works. And instead you're proposing a whole workflow for developers, so they mandatory spent a few hours per week maintaining all the stuff you.
During that 2 years you should have spent just a bit of time, even 20 minutes, to overview our website and systems we have there, and another 20 minutes to read online manuals/help for them. Excuses like "I didn't have time" hardly apply here.
i understand that people often have more time than they think, as i often suffer of this, but that last line just sounds a little distasteful
WBR,
Aleksey Bragin.
Ros-dev mailing list Ros-dev@reactos.org http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
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I must agree with Aleksey, sorry Lucio, but I didn't know much about developing, bugzilla, etc. and it took me really a few minutes to understand how to download the source and issue a bug in bugzilla to submit my patches to translate several files of ROS (it took me more though to have them applied :)). I think that translating the OS files would be perfect with the new tool frik85 is working on to translate them directly with your account from the website. I agree that perhaps this way to translate the files doesn't fit for everyone, because a minimal of computer understanding is needed, but I don't think it's that hard. Since the OS is in alpha state, it's my humble opinion that the resources should be focused on the OS itself rather than improving the way to translate it, it's just a matter of priorities.
Gabriel ilardi gabriel_it @ #reactos
im sorry aleksey, but dont you think this is the mindset that drives away willing helpers
On 4/17/07, Aleksey aleksey@reactos.org wrote:
Hi Lucio,I must say, that there were a lot of efforts to get our tools working as easy as possible. Even a global login system was introduced way back so that you don't need to create an account for wiki, for bugzilla, for forum, for wiki, for the main website - you just create one. A lot of time was spent in order to do this (every piece of software needed to be customised - Ge and Klemens put a lot of their personal time into this).
I will answer between the lines below so it makes better sense.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Lucio Diaz" reactos_translate@yahoo.es To: ros-dev@reactos.org Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 2:08 AM Subject: [ros-dev] About translation
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-Many like me can install SVN, and get the source code, but never have made a patch, or even used bugzilla(and probably wont have the time).
If a contributor has SO small time that he can't even submit his work to a bugzilla or, at least, send a patch to a relevant person (the same language native speaker developer or another translator who has more time), then it's better to wait when he/she has more free time to contribute.
Some people just have bussy lives; maybe it would be more suitable for you to simply say that if they dont know the best way to submit it, email it here...
-= skip =-
files, but sending them to bugzilla... i dont know how to send them to bugzilla, i dont have a bugzilla acount, it was tiring trying to find someone to send the files, and i dont have the time or will to learn bugzilla.
That shows you really did not even slightly investigated how the website works. And instead you're proposing a whole workflow for developers, so they mandatory spent a few hours per week maintaining all the stuff you.
During that 2 years you should have spent just a bit of time, even 20 minutes, to overview our website and systems we have there, and another 20 minutes to read online manuals/help for them. Excuses like "I didn't have time" hardly apply here.
i understand that people often have more time than they think, as i often suffer of this, but that last line just sounds a little distasteful
WBR,
Aleksey Bragin.
Ros-dev mailing list Ros-dev@reactos.org http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
psudobuddha
Ros-dev mailing list Ros-dev@reactos.org http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
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