PPC Port of ReactOS Not Needed?

[mail.comcast.net]

With the news that new Macs will be Pentium 4 based (yes, not just intel, but Pentium 4
based) I have to wonder, Would it be worthwhile to continue working on a port of ROS to
PPC?

Richard

[David Johnson]

Where did you get your information?

Apple is not going to change to Pent. 4 X86 platform. Microsoft is
switching to PPC. (XBOX) Sony is PPC also with PS3 and Nintendo has
been PPC for along time. Also PPC is a lot more scalable than x86.
Rumor has it Longhorn has a PPC port being developed in parallel.

No apple did have MacOS running on x86 called project Startrek.

That was before OSX.

On 6/6/05, mail.comcast.net <eek2121(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>    
>  With the news that new Macs will be Pentium 4 based (yes, not just intel,
>  but Pentium 4 based) I have to wonder, Would it be worthwhile to continue
>  working on a port of ROS to PPC? 
>    
>  Richard 
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>   

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David Johnson
http://www.davefilms.us

[Brandon Turner]

a little behind on the news... check any website on the internet for 
keynote cliffs.

Brandon


David Johnson wrote:

>  Where did you get your information?
>
> Apple is not going to change to Pent. 4 X86 platform. Microsoft is
> switching to PPC. (XBOX) Sony is PPC also with PS3 and Nintendo has
> been PPC for along time. Also PPC is a lot more scalable than x86.
> Rumor has it Longhorn has a PPC port being developed in parallel.
>
> No apple did have MacOS running on x86 called project Startrek.
>
> That was before OSX.
>
> On 6/6/05, mail.comcast.net <eek2121(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>   
>
> >   
> > With the news that new Macs will be Pentium 4 based (yes, not just intel,
> > but Pentium 4 based) I have to wonder, Would it be worthwhile to continue
> > working on a port of ROS to PPC? 
> >   
> > Richard 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Ros-dev mailing list
> > Ros-dev(a)reactos.com
> > http://reactos.com:8080/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
> >
> >
> >     
> >  
>
>   
>

[TwoTailedFox]

This is where he got the information from:

http://www.betanews.com/article/Apple_Announces_Switch_to_Intel_Chips/11180…

Apple is indeed switching to x86. Mac OX X 10.5 (Codename 'Leopard')
will be the first MacOS X Version to be available for x86. And Apple
has had MacOS compiled for the x86 for 5 years.

And this makes me wonder: What now for the usefulness of PearPC?

On 6/6/05, David Johnson <davidjohnson.johnson(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>   Where did you get your information?
>  
>  Apple is not going to change to Pent. 4 X86 platform. Microsoft is
>  switching to PPC. (XBOX) Sony is PPC also with PS3 and Nintendo has
>  been PPC for along time. Also PPC is a lot more scalable than x86.
>  Rumor has it Longhorn has a PPC port being developed in parallel.
>  
>  No apple did have MacOS running on x86 called project Startrek.
>  
>  That was before OSX.
>  
>  On 6/6/05, mail.comcast.net <eek2121(a)comcast.net> wrote:
> >  
> >  With the news that new Macs will be Pentium 4 based (yes, not just intel,
> >  but Pentium 4 based) I have to wonder, Would it be worthwhile to continue
> >  working on a port of ROS to PPC?
> >
> >  Richard
> >  _______________________________________________
> >  Ros-dev mailing list
> >  Ros-dev(a)reactos.com
> >  http://reactos.com:8080/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
> >
> >  
>  
>  
>  --
>  David Johnson
>  http://www.davefilms.us
>  
>  _______________________________________________
>  Ros-dev mailing list
>  Ros-dev(a)reactos.com
>  http://reactos.com:8080/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
>   

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[Alex Ionescu]

mail.comcast.net wrote:

>   With the news that new Macs will be Pentium 4 based
> (yes, not just 
>  intel, but Pentium 4 based) I have to wonder, Would it be worthwhile 
>  to continue working on a port of ROS to PPC?
>   
>  Richard
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  
Will the gigantic PPC user base (all Macs except 68K + other embedded 
devices) magically be converted to Pentium 4 simply because Apple's 
*new* machines (which will only be retailing in 2008) will be based on 
x86? I also doubt it'll be P4 based...the dev machine is P4...but I bet 
the final product will be a desktop version of the Pentium M. Notice 
Jobs was talking about G5 not delivering on laptop and also "Performance 
per watt". That's where the Centrino 2 excells..and Intel is working on 
a Desktop version.
So yes of cousre we will still want to support the million of PPC computers.

Best regards,
Alex Ionescu

[David Johnson]

Good, I still love PPC. Because it is different. The iMac that I will
be sending to South Carolina will be a G3 350Mhz.

On 6/6/05, Alex Ionescu <ionucu(a)videotron.ca> wrote:
>   mail.comcast.net wrote:
>  
> >   With the news that new Macs will be Pentium 4
> > based (yes, not just
> >  intel, but Pentium 4 based) I have to wonder, Would it be worthwhile
> >  to continue working on a port of ROS to PPC?
> >
> >  Richard
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >  
>  Will the gigantic PPC user base (all Macs except 68K + other embedded
>  devices) magically be converted to Pentium 4 simply because Apple's
>  *new* machines (which will only be retailing in 2008) will be based on
>  x86? I also doubt it'll be P4 based...the dev machine is P4...but I bet
>  the final product will be a desktop version of the Pentium M. Notice
>  Jobs was talking about G5 not delivering on laptop and also "Performance
>  per watt". That's where the Centrino 2 excells..and Intel is working on
>  a Desktop version.
>  So yes of cousre we will still want to support the million of PPC computers.
>  
>  Best regards,
>  Alex Ionescu
>  _______________________________________________
>  Ros-dev mailing list
>  Ros-dev(a)reactos.com
>  http://reactos.com:8080/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
>   

-- 
David Johnson
http://www.davefilms.us

[Wesley Parish]

I would say it would be needed.  It's a way of finding bugs that i80x86 hides,
or that aren't major bugs in i80x86.

Wesley Parish

Quoting "mail.comcast.net" <eek2121(a)comcast.net>et>:

>   With the news that new Macs will be Pentium 4 based
> (yes, not just
>  intel, but Pentium 4 based) I have to wonder, Would it be worthwhile to
>  continue working on a port of ROS to PPC?
>  
>  Richard  


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Wesley Parish wrote:
>  
>  I would say it would be needed.  It's a way of finding bugs that i80x86 hides,
>  or that aren't major bugs in i80x86.
>   
I suppose that I'm joining this a bit late, but wouldn't it be safe to
assume that the more systems we're successfully running on, the better?
 If the ReactOS system can support the Win32 API on multiple
architectures, that'd be great, regardless of what manufacturer is using
what brand / model of processor.

Besides, keeping the PowerPC support means that ROS can run on the Xbox
360, PS 3, and new Nintendo system... IIRC, they're all slated to use
the IBM PowerPC processor now, too.  And they will be decently
well-priced units, with more processing power then in any computer that
I have in my apartment, that's for sure.

Also, there are people that will retain the Macintosh units that they
have today, for the next several years to a decade.  Most of the people
that I know don't upgrade until they come across the dire need to do so.

	Later,
	Mike
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