Re: [ros-dev] Saying To All

[Thomas Larsen]

My english is sometimes poor

For the first i give a shit public or not

1. One day i found reactos 
2. Where looking on how you made reactos drivers and got (exiting=happy dont know how to
spell)
3. Got Ida Disam in demo version
4. Disam shell32 and scsiport.sys Theire where lot of places where it where identical
5. Microsoft Source leak my friend just downloaded it i got parts of the code what could
be on my
1,33 mb floppy
6. Saw scsiport.sys where 90% identical i layout and code and alittel of shell32
7. Wrote one mail or two dont remember saying it should newer have done so
8. Got many really unhappy ppl. email answers (they want to see the source and No i
dident)
9. Talked with alot of ppl and i discover that i where not right
10. Worked on with reactos
11. The mail today

;I'm not quite sure what you're driving at, but are you saying you 
;posess(ed) the leaked sources? And - by comparing it with ReactOS/WINE - 
;we must have been tainted with it? I really hope I mistook that.

i dident possess (in my word book its is "showing" the source) And no that where
not what i meant
to say

Im Saying that i could just have changed email and name (NO Worry i dident do that)

And my point only where give me a chance the only thing i want to is to help reactos..
but it seems that their are no chance so saying goodbye.. sry..

Thomas


		
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[Hartmut Birr]

Thomas Larsen schrieb:

>  4. Disam shell32 and scsiport.sys Theire where lot of
> places where it where identical
>   
>  
The M$ compiler and gcc is very different. If you compare the assembler
code which is compiled from the same source, you can found the same
functions bodies, but inside the functions there are many differences.
Some time ago, I've ported a simple driver for an eprom programer from
M$ tools to the ReactOS build system. At the start it hasn't worked,
because I forgot the stdcall attributes for some functions. The
reassembled code was very different.

>  5. Microsoft Source leak my friend just downloaded it i
> got parts of the code what could be on my
> 1,33 mb floppy
>   
>  
If you was interessted to compare the ros and M$ code, you have never
worked with a floppy. It is too simple to burn a cd or dvd.

>  6. Saw scsiport.sys where 90% identical i layout and
> code and alittel of shell32
>   
>  
Some parts of scsiport are from me. I've never seen the scsiport sources
from M$. I'm not sure which code from M$ you know. Our scsiport is more
compatible with the NT4.0 one. I've test many scsi controller with its
NT 4.0 drivers (adaptect 2940, ataptec on asus p2d, dmx3194uw, diamond
fireport, tekram dc390, initio a100, some with different lsi chipset,
some with initio 950 chip set). I think M$ has lost the W2K sourcesand
not the NT4.0 one. Our scsiport is very different from W2k and it is
different from NT4.0. I've add a list of imported functions. Some
functions are very specific for the implemention. ReactOS doesn't use
IoFreeMdl, IoFreeIrp, the DeviceQueu functions and some others. Many
things may nearly the same, bcause they must implement the some
functions. Our implementation is different from M$. The different
imported functions shows this. You cannot find 90% identical, if you
compare our source with the M$ source.

- Hartmut



                                        ReactOS NT4.0   W2K

_allmul                                                 x
_aullshr                                                x
_except_handler3                                        x
_strnicmp                               x       x       x
_wcsnicmp                                       x       x
DbgBreakPoint                                   x       x
DbgPrint                                x               x
ExAllocatePool                          x               
ExAllocatePoolWithTag                   x       x       x
ExDeleteNPagedLookasideList                             x
ExFreePool                              x       x       x
ExInitializeNPagedLookasideList                         x
ExInterlockedPopEntrySList                              x
ExInterlockedPushEntrySList                             x
InterlockedCompareExchange                              x
InterlockedDecrement                    x       x       x
InterlockedExchange                     x               x
InterlockedExchangeAdd                                  x
InterlockedIncrement                            x       x
IoAllocateAdapterChannel                        x       x
IoAllocateDriverObjectExtension                         x
IoAllocateErrorLogEntry                         x       x
IoAllocateIrp                                           x
IoAllocateMdl                                           x
IoAllocateWorkItem                                      x
IoAssignResources                                       x
IoAttachDeviceToDeviceStack                             x
IoBuildAsynchronousFsdRequest                   x       x
IoBuildDeviceIoControlRequest           x       x       
IoBuildSynchronousFsdRequest                    x       x
IoCallDriver                            x               
IoCompleteRequest                       x               
IoConnectInterrupt                      x       x       x
IoCreateDevice                          x       x       x
IoCreateSymbolicLink                    x       x       x
IoDeleteDevice                          x       x       x
IoDeleteSymbolicLink                                    x
IoDetachDevice                                  x
IoDisconnectInterrupt                   x       x       x
IofCallDriver                                   x       x
IofCompleteRequest                              x       x
IoFreeIrp                                       x       x
IoFreeMdl                                       x       x
IoFreeWorkItem                                          x
IoGetConfigurationInformation           x       x       x
IoGetDeviceProperty                                     x
IoGetDriverObjectExtension                              x
IoInitializeIrp                                         x
IoInitializeTimer                       x       x       x
IoInvalidateDeviceRelations                             x
IoInvalidateDeviceState                                 x
IoOpenDeviceRegistryKey                                 x
IoQueryDeviceDescription                        x       x
IoQueueWorkItem                                 x       x
IoRegisterDeviceInterface                       x       x
IoReportDetectedDevice                          x       x
IoInvalidateDeviceRelations                             x       
IoInvalidateDeviceState                                 x
IoOpenDeviceRegistryKey                         x       x
IoQueryDeviceDescription                        x       x
IoQueueWorkItem                                 x       x
IoRegisterDeviceInterface                       x       x
IoReportDetectedDevice                          x       x
IoWriteErrorLogEntry                            x       x
KeAcquireSpinLockAtDpcLevel                     x       x       
KeBugCheck                              x               
KeBugCheckEx                                            x
KeCancelTimer                                           x
KefAcquireSpinLockAtDpcLevel                    x       x
KefReleaseSpinLockFromDpcLevel                  x       x
KeInitializeDeviceQueue                         x       x
KeInitializeDpc                         x       x       x
KeInitializeEvent                       x       x       x
KeInitializeSpinLock                    x       x       x
KeInitializeTimer                               x       x
KeInsertByKeyDeviceQueue                        x       x
KeInsertDeviceQueue                                     x
KeInsertQueueDpc                        x       x       x
KeReadStateEvent                        x               x
KeReleaseSpinLockFromDpcLevel           x               x
KeRemoveDeviceQueue                                     x
KeRemoveByKeyDeviceQueue                                x       
KeRemoveDeviceQueue                                     x       
KeResetEvent                                            x
KeSetEvent                                              x
KeSetTimer                                      x       x
KeSynchronizeExecution                  x       x       x
KeWaitForMultipleObjects                x               
KeWaitForSingleObject                           x       x
memcpy                                  x               
Mm64BitPhysicalAddress                                  x
MmAllocateContiguousMemorySpecifyCache                  x
MmBuildMdlForNonPagedPool                               x
MmFreeContiguousMemorySpecifyCache                      x
MmGetPhysicalAddress                    x               x
MmHighestUserAddress                                    x
MmLockPagableDataSection                                x
MmMapIoSpace                            x       x       x
MmUnlockPagableImageSection                             x
MmUnmapIoSpace                          x       x       x
NlsMbCodePageTag                                        x
ObfDereferenceObject                    x               x
ObfReferenceObject                      x               x
ObReferenceObjectByHandle                               x
ObReferenceObjectByPointer                              x
PoCallDriver                                            x
PoRegisterDeviceForIdleDetection                        x
PoRequestPowerIrp                                       x
PoSetPowerState                                         x
PoStartNextPowerIrp                                     x
RtlAnsiStringToUnicodeString                    x       x
RtlAppendUnicodeStringToString                  x       x
RtlAreBitsSet                                           x
RtlAssert                               x               
RtlClearAllBits                         x               x
RtlClearBits                            x               x
RtlCompareMemory                                x       
RtlCopyUnicodeString                            x       x
RtlFindClearBitsAndSet                  x               x
RtlFreeUnicodeString                            x       x
RtlInitAnsiString                               x       x
RtlInitializeBitMap                     x               x
RtlInitUnicodeString                    x       x       x
RtlIntegerToUnicodeString                       x       x
RtlMoveMemory                           x               
RtlZeroMemory                           x               
RtlQueryRegistryValues                                  x
RtlSetBits                                              x
RtlStringFromGUID                                       x
RtlUnicodeStringToAnsiString                    x       x
RtlUnicodeStringToInteger                               x
RtlxAnsiStringToUnicodeSize                             x
RtlUnwind                                       x       
sprintf                                 x       x       x
swprintf                                x               x
vsprintf                                x               
wcslen                                  x       x       x
wcsrchr                                 x               
ZwClose                                 x       x       x
ZwCreateDirectoryObject                                 x
ZwCreateKey                             x       x       x
ZwDeleteKey                                             x
ZwEnumerateValueKey                             x       x
ZwOpenKey                                       x       x
ZwQueryValueKey                                 x       x
ZwSetValueKey                           x       x       x

[Rouven Weßling]

No

Microsoft lost big parts of the Source Code of Windows 200 & NT 4.0 (more NT
4 then 200). But it's not enough source code to compile your own Windows!

pentiumforever

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: ros-dev-bounces(a)reactos.com [mailto:[e-mail]] Im
Auftrag von Hartmut Birr
Gesendet: Freitag, 11. März 2005 17:54
An: ReactOS Development List
Betreff: Re: [ros-dev] Saying To All

Thomas Larsen schrieb:

>  4. Disam shell32 and scsiport.sys Theire where lot of
> places where it where 
identical
>    
>  
The M$ compiler and gcc is very different. If you compare the assembler
code which is compiled from the same source, you can found the same
functions bodies, but inside the functions there are many differences.
Some time ago, I've ported a simple driver for an eprom programer from
M$ tools to the ReactOS build system. At the start it hasn't worked,
because I forgot the stdcall attributes for some functions. The
reassembled code was very different.

>  5. Microsoft Source leak my friend just downloaded it i
> got parts of the 
code what could be on my
>1,33 mb floppy
>    
>  
If you was interessted to compare the ros and M$ code, you have never
worked with a floppy. It is too simple to burn a cd or dvd.

>  6. Saw scsiport.sys where 90% identical i layout and
> code and alittel of 
shell32
>    
>  
Some parts of scsiport are from me. I've never seen the scsiport sources
from M$. I'm not sure which code from M$ you know. Our scsiport is more
compatible with the NT4.0 one. I've test many scsi controller with its
NT 4.0 drivers (adaptect 2940, ataptec on asus p2d, dmx3194uw, diamond
fireport, tekram dc390, initio a100, some with different lsi chipset,
some with initio 950 chip set). I think M$ has lost the W2K sourcesand
not the NT4.0 one. Our scsiport is very different from W2k and it is
different from NT4.0. I've add a list of imported functions. Some
functions are very specific for the implemention. ReactOS doesn't use
IoFreeMdl, IoFreeIrp, the DeviceQueu functions and some others. Many
things may nearly the same, bcause they must implement the some
functions. Our implementation is different from M$. The different
imported functions shows this. You cannot find 90% identical, if you
compare our source with the M$ source.

- Hartmut

[Wesley Parish]

>  From what I made out from all the hooha over the leaked
> source code, it was  
about the same size (in MB) of NT 4.0 and Win2k.  NT 4.0 is
significantly 
smaller than Win2k - I've installed both for a course I did in A+ - though 
it's nowhere near as small as NT 3.1.

Consequently, a lot more NT 4.0 source code got leaked than did Win2k.  (I've 
never seen it - and I don't want to, unless I've got a declaration from 
Microsoft that the NT source code (3.1 to 5.1) is now available under an 
acceptable Open Source license - preferrably 3-clause BSDL, since they appear 
to like that! ;-)  I won't even look at MS Academic Shared Source source code 
at University, because MS are that paranoid, and are willing to throw "mental 
contamination" theories around like a pyromaniac with a flamethrower.

Reverse engineering's a different story, because Microsoft Press has published 
"Inside Windows NT", several editions including the Win2k one, and I kid you 
not, they give detailed instructions on reverse-engineering NT.  "Tools for 
Digging into Windows NT Internals" - that ring a bell?  i386kd, windbg, 
apimon, gflags, pwalk, pfmon, I could go on ...  David A. Solomon goes into 
detail.

But as I understand it, ReactOS is an NT-class/style/type kernel (much in the 
way NT itself is a VMS-class kernel with a Win32 userland.) with a Wine-based 
userland, and reverse-engineering wasn't involved in either developing the 
kernel or in developing the Win32 userland.

I'm getting sick of these people with unsupported allegations.

Wesley Parish

On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 06:18, Rouven Weßling wrote:
>   No
>
>  Microsoft lost big parts of the Source Code of Windows 200 & NT 4.0 (more
>  NT 4 then 200). But it's not enough source code to compile your own
>  Windows!
>
>  pentiumforever
>
>  -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>  Von: ros-dev-bounces(a)reactos.com [mailto:[e-mail]] Im
>  Auftrag von Hartmut Birr
>  Gesendet: Freitag, 11. März 2005 17:54
>  An: ReactOS Development List
>  Betreff: Re: [ros-dev] Saying To All
>
>  Thomas Larsen schrieb:
> >  4. Disam shell32 and scsiport.sys Theire where lot
> > of places where it
> >  where 
>  identical
>
>
>  The M$ compiler and gcc is very different. If you compare the assembler
>  code which is compiled from the same source, you can found the same
>  functions bodies, but inside the functions there are many differences.
>  Some time ago, I've ported a simple driver for an eprom programer from
>  M$ tools to the ReactOS build system. At the start it hasn't worked,
>  because I forgot the stdcall attributes for some functions. The
>  reassembled code was very different.
>
> >  5. Microsoft Source leak my friend just downloaded
> > it i got parts of the 
>  code what could be on my
>
> >  1,33 mb floppy 
>  If you was interessted to compare the ros and M$ code, you have never
>  worked with a floppy. It is too simple to burn a cd or dvd.
>
> >  6. Saw scsiport.sys where 90% identical i layout
> > and code and alittel of 
>  shell32
>
>
>  Some parts of scsiport are from me. I've never seen the scsiport sources
>  from M$. I'm not sure which code from M$ you know. Our scsiport is more
>  compatible with the NT4.0 one. I've test many scsi controller with its
>  NT 4.0 drivers (adaptect 2940, ataptec on asus p2d, dmx3194uw, diamond
>  fireport, tekram dc390, initio a100, some with different lsi chipset,
>  some with initio 950 chip set). I think M$ has lost the W2K sourcesand
>  not the NT4.0 one. Our scsiport is very different from W2k and it is
>  different from NT4.0. I've add a list of imported functions. Some
>  functions are very specific for the implemention. ReactOS doesn't use
>  IoFreeMdl, IoFreeIrp, the DeviceQueu functions and some others. Many
>  things may nearly the same, bcause they must implement the some
>  functions. Our implementation is different from M$. The different
>  imported functions shows this. You cannot find 90% identical, if you
>  compare our source with the M$ source.
>
>  - Hartmut
>
>
>
>
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