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RE: [ros-diffs] [mflyer] 21918: Sorry Ged, but that's not the Rea ctOS logo.
by mf 19 May '06

19 May '06

(sorry for initially having accidentally sent this mail to ros-general instead of ros-dev) > The ReactOS logo is an ugly design. Until you manage to get that wonky off-balance thing you prefer to be accepted as the official logo, whether it is ugly or not is not relevant. There is a procedure for changing established things. Your method of just going ahead and changing things without asking is not only rude but wrong. If you want to change things, you will have to go through me first. If you have a problem with me, you have a problem with changing things. So I suggest you consider your options. > Also, it's far too complex to be used as a start button image and looks out of place. It's a bloody orb with wisps (rings) around it. Complex my eye. > The official Windows logo isn't used on the start button. A neater version is used in the same way. A "neater version". You mean the shadow? I have employed a similar way to make the icon clear at 16x16: http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/4972/startthingie3yn.png As you can see, both with Windows and with ReactOS, it's practically the same thing. I'm beginning to get the idea you are making arguments up for the sake of having arguments in your offence. > This logo is the original ReactOS start menu logo and should be kept IMO. It's as much a placeholder as the "original" Everaldo icons were. mf

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RE: [ros-diffs] [mflyer] 21918: Sorry Ged, but that's not the Rea ctOS logo.
by mf 19 May '06

19 May '06

> I know it is alot people reactos user and > devloper dislike the new logo. > if u do not revert it, (restore to the old one) > I will do it this weekend. GreatLord, there *IS* no new logo. The icon I re-committed has been in ReactOS since r14357. That's March 27th 2005. Nobody objected back then, yet now there's a fuss? Please mind your own business if you don't know exactly what's going on. Thanks. mf

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Re: Sorry Ged, but that's not the ReactOS logo.
by Ged Murphy 19 May '06

19 May '06

mf wrote: > Until you manage to get that wonky off-balance thing you prefer to be > accepted as the official logo, whether it is ugly or not is not > relevant. There is a procedure for changing established things. Your > method of just going ahead and changing things without asking is not > only rude but wrong. I highly disagree with the fact that everyone must go through you. If we initiated a kernel coordinator, do you also suggest that all kernel work must be approved by them too? Taking into account the smarmy comment which went along with the change, it was my impression you changed it back just to try and annoy me. Many of the developers I have spoken to agree that the original icon is better. Nobody seems to want to say anything to you for fear of upsetting you though. Great! > If you want to change things, you will have to go > through me first. If you have a problem with me, you have a problem > with changing things. So I suggest you consider your options. > I have just considered my options. I choose to stop work on the UI as of now. The fact that you've tried to alienate me many times, and now in public seals the fact that we can't work together. I was the only person interested in working on the UI, and you managed to take the fun out of it for me, are you sure you are the right man for the job? I tend to think not. Ged.

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0.3.0
by Maarten Bosma 19 May '06

19 May '06

When do we want feature freeze for 0.3.0 ? Or asked the other way around which features do you want to implement for 0.3.0 ? Maarten Bosma

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Re: [ros-general] RE: [ros-diffs] [mflyer] 21918: Sorry Ged, but that's not the Rea ctOS logo.
by Magnus Olsen 18 May '06

18 May '06

Hi The new logo se does not look like reactos any longer it is to dark and pixel, the balas and constrast in the new logo is bad, it does not match at all, and it look not prof have made it. more like a childer. So please revert the new logo and keep, the old one. If u look in ros it does not match the constrast or any think. A logo should not be pixel or constat does not match. That is exacly in the new logo u have done MF. I know it is alot people reactos user and devloper dislike the new logo. if u do not revert it, (restore to the old one) I will do it this weekend. Magnus Olsen (GreatLord) ReactOS Devloper ----- Original Message ----- From: "mf" <mf(a)mufunyo.net> To: <ros-general(a)reactos.org> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 11:53 PM Subject: [ros-general] RE: [ros-diffs] [mflyer] 21918: Sorry Ged,but that's not the Rea ctOS logo. > > The ReactOS logo is an ugly design. > Until you manage to get that wonky off-balance thing you prefer to be > accepted as the official logo, whether it is ugly or not is not > relevant. There is a procedure for changing established things. Your > method of just going ahead and changing things without asking is not > only rude but wrong. If you want to change things, you will have to go > through me first. If you have a problem with me, you have a problem > with changing things. So I suggest you consider your options. > > > Also, it's far too complex to be used as a start button image and looks out > of place. > It's a bloody orb with wisps (rings) around it. Complex my eye. > > > The official Windows logo isn't used on the start button. A neater version > is used in the same way. > > A "neater version". You mean the shadow? I have employed a similar way > to make the icon clear at 16x16: > > http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/4972/startthingie3yn.png > > As you can see, both with Windows and with ReactOS, it's practically > the same thing. I'm beginning to get the idea you are making arguments > up for the sake of having arguments in your offence. > > > This logo is the original ReactOS start menu logo and should be kept IMO. > It's as much a placeholder as the "original" Everaldo icons were. > > mf > > _______________________________________________ > Ros-general mailing list > Ros-general(a)reactos.org > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general

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Process Names
by James Tabor 18 May '06

18 May '06

Hi, Here is a screen shot of taskmgr with the process names displayed. Or lack of? Thanks, James

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To end all rumours...
by Alex Ionescu 18 May '06

18 May '06

Aleksey and I thought it would be a good idea to end rumours and write up an official stance on the topic, so here is a paste from the website, for those of you that don't read it: -- The official letter written by project coordinators of these projects by fireball on 2006-05-18 ReactOS and TinyKRNL projects' official relationship Prepared by Aleksey Bragin and Alex Ionescu, Project Coordinators. There is a little information posted officially about TinyKRNL project and this provides a base for gossip to appear. This short article is intended to clear up official relations between these two projects. TinyKRNL is an educational and documentation project which creates plug-in replacements for various modules of Windows 2003 SP 1 (ultimately replacing the kernel too) and a series of papers ultimately combined into a book. The methods used for development of TinyKRNL’s modules source code involve all possible methods of achieving the end result of having a 100% compatible (or even identical) result. Reverse engineering is one of them (mainly so-called ‘dirty’ way, for further reference see Wikipedia’s article about clean room reverse engineering vs. dirty room reversing). Unfortunately, due to copyright laws and other law-related stuff, ReactOS (which aims at commercial usage too) can not directly utilize methods of development like dirty reverse engineering, and thus ReactOS can not share all code with the TinyKRNL project like we are sharing code with WINE. However, there are some very useful exceptions: * Firstly, all interfaces are shared. This gives ReactOS project an unbeatable level of compatibility and legal freedom too (interfaces can not be copyrighted). * Secondly, the great thing is that TinyKRNL will provide the most complete documentation of the most recent and technically advanced version of a released NT-famility operating system – Windows 2003 SP1. ReactOS developers can use this documentation for reference when creating a clean implementation of functions or improving already developed code. * Thirdly, any code in TinyKRNL which respects the ReactOS policies regarding development can directly be added into ReactOS, as well as any build tools or 3rd-party files. For more detailed information regarding TinyKRNL project, please look at http://www.tinykrnl.org. We also encourage you to signup on the TinyKRNL . We also encourage you to signup on the TinyKRNL development Mailing List by sending a blank email to devel-subscribe(a)tinykrnl.org as well as joining the #tinykrnl channel on the same IRC server as #reactos; many of the ReactOS developers and users are usually present and discuss interesting and challenging kernel issues as well as general off-topic chat. --

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RE: [ros-diffs] [mflyer] 21918: Sorry Ged, but that's not the Rea ctOS logo.
by Murphy, Ged (Bolton) 17 May '06

17 May '06

mflyer(a)svn.reactos.org wrote: > Sorry Ged, but that's not the ReactOS logo. The ReactOS logo is an ugly design. Also, it's far too complex to be used as a start button image and looks out of place. The official Windows logo isn't used on the start button. A neater version is used in the same way. This logo is the original ReactOS start menu logo and should be kept IMO. ************************************************************************ The information contained in this message or any of its attachments is confidential and is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee. The information may also be legally privileged. The views expressed may not be company policy, but the personal views of the originator. If you are not the addressee, any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other dissemination or use of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact postmaster(a)exideuk.co.uk <mailto:postmaster@exideuk.co.uk> and then delete this message. Exide Technologies is an industrial and transportation battery producer and recycler with operations in 89 countries. Further information can be found at www.exide.com

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David Welch - ping
by Brandon Turner 12 May '06

12 May '06

Will the real David Welch please stand up?

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0.3.1
by Maarten Bosma 12 May '06

12 May '06

Can we agree on the following goals for 0.3.1 ? - NDK - Cache Manager Rewrite - VMware Tools - Ext2 It would mean that we would release 0.3.1 very closely after 0.3.0. Maarten Bosma

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