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disussion from forum
by 3th.voice＠googlemail.com 13 Aug '07

13 Aug '07

Hi ReactOS guy's, are you not able to discuss a topic in your forum or why did you delete my post in http://www.reactos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4307 ? Here is it again: [quote="jimtabor"] The irc meetings, there are two I think. It was voting on how to do the audit. Later if I remember right, we started movie review and joking around with unrelated issues. [/quote] I'm missing something about the meetings. [url= http://www.reactos.org/archives/public/ros-dev/2006-January/007478.html]Ste…'s mail[/url] starts with: [quote="Steven Edwards"] There has been a lot of talk about possible tainted code in ReactOS and or developers that had access to leaked Microsoft source code. [/quote] and later [quote="Steven Edwards"] We know of four developers who have had access to leaked sources prior to working on ReactOS.. [/quote] Depend on the [url=http://www.reactos.org/en/dev_legalreview.html]ReactOSproject development policy[/url] [quote="ReactOS project development policy"] Developers who have had access to proprietary source code that would have originally fallen under trade secret protection (including, for example, the leaked Microsoft Windows source code) are a special case. The copyright issues are unchanged, as are the patent issues, but any developer who has the code is clearly either under an NDA or else does not have a license to possess the code. In the latter case, there is a clear violation of the relevant trade secrets by the developer. As such, this kind of code is unsuitable even for research and understanding. It is the policy of the Project to not take submissions from developers who have or use any such proprietary code in their development efforts for ReactOS. [/quote] this developers have to be banned from the project. Steven's mail or the developer's voting wasn't so restrictive: [quote="Steven Edwards"] 4) any developer that had access to leaked sources is baned from contributing code to the project for any of the modules that are the same as leaked sources they examined. [/quote] The question is, why are the tainted developers not banned? If only a few of the developers had access to the leaked windows source code, it is not a problem to ban them. I think more than four developers had access to the leaked windows source code. In this case it will never get a vote for banning the tainted developers, because they must ban itself. It exists the 'Open letter to all' from Alex. I've got the original mail with all the names from one of the developers. [quote="Alex's 'Open letter to all'"] /*Steven, Aleksey, Mike and myself had leaked windows code and looked at it. KJK, Eric, Filip, Magnus and Marteen had IDA and used it for reverse engineering. 9 developers, and these are only some cases.*/ Herve too, sometimes used IDA to verify some flags (I once helped him understand a weird DEVICE_EXTENSION structure), and Thomas, although against reverse-engineering, also used IDA to verify some implementations, although he said he never used it to actually reverse-engineer, and I believe him, although, once you have seen the taint, it's hard to really psycologically prove how much you were, or were not influenced by it. /*With more then 2/3rds of the entire developer team having broken the law and/or our IP policy, I continued my work in the same way.*/ [/quote] Now the story make sense. The implementation of ReactOS is based on the leaked windows source code and possible more than the four named developers had or have access to this code. [quote="jimtabor"] As you all can see, things have gone on to this project. Money was the key word here. Wine, Casper, GvG, hbirr etc,,, mass manipulation to gain from other peoples work. [/quote] And now it makes sense why you accuse some of the developers, which had left the project, that they have done something for money... The only developer, which has something to do with money, is Alex. In May he was bought by Microsoft.

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About keyboard layouts...
by João Jerónimo 11 Jul '07

11 Jul '07

Just a little question. Does ROS currently support deadkeys for keyboard layout DLLs? JJ __________________________________________________ Fa�a liga��es para outros computadores com o novo Yahoo! Messenger http://br.beta.messenger.yahoo.com/

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Re: [ros-general] [ros-dev] A New Direction
by John Skinner 03 Jul '07

03 Jul '07

hahahahahahhhahahaha No I didn't read the fine print. I guess I'll just get fitted for my ball and chain John > James Tabor <jimtabor(a)adsl-64-217-116-74.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net> wrote: > > Hi, > Sorry your resignation is disapproved. Did you read the fine print? > > You are a member for life! > 8^D > James > _______________________________________________ > Ros-general mailing list > Ros-general(a)reactos.org > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general

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A New Direction
by Alex Ionescu 03 Jul '07

03 Jul '07

It is with great excitement (and a certain amount of nostalgia) that I would like to announce two important changes in my professional life and in the direction in which I will pursue my knowledge and work on Windows Internals. The first of these changes is my debut as an instructor for David Solomon's Expert Seminars <http://www.solsem.com/>, and the second is my departure from ReactOS <http://www.reactos.org/>, effective immediately. These plans do not change in any way my internship at Apple which will take place during the summer. Some time ago, I had the great privilege of being approached by David Solomon, a well-known and highly regarded computer expert, teacher, consultant and co-author of Windows Internals 4th Edition<http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/information/windowsinternals.…>(and Inside Windows 2000, 3 rd Edition). For the last couple of years, David had been working with Mark Russinovich, another respected figure in the world of Windows Internals, and co-founder of Winternals and Sysinternals as well as developer of some of the most useful Windows system tools available today. Apart from working on the two books (which Mark was a co-author of), they both provided trainings and seminars on Windows internals under the "David Solomon Expert Seminars" banner. As is widely known, Microsoft realized that Mark's experience and amazing work on the NT platform through his articles and tools could provide a highly beneficial new addition to the company. The company bought Winternals last year, and hired Mark at the highest technical level in the company, Technical Fellow. All this is history of course, and back to the matter at hand, Mark's recent new employment made him unavailable for teaching new classes, which made David Solomon start the search for a new instructor which could take on the responsibility of teaching new classes. I was highly honoured to have been chosen as this person, and accepted this unique opportunity to bring my knowledge out to many more people and to work with one of my most admired Windows experts. With this new job as an added task on top of my already busy life, as well as with the imminent Apple internship, I was already planning to cut back on my involvement with ReactOS. However, since it became clear that my level of contact with Microsoft employees and resources would be in conflict with my work at ReactOS, I made the difficult choice of amicably severing my ties with the project. This decision took some time for me to finalize, but the various motivations behind it had started cropping up since early this year. When I first joined ReactOS 3 years ago, the kernel was – in my opinion – highly disorganized and hodgepodge of Linux, NT 4, Wine and Windows 9x code which was very far from its actual goal of NT Driver compatibility. In fact, the development model seemed to focus on hacking NT drivers to work on ReactOS, and not vice-versa. Coincidentally, I joined the project just as the lead kernel developer, David Welch, had just burnt out and moved to other projects and goals. For the last three years, I rewrote key subsystems such as the thread scheduler, dispatcher, locking and IRQL mechanisms, HAL, executive support, object manager, process manager, I/O manager, basic VDM and 8086 support, and much more, as well as switched the project goals from NT4 to NT 5.2. My ability to do this came from my extensive reverse engineering of the kernel in the past, reading internals books, access to the DDK/IFS, as well as using WinDBG and .pdb type information. In return for all the code and guidance I provided, the project gave me a lot in return as well, including a unique perspective of working on such a project, the ability to work in large and distributed teams, and using open source tools for Windows NT kernel development. With millions of lines of code, ReactOS is the kind of project that an 18 year old could've only dreamt work ing on. I became adept in source control repositories, regression testing, unit testing, team management, IRC administration, as well as a much better coder in C. I also made friendships of all levels with various developers, testers and users, and had a chance to mentor two students during last year's Google Summer of Code. I was able to attend and give talks on ReactOS, exhibit it, and make connections with other people in the industry, and in the open source world. Overall, it's been an exhilarating adventure. After three years however, and with the many new responsibilities that had kept growing, my free time grew short. Additionally, my work in the kernel had almost reached completion. The parts that still need major work, in my opinion, require extremely skilled developers in those areas to ever be as close to NT as needed. They are also some of the most critical: the memory manager, the cache manager, the Power/PnP Manager, the configuration manager and the file system runtime library. With the current differences that exist, most modern WDM drivers as well as IFS drivers can only dream of running properly. Unfortunately, my knowledge in those areas was limited. I had never reverse engineered them as extensively as parts of the executive, and documentation on their guts is limited. In all honesty, they're also not parts of the system that interest me much. I could, of course, have continued working on user-mode parts of the system where my help would still bring a lot of the system forward, such as ntdll, csrss, smss, winsock and kernel32, but my interest in teaching with David Solomon and getting in touch with the developers behind NT outweighed that desire. After three years, I learned a tremendous amount of knowledge and skills while working on ReactOS, now the time has come for me to learn even more by expanding my horizons. In many ways, I had already outgrown the project, focusing more on security research, utilities and tools, articles and non-ReactOS related talks and conferences. It was time for me to step outside and take on a new opportunity with a larger audience and which would bring me many new experiences and teachings. I wish the ReactOS Project all the luck and I know that some significant new changes are on the horizon for them. I will keep watching from a distance, and I thank them for the most fun years of my life.- -- Best regards, Alex Ionescu

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Re: [ros-general] ReactOS on Windows 98 from a setup on the hard disk
by KEVIN LAWTON 17 Jun '07

17 Jun '07

Somelese ? Have you tried Minix, MenuetOS or BeOS ? All run very nicely on my own P200MMX. Kevin. --------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ---- From: carlo.bramix <carlo.bramix(a)libero.it> To: ros-general <ros-general(a)reactos.org> Sent: Sunday, 17 June, 2007 2:40:33 PM Subject: Re: [ros-general] ReactOS on Windows 98 from a setup on the hard disk He he... I don't think it's a bad idea. I'm running Win95 on a 486DX-33MHz and Win98 on my Pentium 200 MHz with MMX technology. I doubt I could install something else on these platforms. Oh, yes, I forgot FreeDOS... Personally, I would welcome all suggestions for making the life easier on older PCs too. Sincerely, Carlo Bramini. ---------- Initial Header ----------- >From : ros-general-bounces(a)reactos.org To : "ReactOS General List" ros-general(a)reactos.org Cc : Date : Fri, 15 Jun 2007 20:58:09 +0800 Subject : Re: [ros-general] ReactOS on Windows 98 from a setup on the hard disk > I guess there are 'few' or maybe none Windows98 running anymore... > Even the 3rd world countries now are running pirated vistas... :-) > > Jett > > On 06 14, 07, at 2:05 PM, nativan(a)vollbio.de wrote: > > > I suggest to make a version of ReactOS available for download that > > can install ReactOS on Windows 98 or on DOS from a setup.exe on the > > hard disk without the need of a CD > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > Ros-general mailing list > Ros-general(a)reactos.org > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general > ------------------------------------------------------ Leggi GRATIS le tue mail con il telefonino i-mode™ di Wind http://i-mode.wind.it/ _______________________________________________ Ros-general mailing list Ros-general(a)reactos.org http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general

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Re: [ros-general] ReactOS on Windows 98 from a setup on the hard disk
by carlo.bramix 17 Jun '07

17 Jun '07

He he... I don't think it's a bad idea. I'm running Win95 on a 486DX-33MHz and Win98 on my Pentium 200 MHz with MMX technology. I doubt I could install something else on these platforms. Oh, yes, I forgot FreeDOS... Personally, I would welcome all suggestions for making the life easier on older PCs too. Sincerely, Carlo Bramini. ---------- Initial Header ----------- >From : ros-general-bounces(a)reactos.org To : "ReactOS General List" ros-general(a)reactos.org Cc : Date : Fri, 15 Jun 2007 20:58:09 +0800 Subject : Re: [ros-general] ReactOS on Windows 98 from a setup on the hard disk > I guess there are 'few' or maybe none Windows98 running anymore... > Even the 3rd world countries now are running pirated vistas... :-) > > Jett > > On 06 14, 07, at 2:05 PM, nativan(a)vollbio.de wrote: > > > I suggest to make a version of ReactOS available for download that > > can install ReactOS on Windows 98 or on DOS from a setup.exe on the > > hard disk without the need of a CD > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > Ros-general mailing list > Ros-general(a)reactos.org > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general > ------------------------------------------------------ Leggi GRATIS le tue mail con il telefonino i-mode di Wind http://i-mode.wind.it/

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ReactOS on Windows 98 from a setup on the hard disk
by nativan＠vollbio.de 15 Jun '07

15 Jun '07

I suggest to make a version of ReactOS available for download that can install ReactOS on Windows 98 or on DOS from a setup.exe on the hard disk without the need of a CD -- Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten Browser-Versionen downloaden: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser

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Planned outage of SVN / Web servers
by Aleksey Bragin 24 May '07

24 May '07

Hello, forwarding datacenter's message: "During the night (29.05.2007 to 30.05.2007) datacenter will do planned work with the equipment. Start of the work is planned at 22:00 MSK, finishing by 07:00 MSK. Access to the server may be affected. We're sorry for this inconvenience." This affects our web and svn servers. WBR, Aleksey Bragin.

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simple question
by Joe Noel 22 May '07

22 May '07

I tried running reactOS as a live CD on my Laptop and I got the blue screen all stopped message. would that have to do with the fact that my CPU is an AMD64 ? I love the idea of this project. Joe Noel -- Rightly Dividing the Word of Truth http://www.godstruthfortoday.org/Library/index1.html web page from board, page is in canada http://greater-emmanuel.org/Hope4You/

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Re: [ros-general] Tentative date for completion of auditing
by Aleksey 18 Apr '07

18 Apr '07

Very nice to hear! ----- Original Message ----- From: CK Raju, Thrissur To: ReactOS General List Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 5:58 AM Subject: Re: [ros-general] Tentative date for completion of auditing Thanks James, Yesterday there was a discussion involving teachers of engineering institutions here and a national body involved in promoting Free Software ( www.au-kbc.org/nrcfoss.htm) in technical institutions in India. I made a small presentation before them and informed them about the current status of ReactOS. Currently NRCFOSS is taking all its activities on a GNU Linux centric mode, which needed intervention. FreeDOS is stable, and hopefully ReactOS may soon get to become part of official curriculum - its development. I have not yet gone through the developers list to know who-is-who but am sure to get in touch with most members. Rgds, CK Raju

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