18 Feb
2004
18 Feb
'04
8:51 p.m.
Am Mittwoch, 18. Februar 2004 21:14 schrieb Ricardo Ramalho:
Quite truthfull comments. No doubts. Just don't
make them to Linux, make
those comments about *nix in general. *nix wasn't made for graphics. X was
unix
in general has proper solutions to this problem: X with proper hardware
abstraction in kernel. that just won't work right on x86 without strong
support by hardware vendors .
an add-on. People are trying to put a client/server
architecture working
fast. That needs hacking. But... Isn't Windows hacked in the same way? It
the
client/server part of X11 is actually solved pretty nice and clean. it's
the driver side (which is entirely unrelated to the client/server part) which
is a mess. driver side, as in "kernel related".
this discussion started out with "why not use linux as base of reactos" (moved
to some past form later-on), so of course, I'll only argue about kernel
issues.
surely does not have these problems! It has some
others.
I would say both systems are *equivalent* in this matter...
do they have a
different set of problems or are they equivalent? I'm confused
now.
Inferior in design? LOL! I will *not* comment that
part...
lack of arguments?
The binary driver thing "problem" is one and
one only. The whole system is
open. Why should it be closed for drivers? Those drivers would use code
written with the hard work of others... It's not fair. Why shouldn't they
give the driver's code?
because they have contractual obligations that prevent
them from doing it?
see, nvidia looks for me like a company that bought most of its "intellectual
property" and thus _can't_ release specs or drivers under a half-way free
license, even if they wanted (and there are claims that some of their
technicians really, really want to do that) - just as an example.
still, their driver hugely boosts linux on the market, including the
contributions of other people - why make it harder for them than necessary?
I'm _not_ talking about copying code verbatim, just about some reliable long
term API/ABI contracts for drivers.
You seem to hate Linux with all your nerves. You grow
up. No system is
look at the headers of my mails: mailer on kde/linux, mail server
on netbsd,
smarthost on linux - just to get the facts straight, I have _no_ win32
installation here because I find the user accessible side of win32
inconvenient (unlike the linux GUIs), while I can ignore the kernel
weaknesses of linux as I don't need to do kernel hacking every day.
perfect! Some are better on some respects... Some are
better on others. We
should all learn with what others do.
linux is good on methodology (which leads to
a solid implementation), so
ReactOS roughly models it. fine.
WinNT is good when employing a pretty solid, half-way modern design, so
ReactOS models it, closely. also, fine.
so ReactOS learned, and I'm happy (even if I'm not a developer for ROS, due to
other priorities). In the end, ROS is able to get a good development method,
a solid implementation based on a working, reliable design - isn't that the
goal?
Some people here are immensely *arrogant*! That's
NOT good for the project.
Regardless of the quality of their work.
I gather that in your opinion Linux
Fanboyism is not arrogant, yes? _that_ is
NOT good for the deployment of the project as it make linux people look like
zealots instead of reasonable people (which most of them are, but you now -
guilty by association etc)
patrick mauritz
(if any of you consider this subtread offtopic, tell me off-list and I'll shut
up)