Am Mittwoch, 18. Februar 2004 21:14 schrieb Ricardo Ramalho:
Quite truthfull comments. No doubts. Just don't make them to Linux, make those comments about *nix in general. *nix wasn't made for graphics. X was
unix in general has proper solutions to this problem: X with proper hardware abstraction in kernel. that just won't work right on x86 without strong support by hardware vendors .
an add-on. People are trying to put a client/server architecture working fast. That needs hacking. But... Isn't Windows hacked in the same way? It
the client/server part of X11 is actually solved pretty nice and clean. it's the driver side (which is entirely unrelated to the client/server part) which is a mess. driver side, as in "kernel related". this discussion started out with "why not use linux as base of reactos" (moved to some past form later-on), so of course, I'll only argue about kernel issues.
surely does not have these problems! It has some others.
I would say both systems are *equivalent* in this matter...
do they have a different set of problems or are they equivalent? I'm confused now.
Inferior in design? LOL! I will *not* comment that part...
lack of arguments?
The binary driver thing "problem" is one and one only. The whole system is open. Why should it be closed for drivers? Those drivers would use code written with the hard work of others... It's not fair. Why shouldn't they give the driver's code?
because they have contractual obligations that prevent them from doing it?
see, nvidia looks for me like a company that bought most of its "intellectual property" and thus _can't_ release specs or drivers under a half-way free license, even if they wanted (and there are claims that some of their technicians really, really want to do that) - just as an example.
still, their driver hugely boosts linux on the market, including the contributions of other people - why make it harder for them than necessary?
I'm _not_ talking about copying code verbatim, just about some reliable long term API/ABI contracts for drivers.
You seem to hate Linux with all your nerves. You grow up. No system is
look at the headers of my mails: mailer on kde/linux, mail server on netbsd, smarthost on linux - just to get the facts straight, I have _no_ win32 installation here because I find the user accessible side of win32 inconvenient (unlike the linux GUIs), while I can ignore the kernel weaknesses of linux as I don't need to do kernel hacking every day.
perfect! Some are better on some respects... Some are better on others. We should all learn with what others do.
linux is good on methodology (which leads to a solid implementation), so ReactOS roughly models it. fine. WinNT is good when employing a pretty solid, half-way modern design, so ReactOS models it, closely. also, fine.
so ReactOS learned, and I'm happy (even if I'm not a developer for ROS, due to other priorities). In the end, ROS is able to get a good development method, a solid implementation based on a working, reliable design - isn't that the goal?
Some people here are immensely *arrogant*! That's NOT good for the project. Regardless of the quality of their work.
I gather that in your opinion Linux Fanboyism is not arrogant, yes? _that_ is NOT good for the deployment of the project as it make linux people look like zealots instead of reasonable people (which most of them are, but you now - guilty by association etc)
patrick mauritz
(if any of you consider this subtread offtopic, tell me off-list and I'll shut up)