Hi Did everyone get this too? James
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 16:31:03 +0200 From: Rafa? rafkup@gmail.com
Hi.
I am writing to you in the name of all BetaComp Team members, because we're thinking, that you are the best from the best. We make new operating system firstly based on ReactOS <http://www.reactos.com http://www.reactos.com/> (the part of you work on ReactOS or did it in the past). Why base on ReactOS? The answer is very simple. HostiliX (this is a name of our OS) is compatible with Windows(R) and ReactOS is compatible with Microsoft(C) product too, so we based HostiliX on ReactOS, because we don't want to waste our time to do something what is already done. Now suggest next question: Why are we doing Windows(R) clone? We are not making a Windows clone! Just most hardware manufacturers do drivers only for Windows(R), so we want to HostiliX be able to use it. We don't have time to do drivers! The same situation is with Windows applications. Most users need Windows(R) software. We want to permit them to use free operating system and them's favourite software. But running Windows software isn't our priority! We want to make new, fast, stable and secure operating system. It will have its' own SubSystem using CygWin, or CygWin clone, so it will run modified Linux applications. POSIX SubSystem must be modified of course. There won't be root directory (/). All ported from Linux to HostiliX software will use drive letters like A:, C:, (...). The will be also OS/2(R) and DOS(R) SubSystems.
FAQ:
Q: How want we to do drive letters in ported from Linux software? A: We want to modify libraries like GTK and QT (dialog windows) and add into it drive litters support. PosiX Layer will modify all slashes to backslash and if any program want to access / directory PosiX Layer will translate it to for example C:\HostiliX\System32\Posix where will be usr, bin, sbin and folders. Directory structure of Posix dir will be compatible with Unix directory structure. All drive letters will have shortcuts (will be mounted) somewhere in this directory. Using modified open/save/etc dialog windows user will feel that he uses any Windows application.
Q: What's our pririty? A: Make HostiliX stable fast and secure with all features like logging in/out, switching user, shutting down system (power off, reboot and hibernate).
Q: Will be hibernate just a hibernate? :P A: No! When system call hibernate process it will close all network connections and then unload drivers to all network hardware. Then will hibernate computer. After user power on computer again HostiliX will boot up from hibernation and then loads again unloaded before hibernation process drivers. What it adds? Let's imagine that you have Sagem Fast 800 ADSL Modem Connected to USB. When you power off your computer, driver will load, but modem will be unsynchronised with line. HostiliX will load this driver again, synchronise modem and connect to Internet again.
Q: Why don't we help ReactOS Team? A: There's a few reasons. First: We don't want to do Windows clone. HostiliX will be only able to load Windows(R) drivers and run Windows(R) software, when we will do more and repair existing I/O Functions. Second: Windows software compatibility isn't our priority! Third: We don't like ReactOS Team policy. They're doing anything like this in Windows(R). They even cloned Explorer. We only want to compatible with Windows(R) startup, shutdown (without hibernate), login processes. But it won't looks like Windows. HostiliX will have its' own GUI (it's GDI + XOrg with theming support).
If you have any other questions to us, if something isn't clear, please write to me. I'll reply and answer to all your questions!
Why I write to you? Because we (BetaComp Team) think, that you're the best from the best. We need more people to write really good OS. If you have free time and want to make really great Operating System for home and business please help us! Please reply.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Yours faithfully, Rafal Kupiec BetaComp Team
2005/7/2, James Tabor jimtabor@adsl-64-217-116-74.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net:
Hi Did everyone get this too? James
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 16:31:03 +0200 [...] From: Rafa? rafkup@gmail.com Q: Why don't we help ReactOS Team? A: There's a few reasons. First: We don't want to do Windows clone. HostiliX will be only able to load Windows(R) drivers and run Windows(R) software, when we will do more and repair existing I/O Functions. Second: Windows software compatibility isn't our priority! Third: We don't like ReactOS Team policy. They're doing anything like this in Windows(R). They even cloned Explorer. We only want to compatible with Windows(R) startup, shutdown (without hibernate), login processes. But it won't looks like Windows. HostiliX will have its' own GUI (it's GDI + XOrg with theming support).
Of course I didn't get this mail because I "even cloned Explorer". ;-)
Martin Fuchs wrote:
2005/7/2, James Tabor jimtabor@adsl-64-217-116-74.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net:
Hi Did everyone get this too? James
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 16:31:03 +0200 [...] From: Rafa? rafkup@gmail.com Q: Why don't we help ReactOS Team? A: There's a few reasons. First: We don't want to do Windows clone. HostiliX will be only able to load Windows(R) drivers and run Windows(R) software, when we will do more and repair existing I/O Functions. Second: Windows software compatibility isn't our priority! Third: We don't like ReactOS Team policy. They're doing anything like this in Windows(R). They even cloned Explorer. We only want to compatible with Windows(R) startup, shutdown (without hibernate), login processes. But it won't looks like Windows. HostiliX will have its' own GUI (it's GDI + XOrg with theming support).
Of course I didn't get this mail because I "even cloned Explorer". ;-)
Yeah, port Xpde gui to windows with Delphi. http://www.xpde.com James
James Tabor wrote:
Hi Did everyone get this too? James
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 16:31:03 +0200 From: Rafa? rafkup@gmail.com
Hi.
I am writing to you in the name of all BetaComp Team members, because we're thinking, that you are the best from the best. We make new operating system firstly based on ReactOS <http://www.reactos.com http://www.reactos.com/> (the part of you work on ReactOS or did it in the past). Why base on ReactOS? The answer is very simple. HostiliX (this is a name of our OS) is compatible with Windows(R) and ReactOS is compatible with Microsoft(C) product too, so we based HostiliX on ReactOS, because we don't want to waste our time to do something what is already done. Now suggest next question: Why are we doing Windows(R) clone? We are not making a Windows clone! Just most hardware manufacturers do drivers only for Windows(R), so we want to HostiliX be able to use it. We don't have time to do drivers! The same situation is with Windows applications. Most users need Windows(R) software. We want to permit them to use free operating system and them's favourite software. But running Windows software isn't our priority! We want to make new, fast, stable and secure operating system. It will have its' own SubSystem using CygWin, or CygWin clone, so it will run modified Linux applications. POSIX SubSystem must be modified of course. There won't be root directory (/). All ported from Linux to HostiliX software will use drive letters like A:, C:, (...). The will be also OS/2(R) and DOS(R) SubSystems.
FAQ:
Q: How want we to do drive letters in ported from Linux software? A: We want to modify libraries like GTK and QT (dialog windows) and add into it drive litters support. PosiX Layer will modify all slashes to backslash and if any program want to access / directory PosiX Layer will translate it to for example C:\HostiliX\System32\Posix where will be usr, bin, sbin and folders. Directory structure of Posix dir will be compatible with Unix directory structure. All drive letters will have shortcuts (will be mounted) somewhere in this directory. Using modified open/save/etc dialog windows user will feel that he uses any Windows application.
Q: What's our pririty? A: Make HostiliX stable fast and secure with all features like logging in/out, switching user, shutting down system (power off, reboot and hibernate).
Q: Will be hibernate just a hibernate? :P A: No! When system call hibernate process it will close all network connections and then unload drivers to all network hardware. Then will hibernate computer. After user power on computer again HostiliX will boot up from hibernation and then loads again unloaded before hibernation process drivers. What it adds? Let's imagine that you have Sagem Fast 800 ADSL Modem Connected to USB. When you power off your computer, driver will load, but modem will be unsynchronised with line. HostiliX will load this driver again, synchronise modem and connect to Internet again.
Q: Why don't we help ReactOS Team? A: There's a few reasons. First: We don't want to do Windows clone. HostiliX will be only able to load Windows(R) drivers and run Windows(R) software, when we will do more and repair existing I/O Functions. Second: Windows software compatibility isn't our priority! Third: We don't like ReactOS Team policy. They're doing anything like this in Windows(R). They even cloned Explorer. We only want to compatible with Windows(R) startup, shutdown (without hibernate), login processes. But it won't looks like Windows. HostiliX will have its' own GUI (it's GDI + XOrg with theming support).
If you have any other questions to us, if something isn't clear, please write to me. I'll reply and answer to all your questions!
Why I write to you? Because we (BetaComp Team) think, that you're the best from the best. We need more people to write really good OS. If you have free time and want to make really great Operating System for home and business please help us! Please reply.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Yours faithfully, Rafal Kupiec BetaComp Team
ros-general mailing list ros-general@reactos.com http://reactos.com/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
It is the first time I heard about them. If they don't want to do a Win clone, why base it on ReactOS? (which is a Win clone).
ROS isn't a Windows Clone. It's designed to be 'Windows Compatible', but not an outright 'Clone'.
On 7/4/05, Tom Lee Mullins tomleem@comcast.net wrote:
James Tabor wrote:
Hi Did everyone get this too? James
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 16:31:03 +0200 From: Rafa? rafkup@gmail.com
Hi.
I am writing to you in the name of all BetaComp Team members, because we're thinking, that you are the best from the best. We make new operating system firstly based on ReactOS <http://www.reactos.com http://www.reactos.com/> (the part of you work on ReactOS or did it in the past). Why base on ReactOS? The answer is very simple. HostiliX (this is a name of our OS) is compatible with Windows(R) and ReactOS is compatible with Microsoft(C) product too, so we based HostiliX on ReactOS, because we don't want to waste our time to do something what is already done. Now suggest next question: Why are we doing Windows(R) clone? We are not making a Windows clone! Just most hardware manufacturers do drivers only for Windows(R), so we want to HostiliX be able to use it. We don't have time to do drivers! The same situation is with Windows applications. Most users need Windows(R) software. We want to permit them to use free operating system and them's favourite software. But running Windows software isn't our priority! We want to make new, fast, stable and secure operating system. It will have its' own SubSystem using CygWin, or CygWin clone, so it will run modified Linux applications. POSIX SubSystem must be modified of course. There won't be root directory (/). All ported from Linux to HostiliX software will use drive letters like A:, C:, (...). The will be also OS/2(R) and DOS(R) SubSystems.
FAQ:
Q: How want we to do drive letters in ported from Linux software? A: We want to modify libraries like GTK and QT (dialog windows) and add into it drive litters support. PosiX Layer will modify all slashes to backslash and if any program want to access / directory PosiX Layer will translate it to for example C:\HostiliX\System32\Posix where will be usr, bin, sbin and folders. Directory structure of Posix dir will be compatible with Unix directory structure. All drive letters will have shortcuts (will be mounted) somewhere in this directory. Using modified open/save/etc dialog windows user will feel that he uses any Windows application.
Q: What's our pririty? A: Make HostiliX stable fast and secure with all features like logging in/out, switching user, shutting down system (power off, reboot and hibernate).
Q: Will be hibernate just a hibernate? :P A: No! When system call hibernate process it will close all network connections and then unload drivers to all network hardware. Then will hibernate computer. After user power on computer again HostiliX will boot up from hibernation and then loads again unloaded before hibernation process drivers. What it adds? Let's imagine that you have Sagem Fast 800 ADSL Modem Connected to USB. When you power off your computer, driver will load, but modem will be unsynchronised with line. HostiliX will load this driver again, synchronise modem and connect to Internet again.
Q: Why don't we help ReactOS Team? A: There's a few reasons. First: We don't want to do Windows clone. HostiliX will be only able to load Windows(R) drivers and run Windows(R) software, when we will do more and repair existing I/O Functions. Second: Windows software compatibility isn't our priority! Third: We don't like ReactOS Team policy. They're doing anything like this in Windows(R). They even cloned Explorer. We only want to compatible with Windows(R) startup, shutdown (without hibernate), login processes. But it won't looks like Windows. HostiliX will have its' own GUI (it's GDI + XOrg with theming support).
If you have any other questions to us, if something isn't clear, please write to me. I'll reply and answer to all your questions!
Why I write to you? Because we (BetaComp Team) think, that you're the best from the best. We need more people to write really good OS. If you have free time and want to make really great Operating System for home and business please help us! Please reply.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Yours faithfully, Rafal Kupiec BetaComp Team
ros-general mailing list ros-general@reactos.com http://reactos.com/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
It is the first time I heard about them. If they don't want to do a Win clone, why base it on ReactOS? (which is a Win clone).
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TomLeeM
ros-general mailing list ros-general@reactos.com http://reactos.com/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
Tom Lee Mullins wrote:
It is the first time I heard about them. If they don't want to do a Win clone, why base it on ReactOS? (which is a Win clone).
If it is, I suggest you look back through the mailing list archives for 'HostiliX' and check up on them to get the full story to date.
-uQ
On Mon, 2005-07-04 at 14:34 -0400, Tom Lee Mullins wrote:
It is the first time I heard about them. If they don't want to do a Win clone, why base it on ReactOS? (which is a Win clone).
I think the key here is that they're trying to be Windows *compatible* without really cloning it (i.e. look & feel).
It sounds like driver compatibility is high on their priority list. It's an interesting idea since one of the hardest parts of building a new OS is hardware support. Windows drivers are available for pretty much everything, so if you can reuse those it saves a huge amount of work.
Alex
Me too.
On 7/4/05, Hartmut Birr hartmut.birr@gmx.de wrote:
James Tabor wrote:
Hi Did everyone get this too? James
I got the same mail.
- Hartmut
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