Hi all
Indeed, Steven and myself are having a little debate on this issue. This is because I'm in the planning stages of setting up a for-profit company that would sell solutions around ReactOS and eventually look to hire ReactOS developers fulltime. I feel that such redistribution of ReactOS, before its usable as a desktop OS, through this company would be an excellent exersize in getting operations started - while contributing
the profits back in the same way: bounties for development.
Cheers Jason
Steven Edwards wrote:
Hello Mark,
--- Mark Grosberg mark@nolab.conman.org wrote:
ReactOS is an important project. I'm surprised there are no
commercial
sponsors.
There is discussion going on right now about if this should be done
by
the foundation or a commercial organization.
Thanks
Steven
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Hi, actually, in my opinion, the model Jason says is better than just '5 usd for a CD with ReactOS'. My initial thought when joining ReactOS team was not just contributing to the project, but (in the long-time goal) is creating some products based on ReactOS, which will be commercial in some way (I don't know details yet, how it's possible, etc, but surely I'm not going to and won't ever violate GPL license ;-)).
End-users will like much more a ROS-based solution which will do something useful for them, than rather just buy a CD with an operating system preinstalled. -- Who needs this? The user who likes to experiment, to try something new, to test our OS at last. But this user usually have enough expertise to just d/l ISO and burn by himself.
Anyway, for now, for me, the only way to make the day when it become possible to have production-stage ReactOS is contributing to it, and with varying success I'm trying to do this :-)
With the best regards, Aleksey Bragin.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Filby" jasonfilby@yahoo.com To: ros-general@reactos.com Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [ros-general] $$$ Bountys on ReactOS development - 0.2 Relase
Hi all
Indeed, Steven and myself are having a little debate on this issue. This is because I'm in the planning stages of setting up a for-profit company that would sell solutions around ReactOS and eventually look to hire ReactOS developers fulltime. I feel that such redistribution of ReactOS, before its usable as a desktop OS, through this company would be an excellent exersize in getting operations started - while contributing
the profits back in the same way: bounties for development.
Cheers Jason
Steven Edwards wrote:
Hello Mark,
--- Mark Grosberg mark@nolab.conman.org wrote:
ReactOS is an important project. I'm surprised there are no
commercial
sponsors.
There is discussion going on right now about if this should be done
by
the foundation or a commercial organization.
Thanks
Steven
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Hello Alexksey, --- Aleksey Bragin aleksey@studiocerebral.com wrote:
Anyway, for now, for me, the only way to make the day when it become possible to have production-stage ReactOS is contributing to it, and with varying success I'm trying to do this :-)
Same here and thats where the idea of donations come in. Maybe I or someone else cant write some code that is needed but we can give some money to a developer that can. It doesnt have to be from selling CDs it can just be from donations to the ReactOS Project. Thats what I am getting at with this. If there are projects that no one wants or has the time to work on this might help speed along development in those areas.
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Steven, yes, sorry, you're certainly right in this topic. ROS Foundation is a great idea, and my idea in previous mail was that cd-selling idea would gather very little money.
As for 'sponsoring' bugs' solutions - really nice idea, I would personally fix bugs or implementing TCP/IP if I be paid that amount of money :-) And I think $500 isn't so small amount, even to not-Chinese-Indian-Russian people :-)
With the best regards, Aleksey Bragin.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Edwards" steven_ed4153@yahoo.com
Hello Alexksey, --- Aleksey Bragin aleksey@studiocerebral.com wrote:
Anyway, for now, for me, the only way to make the day when it become possible to have production-stage ReactOS is contributing to it, and with varying success I'm trying to do this :-)
Same here and thats where the idea of donations come in. Maybe I or someone else cant write some code that is needed but we can give some money to a developer that can. It doesnt have to be from selling CDs it can just be from donations to the ReactOS Project. Thats what I am getting at with this. If there are projects that no one wants or has the time to work on this might help speed along development in those areas.
Thanks Steven
Hello Alexksey,
--- Aleksey Bragin aleksey@studiocerebral.com wrote:
Steven,yes, sorry, you're certainly right in this topic. ROS Foundation is a great idea, and my idea in previous mail was that cd-selling idea would gather very little money.
Yes I think the CD selling idea wouldn't generate much money at this point by either the Foundation or Jasons company.
As for 'sponsoring' bugs' solutions - really nice idea, I would personally fix bugs or implementing TCP/IP if I be paid that amount of money :-) And I think $500 isn't so small amount, even to not-Chinese-Indian-Russian people :-)
Cool. Does everyone else think this is a good idea? If so then lets move forward with it. Jason: If your short on time I can do some of the web work to setup this donation system on reactos.com/.org
Thanks Steven
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Hey Aleksey --- Steven Edwards steven_ed4153@yahoo.com wrote:
Hello Alexksey,
Sorry about mangling your name. My brain doesnt always run its parser correctly. =P
Thanks Steven
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Lo all, --- Jason Filby jasonfilby@yahoo.com wrote:
Indeed, Steven and myself are having a little debate on this issue. This is because I'm in the planning stages of setting up a for-profit company that would sell solutions around ReactOS and eventually look to hire ReactOS developers fulltime. I feel that such redistribution of ReactOS, before its usable as a desktop OS, through this company would be an excellent exersize in getting operations started - while contributing
the profits back in the same way: bounties for development.
Yes and I agree with that to a degree. I think we need to see some companys supporting ReactOS but I also want to see the Foundation up and running. Having support from buiness is a good thing but not at the expense of a Non-Profit organization dedicated to the idea of ReactOS.
A For-Profit company exist for one goal and thats to make money. Even if Jason company is 100% owned by him today, 5 years down the road it might be owned by a large number of others that dont give a flip about ReactOS but only the bottom line. Thats find as long as the rules are played by with the GPL/LGPL. But I want to see us move forward on both. I want companys to adopt ReactOS and ReactOS developers to be free to make money off of thier work.
Thanks Steven
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On Fri, 9 Jan 2004, Jason Filby wrote:
Hi all
Indeed, Steven and myself are having a little debate on this issue. This is because I'm in the planning stages of setting up a for-profit company that would sell solutions around ReactOS and eventually look to hire ReactOS developers fulltime. I feel that such redistribution of ReactOS,
Can I make a suggestion? Go after the embedded market as well as the desktop market. I worked for years at a company on embedded products that had no user-interface but we were required to use NT. And honestly, the NT kernel (witout the GUI) is pretty good for soft-real time stuff.
Interestingly enough, I just started an embedded systems company for some software that I used to have as GPL. But I stopped supporting the GPL tree due to lack of interest.
I like the corporation idea. Maybe a good thing to do would be to see if Lindows would offer a bounty or be a first customer. They seem to have the sales channel starting up.
before its usable as a desktop OS, through this company would be an excellent exersize in getting operations started - while contributing
The NTFS driver and networking are two areas that really need improvment.
L8r, Mark G.
Hello Mark, --- Mark Grosberg mark@nolab.conman.org wrote:
Can I make a suggestion? Go after the embedded market as well as the desktop market. I worked for years at a company on embedded products that
Thanks for the feedback. I have no interest in a For-Profit ReactOS business unless it is one that Jason starts and I have been trying to tell him this for a while. Embedded ReactOS is where its at. We need to add some real-time schedualing to ReactOS and run some major auditing on the kernel code and then it would be perfect for the ?unknown? number of Windows/NT developers out there that want a better solution than NT Embedded or WinCE .Nyet.
Thanks Steven
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