Re: [ros-general] New to ReactOS

Why all the excitement?
Who uses assembler for serious anything these days?
Ok in my day I used  debug.exe because it came with DOS.
Now chip sizes are so large and processors so fast it would be a joke.
Today I would use AWK.exe, and if I needed to get tight assembler, compile it with TAWK.
or Mawk.
Then if I were mad enough, hand craft out the redundency, or write another in AWK program
to do it.
You will get more Wow for your effort.
If anybody from ros is really in need of assembler then something is sus.

Regards and rosucceed

Justin


---- Redefined Horizons <redefined.horizons(a)gmail.com> wrote: 
>   Wow! Great news!
>   Now let me ask about volunteering to help with the project. I'd like to get
>  some experience programming in assembly language and/or machine code.
>   Is there any need for this on the ReactOS project? Can I start on some
>  simple assembly language programming tasks for ReactOS and have someone that
>  can guide me through the tough spots?
>   Let me know if I can help in this area.
>   Scott
>  
>   On 10/17/05, KJKHyperion <hackbunny(a)reactos.com> wrote:
>  >
>  > Redefined Horizons wrote:
>  >
>  > > [1] Is ReactOS built on a Unix core, or is it a new operating
>  > > sytem from the ground up?
>  >
>  > ReactOS is all-original, written from the ground up as a clone of the
>  > Windows design
>  >
>  > > [2] Can you dual boot with ReactOS and a Linux operating system like
>  > > Debian? If you can, is there a place where I can find instructions on
>  > > how to do so?
>  >
>  > yes, see
>  > <http://www.reactos.org/wiki/index.php/HOWTO/boot_FreeLoader_from_GRUB>
>  >
>  > > [3] Does an application that runs on Microsoft Windows have to be
>  > > ported before it can be run on ReactOS?
>  >
>  > No
>  >
>  > > Can I try installing the program to see how it works?
>  >
>  > Yes
>  > _______________________________________________
>  > ros-general mailing list
>  > ros-general(a)reactos.org
>  > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
>  >

[Magnus Olsen]

Some part are optimze in asm in ros. Rember if u coding right
asm is faster that any other langues. BitBlit optimze in some part
was done in asm.  If any one feel some part can be optimze in asm
then do it. But we need also the C function so it can compile on other
platforms.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <jwalsh(a)bigpond.net.au>
To: "ReactOS General List" <ros-general(a)reactos.org>
Cc: "Redefined Horizons" <redefined.horizons(a)gmail.com>
Sent: den 18 October 2005 02:41
Subject: Re: [ros-general] New to ReactOS


>   Why all the excitement?
>  Who uses assembler for serious anything these days?
>  Ok in my day I used  debug.exe because it came with DOS.
>  Now chip sizes are so large and processors so fast it would be a joke.
>  Today I would use AWK.exe, and if I needed to get tight assembler, compile 
it with
TAWK.
>   or Mawk.
>  Then if I were mad enough, hand craft out the redundency, or write another 
in AWK
program to do it.
>   You will get more Wow for your effort.
>  If anybody from ros is really in need of assembler then something is sus.
>
>  Regards and rosucceed
>
>  Justin
>
>
>  ---- Redefined Horizons <redefined.horizons(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>  > Wow! Great news!
>  >  Now let me ask about volunteering to help with the project. I'd like to
get
>   > some experience programming in assembly language
> and/or machine code.
>  >  Is there any need for this on the ReactOS project? Can I start on some
>  > simple assembly language programming tasks for ReactOS and have someone 
that
>   > can guide me through the tough spots?
>  >  Let me know if I can help in this area.
>  >  Scott
>  >
>  >  On 10/17/05, KJKHyperion <hackbunny(a)reactos.com> wrote:
>  > >
>  > > Redefined Horizons wrote:
>  > >
>  > > > [1] Is ReactOS built on a Unix core, or is it a new operating
>  > > > sytem from the ground up?
>  > >
>  > > ReactOS is all-original, written from the ground up as a clone of the
>  > > Windows design
>  > >
>  > > > [2] Can you dual boot with ReactOS and a Linux operating system like
>   > > > Debian? If you can, is there a place
> where I can find instructions 
on
>   > > > how to do so?
>  > >
>  > > yes, see
>  > >
<http://www.reactos.org/wiki/index.php/HOWTO/boot_FreeLoader_from_GRUB>
> >   >
> >  > > [3] Does an application that runs on Microsoft Windows have to be
> >  > > ported before it can be run on ReactOS?
> >  >
> >  > No
> >  >
> >  > > Can I try installing the program to see how it works?
> >  >
> >  > Yes
> >  > _______________________________________________
> >  > ros-general mailing list
> >  > ros-general(a)reactos.org
> >  > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
> >  > 
>  _______________________________________________
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>  http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
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[Kevin Lawton]

Yeah - that's the sort of thing I mean as well. 
ASM is great for fast, optimised bits of code but is essentially specific to one series of
processors and no so portable (anyone remember 'cross assemblers' ?). A high-level
language like C is portable and easier for a team to develop in, but will ultimately yield
larger and probably slower executables. Of course, in these modern times we can just throw
hardware at performance problems because it is so inexpensive. 3 GHz of speed and 1 Gb of
memory just for a bit of word processing and web surfing would have been unthinkable not
very long ago - probably around the time many of us were honing our programming skills. It
makes the original design parameter of the PC - '640 Kb will be more than
sufficient' - seem pretty quaint now.  ;-)   
Sorry, this discussion seems to be wandering away from what might be considered solidly
on-topic. Obviously C is best for the basis of ReactOS development. After all, that is
what C was designed for ! 
Kevin.   

>   -----Original Message-----
>  From: ros-general-bounces(a)reactos.org
>  [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Magnus Olsen
>  Sent: 18 October 2005 17:05
>  To: ReactOS General List
>  Subject: Re: [ros-general] New to ReactOS
>  
>  
>  Some part are optimze in asm in ros. Rember if u coding right
>  asm is faster that any other langues. BitBlit optimze in some part
>  was done in asm.  If any one feel some part can be optimze in asm
>  then do it. But we need also the C function so it can compile on other
>  platforms.
>  
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: <jwalsh(a)bigpond.net.au>
>  To: "ReactOS General List" <ros-general(a)reactos.org>
>  Cc: "Redefined Horizons" <redefined.horizons(a)gmail.com>
>  Sent: den 18 October 2005 02:41
>  Subject: Re: [ros-general] New to ReactOS
>  
>  
> >   Why all the excitement?
> >  Who uses assembler for serious anything these days?
> >  Ok in my day I used  debug.exe because it came with DOS.
> >  Now chip sizes are so large and processors so fast it would be a joke.
> >  Today I would use AWK.exe, and if I needed to get tight  
>  assembler, compile
>  it with TAWK.
> >   or Mawk.
> >  Then if I were mad enough, hand craft out the redundency, or  
>  write another
>  in AWK program to do it.
> >   You will get more Wow for your effort.
> >  If anybody from ros is really in need of assembler then  
>  something is sus.
> >  
> >  Regards and rosucceed
> >
> >  Justin
> >
> >
> >  ---- Redefined Horizons <redefined.horizons(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >  > Wow! Great news!
> >  >  Now let me ask about volunteering to help with the project.  
>  I'd like
> to
>  get
> >   > some experience programming in assembly
> > language and/or machine code.
> >  >  Is there any need for this on the ReactOS project? Can I  
>  start on some
> >   > simple assembly language programming tasks
> > for ReactOS and  
>  have someone
>  that
> >   > can guide me through the tough spots?
> >  >  Let me know if I can help in this area.
> >  >  Scott
> >  >
> >  >  On 10/17/05, KJKHyperion <hackbunny(a)reactos.com> wrote:
> >  > >
> >  > > Redefined Horizons wrote:
> >  > >
> >  > > > [1] Is ReactOS built on a Unix core, or is it a new operating
> >  > > > sytem from the ground up?
> >  > >
> >  > > ReactOS is all-original, written from the ground up as a  
>  clone of the
> >   > > Windows design
> >  > >
> >  > > > [2] Can you dual boot with ReactOS and a Linux operating  
>  system
> like
>  
> >   > > > Debian? If you can, is there a
> > place where I can find instructions 
>  on
> >   > > > how to do so?
> >  > >
> >  > > yes, see
> >  > > 
> <http://www.reactos.org/wiki/index.php/HOWTO/boot_FreeLoader_from_GRUB>
> > >   >
> > >  > > [3] Does an application that runs on Microsoft Windows have to be
> > >  > > ported before it can be run on ReactOS?
> > >  >
> > >  > No
> > >  >
> > >  > > Can I try installing the program to see how it works?
> > >  >
> > >  > Yes
> > >  > _______________________________________________
> > >  > ros-general mailing list
> > >  > ros-general(a)reactos.org
> > >  > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
> > >  > 
> >  _______________________________________________
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