I am taking a break...

[Eric Kohl]

Hi!

Effective immediately I am taking a break from working on ReactOS for an
undetermined period of time. It may even be the end of my involvement
with ReactOS.

There are several reasons for me to quit but the most important one is
lack of time. I have a pretty exhausting job and spend more than 2 hours
  a day to commute so there is not much time left to spend on ReactOS.
So working on ReactOS happened on weekends only.

After my latest patch was partially reverted, I decided that I am not
willing to create and maintain a development branch for improvements to
LSA and SAM. I am not willing to spend an hour or two each weekend for
branch maintenance and debugging and another two or three hours for
developing new code. It just does not make sense to me.

Maybe I will be back one day, maybe I will not. Time will tell.

Over and out!
Eric

[Ged]

I completely agree, your code should never have been reverted.
As you know, this isn't the first time we've been through this, and I'm sure
it won't be the last.

You'll be sorely missed. It's always sad to see the core devs leave.

Ged.


-----Original Message-----
From: ros-general-bounces(a)reactos.org
[mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Eric Kohl
Sent: 16 December 2008 20:47
To: ros-general(a)reactos.org
Subject: [ros-general] I am taking a break...

Hi!

Effective immediately I am taking a break from working on ReactOS for an
undetermined period of time. It may even be the end of my involvement
with ReactOS.

There are several reasons for me to quit but the most important one is
lack of time. I have a pretty exhausting job and spend more than 2 hours
  a day to commute so there is not much time left to spend on ReactOS.
So working on ReactOS happened on weekends only.

After my latest patch was partially reverted, I decided that I am not
willing to create and maintain a development branch for improvements to
LSA and SAM. I am not willing to spend an hour or two each weekend for
branch maintenance and debugging and another two or three hours for
developing new code. It just does not make sense to me.

Maybe I will be back one day, maybe I will not. Time will tell.

Over and out!
Eric


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[Zachary Gorden]

Eric, the revert was temporary because of a problem in PSEH2, not with your
code.  Stefan did say it was temporary, but he didn't really explain why in
the commit message and he also didn't contact you directly, which in
hindsight is what he should have done first before reverting.  So this is
very much a case of bad communication within the project.

[James Tabor]

Hi Eric!
Eric Kohl wrote:
>   Hi!
>  
>  Effective immediately I am taking a break from working on ReactOS for an
>  undetermined period of time. It may even be the end of my involvement
>  with ReactOS.
>  
>  There are several reasons for me to quit but the most important one is
>  lack of time. I have a pretty exhausting job and spend more than 2 hours
>    a day to commute so there is not much time left to spend on ReactOS.
>  So working on ReactOS happened on weekends only.
>  
>  After my latest patch was partially reverted, I decided that I am not
>  willing to create and maintain a development branch for improvements to
>  LSA and SAM. I am not willing to spend an hour or two each weekend for
>  branch maintenance and debugging and another two or three hours for
>  developing new code. It just does not make sense to me.
>  
>  Maybe I will be back one day, maybe I will not. Time will tell.
>  
>  Over and out!
>  Eric
>   
Your resignation is disapproved! You are an integral part of this project.

You are the last of the root members of this project. We need your help
and if that means breaking ReactOS truck that is your right to do so. We will
learn to live with it. I have followed your work for years and I would like
to see you more. Based on your tenure with this project, this gives you
rights, influences and guidance to this project.

Please recommence with your changes,
James

[Alex Ionescu]

I concur with James.

Eric, I think what you meant to say is you don't have time to work on  
ReactOS in its current state -- ie: the slow, time-consuming  
procedures and behaviors that take up more than 50% of your free time.

What if ReactOS provides you with your own branch, and the ReactOS  
project assumes the responsibility of merging your changes to trunk,  
performing the testing and regression testing. You might be afraid  
that your code will "rot" and that it would never make it inline, but  
I'm sure the people respect your work as much as I do and would make  
sure that things stay up to date (much like we sync with Wine).

This would allow you to keep committing code, have your own branch  
which at least works for you, and we'd take care of merging. Your only  
real responsibility would be to "sync up" with trunk every once in a  
while -- could even be only ever 3 months, or if you notice something  
obvious that might affect you (RPC changes, WIDL changes, SCM etc).

I know this may sound unfair to other developers, but as James pointed  
out, you deserve everyone's time, considering how much you've put in  
all this time.

On 19-Dec-08, at 9:22 PM, James Tabor wrote:

>   Hi Eric!
>  Eric Kohl wrote:
> >   Hi!
> >
> >  Effective immediately I am taking a break from working on ReactOS  
> >  for an
> >  undetermined period of time. It may even be the end of my involvement
> >  with ReactOS.
> >
> >  There are several reasons for me to quit but the most important one  
> >  is
> >  lack of time. I have a pretty exhausting job and spend more than 2  
> >  hours
> >   a day to commute so there is not much time left to spend on ReactOS.
> >  So working on ReactOS happened on weekends only.
> >
> >  After my latest patch was partially reverted, I decided that I am not
> >  willing to create and maintain a development branch for  
> >  improvements to
> >  LSA and SAM. I am not willing to spend an hour or two each weekend  
> >  for
> >  branch maintenance and debugging and another two or three hours for
> >  developing new code. It just does not make sense to me.
> >
> >  Maybe I will be back one day, maybe I will not. Time will tell.
> >
> >  Over and out!
> >  Eric
> >  
>  Your resignation is disapproved! You are an integral part of this  
>  project.
>
>  You are the last of the root members of this project. We need your  
>  help
>  and if that means breaking ReactOS truck that is your right to do  
>  so. We will
>  learn to live with it. I have followed your work for years and I  
>  would like
>  to see you more. Based on your tenure with this project, this gives  
>  you
>  rights, influences and guidance to this project.
>
>  Please recommence with your changes,
>  James
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Best regards,
Alex Ionescu

[Ged]

James Tabor:
 
>   You are the last of the root members of this project.
> We need your help
>  and if that means breaking ReactOS truck that is your right to do so. We 
will
>   learn to live with it. I have followed your work for
> years and I would 
like
>   to see you more. Based on your tenure with this
> project, this gives you
>  rights, influences and guidance to this project. 
I completely agree with James. Some people in this project hold more respect
and rights to it. 
Considering you're one of the fathers of ReactOS, and the amount of effort
you've put in, the project can certainly accommodate your needs in order to
keep you on the team.

Ged.

[Patrick Lopez]

It seems he is not reading this. He must have responded by now.
Sorry about this but I'm a newb... if he leaves then is reactOS dead?

On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 4:32 AM, Ged <gedmurphy(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>   James Tabor:
>
> >   You are the last of the root members of this
> > project. We need your help
> >  and if that means breaking ReactOS truck that is your right to do so. We 
>  will
> >   learn to live with it. I have followed your work
> > for years and I would 
>  like
> >   to see you more. Based on your tenure with this
> > project, this gives you
> >  rights, influences and guidance to this project. 
>  I completely agree with James. Some people in this project hold more
>  respect
>  and rights to it.
>  Considering you're one of the fathers of ReactOS, and the amount of effort
>  you've put in, the project can certainly accommodate your needs in order to
>  keep you on the team.
>
>  Ged.
>
>
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[Ray]

Maybe Microsoft made him a deal he could not refuse

Ray

Patrick Lopez wrote:
>   It seems he is not reading this. He must have
> responded by now.
>  Sorry about this but I'm a newb... if he leaves then is reactOS dead?
>
>  On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 4:32 AM, Ged <gedmurphy(a)gmail.com 
>  <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>
>      James Tabor:
>
> >   You are the last of the root members of this
> > project. We need 
>      your help
> >   and if that means breaking ReactOS truck that is
> > your right to 
>      do so. We
>      will
> >   learn to live with it. I have followed your work
> > for years and I 
>      would
>      like
> >   to see you more. Based on your tenure with this
> > project, this 
>      gives you
> >   rights, influences and guidance to this project.
>      I completely agree with James. Some people in this project hold
>      more respect
>      and rights to it.
>      Considering you're one of the fathers of ReactOS, and the amount
>      of effort
>      you've put in, the project can certainly accommodate your needs in
>      order to
>      keep you on the team.
>
>      Ged.
>
>
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[João Jerónimo]

Patrick Lopez wrote:
>   It seems he is not reading this. He must have
> responded by now.
>  Sorry about this but I'm a newb... if he leaves then is reactOS dead? 
I don't think so. Some members of the dev team who have historical
importance do hold also important roles in the project, but not all of them.
I think they are concerned about his historical role, which is fair (i
suppose so). There's no reason for ROS to come to an end because one of the
devs leaves (at least not directly and as long as most of them stay active).

JJ
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