Re: Issue 1. [Re: [ros-general] ROS-User-Issues]

[Alex Ionescu]

It's not New Technology, nor Nothern Telecom, not Needs Terabytes neither Not There.

It does stand for N-Ten, but that's not the codename for the i860. It's the name of the simulator that was used since
i860 didn't really exist while MS was working on the OS.

Best regards,
Alex Ionescu
> That's just MS marketing propaganda. It was originally sorthand for 
> N-Ten, which is code name for Intel i860 processor the first NT version 
> was targeted at.
> Filip

TwoTailedFox wrote:
> /It was initially supposed to mean "New Technology", but soon after, it

/>/became Just Another Meaningless Acronym.
/>/
/>/However... Look at VMS, and WNT. See how the shorthand of Windows NT
/>/is a play on one-upping VMS? :p
/>/
/>/On 10/24/05, Kevin Lawton <kepla at btinternet.com http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general> wrote:
/>/  
/>/
/>>/I sometimes wonder if even Microsoft know what NT means.
/>>/Look at the Windows 2000 splash screen - 'based on NT technology'.
/>>/Translate the 'NT' into 'New Technology' and we get 'based on new technology technology'.
/>>/Not very confidence inspiring, Microsoft.
/>>/Kevin.
/>>/
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/>>>/-----Original Message-----
/>>>/From: ros-general-bounces at reactos.org http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
/>>>/[mailto:ros-general-bounces at reactos.org http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general]On Behalf Of
/>>>/jwalsh at bigpond.net.au http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
/>>>/Sent: 24 October 2005 21:13
/>>>/To: ReactOS General List
/>>>/Cc: Robert Köpferl
/>>>/Subject: Re: Issue 1. [Re: [ros-general] ROS-User-Issues]
/>>>/
/>>>/
/>>>/Sorry guys.
/>>>/In my preoccupation with separating USER from PROGRAMMER I
/>>>/stepped into a rather smelly issue of my own making.
/>>>/However your response is making me aware of a number of issues
/>>>/which may have lain dormant, simply because nobody "in the know"
/>>>/would have had (myself included) the courage to ask such a
/>>>/seemingl silly question..
/>>>/How many Users would know what NT even means: Afterall Users
/>>>/don't program or do they?
/>>>/Cheers and rosuccess
/>>>/Justin
/>>>/---- "Robert Köpferl" <rob at koepferl.de http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general> wrote:
/>>>/      
/>>>/
/>>>>/Seems to me like you missed the point (or I did)
/>>>>/
/>>>>/It's about updates, patches for win98 and their current apps still
/>>>>/working on win98
/>>>>/
/>>>>/jwalsh at bigpond.net.au http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general wrote:
/>>>>/        
/>>>>/
/>>>>>/Issue 1
/>>>>>/
/>>>>>/Telstra Bigbond has announced that they are following
/>>>>>/          
/>>>>>/
/>>>/Microsofts plan to drop  support for Windows98 fron 17th August
/>>>/this year.
/>>>/      
/>>>/
/>>>>>/It is clear that Microsoft is no longer supporting backward
/>>>>>/          
/>>>>>/
/>>>/compatability, only forward.
/>>>/      
/>>>/
/>>>>>/These are two entirely different Technologies, both at the OS
/>>>>>/          
/>>>>>/
/>>>/and at the File level.
/>>>/      
/>>>/
/>>>>>/If ReactOS policy is to be plug compatibe with Windows, how
/>>>>>/          
/>>>>>/
/>>>/does ReactOS plan to deal with it?
/>>>/      
/>>>/
/>>>>>/Cheers and rosuccess
/>>>>>/Justin
/>>>>>/
/>>>>>/
/>>>>>/---- Justin Walsh <justin_2006 at operamail.com http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general> wrote:
/>>>>>/
/>>>>>/          
/>>>>>/
/>>>>>>/---- Justin Walsh <justin_2006 at operamail.com http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general> wrote:
/>>>>>>/
/>>>>>>/            
/>>>>>>/
/>>>>>>>/I'm a little confused.
/>>>>>>>/              
/>>>>>>>/
/>>>>>>/Well not anymore.
/>>>>>>/This may not be a Wiki, but I can make it look like one.
/>>>>>>/All I have to do is comply strictly with the ReactOS Code of Conduct.
/>>>>>>/I think ROS-User-Issues or RUI is pretty clear.
/>>>>>>/If you need to talk code then got to:
/>>>>>>/ROS-Programmer-Issues or RPI.
/>>>>>>/We already have Mingw-Msys for those don't just read or talk code,
/>>>>>>/but seriously do it.
/>>>>>>/Kicking off RUI.
/>>>>>>/I recommend taking a look at http://www.pcpitstop.com
/>>>>>>/He has some interesting things to say about Microsoft.
/>>>>>>/Not that I agree entirely with him.
/>>>>>>/
/>>>>>>/Any objections or recomendations are welcome
/>>>>>>/
/>>>>>>/Cheers and rosuccess
/>>>>>>/
/>>>>>>/Justin
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[KJKHyperion]

Alex Ionescu wrote:
> It's not New Technology, nor Nothern Telecom, not Needs Terabytes 
> neither Not There.

how about "it means nothing"? It's just like my "KJK": historically it 
stands for Kyle Jordan Klan, but today its meaning is irrelevant

[Filip Navara]

You're right that "N-Ten" was originally the name of the simulator, but 
it was based on the code name of the processor which is "N10". It was 
later (incorrectly) adapted by the "community" as a name for the 
processor itself...

- Filip

"Originally, we were targeting NT to the Intel i860 (code-named 
'N-Ten'), a RISC processor 
http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/winserver2k3_gold1.asp# that was 
horribly behind schedule. Because we didn't have any i860 machines 
in-house to test on, we used an i860 simulator. That's why we called it 
NT, because it worked on the 'N-Ten.'"
~ Mark Lucovsky

Alex Ionescu wrote:
> It's not New Technology, nor Nothern Telecom, not Needs Terabytes 
> neither Not There.
>
> It does stand for N-Ten, but that's not the codename for the i860. 
> It's the name of the simulator that was used since
> i860 didn't really exist while MS was working on the OS.
>
> Best regards,
> Alex Ionescu
> > That's just MS marketing propaganda. It was originally sorthand for 
> > N-Ten, which is code name for Intel i860 processor the first NT 
> > version was targeted at.
> > Filip

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