RE: [ros-general] Wait a second...

A constitution is a set of rules: do's and don'ts.
Is that what you want?
It is a regulatory mechanism to control behaviour.
It sits between Law ands no Law at all.
It is a formality commonly associated with  corporations.

So far I don't see any reason for current behaviour to change.
Your founding principles seem quite sound to me. Why the panic?
Perhaps your current Strategic Plan  could be a bit more flexible.
But there are all sorts of sub-forums which can deal with superficial issues.
I suggest a cool down period, and agreement to disagree on particulars only.
But never a compromise on principle: they are either right or wrong.
If a better principle emerges then drop the old one and take on the new.
Otherwise let the opponents prove their point.

Earnie Boyd at MinGW-Msys is a good example of control by principle.

Regards and rosuccess
Justin

---- Casper Hornstrup <ch(a)csh-consult.dk> wrote: 
>   Just code, don't talk works fine...when you are a
> two people project.
>  
>  ReactOS isn't a two people project anymore. We need a fair way to
>  settle disagreements and we need a way to remember the decisions
>  we make. Fair meaning that everyone has equal opportunity to
>  influence the decision. We need a constitution.
>  
>  Casper
>  
> >   -----Original Message-----
> >  From: ros-general-bounces(a)reactos.org [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf
> > Of Tim
> >  Jobling
> >  Sent: 16. oktober 2005 22:55
> >  To: ros-general(a)reactos.org
> >  Subject: Re: [ros-general] Wait a second...
> >  
> >  I chime in even less than Richard, but I have to say I
> >  whole heartedly agree with his sentiment.
> >  
> >  Perhaps we should take a lesson from the early history
> >  of this project and get back to letting the code talk
> >  for it's self.
> >  
> >  Reactos started at with an "emphasis on results -- on
> >  written code rather than endless talk".  Famous words,
> >  I'm sure we have all read 100 times, but now seems
> >  like a really good time to remind everyone of them.
> >  
> >  Kind regards,
> >  Tim Jobling
> >   
>  
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>  ros-general(a)reactos.org
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[Lucio Diaz]

 --- "jwalsh(a)bigpond.net.au" <jwalsh(a)bigpond.net.au>
escribió:

>   A constitution is a set of rules: do's and
> don'ts.
>  Is that what you want?
>  It is a regulatory mechanism to control behaviour.
>  It sits between Law ands no Law at all.
>  It is a formality commonly associated with 
>  corporations.
>  
>  So far I don't see any reason for current behaviour
>  to change.
>  Your founding principles seem quite sound to me. Why
>  the panic?
>  Perhaps your current Strategic Plan  could be a bit
>  more flexible.
>  But there are all sorts of sub-forums which can deal
>  with superficial issues.
>  I suggest a cool down period, and agreement to
>  disagree on particulars only.
>  But never a compromise on principle: they are either
>  right or wrong.
>  If a better principle emerges then drop the old one
>  and take on the new.
>  Otherwise let the opponents prove their point.
>  
>  Earnie Boyd at MinGW-Msys is a good example of
>  control by principle.
>  
>  Regards and rosuccess
>  Justin
>  
>  ---- Casper Hornstrup <ch(a)csh-consult.dk> wrote: 
> >   Just code, don't talk works fine...when you
> > are a 
>  two people project.
> >   
> >  ReactOS isn't a two people project anymore. We 
>  need a fair way to
> >   settle disagreements and we need a way to
> > remember 
>  the decisions
> >   we make. Fair meaning that everyone has equal
>  opportunity to
> >   influence the decision. We need a constitution.
> >  
> >  Casper
> >  
> >  > -----Original Message-----
> >  > From: ros-general-bounces(a)reactos.org 
> [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf
>  Of Tim
> >   > Jobling
> >  > Sent: 16. oktober 2005 22:55
> >  > To: ros-general(a)reactos.org
> >  > Subject: Re: [ros-general] Wait a second...
> >  > 
> >  > I chime in even less than Richard, but I have to 
>  say I
> >   > whole heartedly agree with his sentiment.
> >  > 
> >  > Perhaps we should take a lesson from the early 
>  history
> >   > of this project and get back to letting the
> > code 
>  talk
> >   > for it's self.
> >  > 
> >  > Reactos started at with an "emphasis on results 
>  -- on
> >   > written code rather than endless talk".
> >  Famous 
>  words,
> >   > I'm sure we have all read 100 times, but
> > now 
>  seems
> >   > like a really good time to remind everyone
> > of 
>  them.
> > >   
> > >  Kind regards,
> > >  Tim Jobling
> > >   
> >  
> >  _______________________________________________
> >  ros-general mailing list
> >  ros-general(a)reactos.org
> >  
>  http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
>  _______________________________________________
>  ros-general mailing list
>  ros-general(a)reactos.org
>  http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
>   
Can not agree more, Common sense and maturity because
all the people working in the project are doing so for
fun (and glory ;) in their spare time without a pay,
so noone can oblige them. Do as you want and play it
nice should be the word.


		
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