I'm a little confused. And am now dumping Telstra, Bigpond.net.au Webmail, because they are too incompetant to remain in business. Although I have unbolted IE and everything else bar the kitchen-sink, I am still being pentrated by reminants of IE. They should be made face the Courts, I can't do it alone. Meanwhile I'm getting familiar with Opera Web Mail. Sigh? Meanwhile back to the issues...
Hello World, Kevin. This conversation below is just what makes ReactOS so strong, but there is a danger that it can end in mere talk. I would like to dwell on what you have just said, but on a separate thread: like User-Issues. I strongly urge "Those Who Are In Control" to create a more convenient structure. Like say, this: The Begin/End block is to stress the point. ros-general BEGIN block ros-User-Issues ros-Programmer-Issues END block This issue is very important to me, but I'm embarrased that I might be blocking the Entry-Exit.
Cheers and rosuccess Justin
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I don't see these products which are available for managing MS Windows into a more streamlined OS as being particularly against ReactOS. To me they are just a way of trying to get the bloated and sloppy Windows to work a bit better until the alternative is mature enough to use all day, every day. When ReactOS achieves this I will dump MS Windows, but till then I try to make the best of it. In a way, the fact that these system management utilities exist can help the ReactOS project 'get it right' where Microsoft failed. DOS dead ? Maybe MS-DOS, yes, and possibly IBM's PC-DOS in the near future - but there are several other DOS variants, DR-DOS and Freedoms for example, which have a useful place in the grand scheme of things. Like the way Partition Magic uses DR-DOS to provide an op system to boot from floppy. Very useful on either new, virgin machines or when you've got hard drive problems. Can't trust Microsoft ? I believe the one group of people who CAN trust Microsoft are their shareholders. Kevin.
-----Original Message----- From: jwalsh@bigpond.net.au [mailto:jwalsh@bigpond.net.au] Sent: 20 October 2005 23:43 To: ReactOS General List Cc: Kevin Lawton Subject: RE: [ros-general] OK, Time for a few words..
Well, there it is Kevin, suddenly a Window of opportunity is opening. It looks good, but I must warn you to read the fine print: This product seems to go against the intersts ReactOS.
- So far it supports Windows 2000, XP x86/x64 and 2003 x86/x64
all languages. Windows Vista will be supported as well.
I may be wrong here, but why not just say DOS or Fat32?
- It needs at least .NET Framework 1.1 in order to run it...
Now I have no doubt that DOS is on the way out.
She is desparate to dump her old following and Australia won't take them anymore. This dump site is closed.
But I will study it more closely and apologise if I am wrong.
My acute sense of distrust (my worst feature) tells me Ms is turning bad luck into another good fortune again.
Why Justin not give then a chance.? I will, I will, but...
Please ReactOS, watch your back (office).
Hmmm???
Cheers ans rosuccess Justin
---- TwoTailedFox twotailedfox@gmail.com wrote:
Kevin, if you're looking to slim down Windows 2000 (Or XP/2003, for that matter), check out nLite: http://www.nliteos.com
On 10/20/05, Kevin Lawton kepla@btinternet.com wrote:
I had not heard of this 'LitePC' thing before - it sounds
almost too good to be true.
Thanks for the info - I will be giving it a try to trim my
Win 2000 installations down to a more sensible size.
Been down the Linux road too but, when you consider the
current bulkiness of the more 'useful' Linux distros and the difficulties of using it with modern toys like phones or cameras, I find I have to keep Windows hanging around - at least until ReactOS is 'all present and correct'. FreeBSD is an interesting option for Unix-like-ness on a PC, with Cygwin and Win4Lin having their place too.
Dunno about ros-insane, maybe it should be ros-inspired. Plenty of new things to play with now. :-) Kevin.
-----Original Message----- From: ros-general-bounces@reactos.org [mailto:ros-general-bounces@reactos.org]On Behalf Of jwalsh@bigpond.net.au Sent: 20 October 2005 05:08 To: ReactOS General List Cc: Robert Köpferl Subject: Re: [ros-general] OK, Time for a few words..
If I may add my 2 cents worth. I too have a spot in my heart for Linux Gui's, both KDE and Gnome. However the overheads are too high. So I have 3 three Thinkspads on the net. and a comfortable swivel chair. IMHO Linux is toooo fat and slow and badly designed, before I get flamed it is only MHO. So I have tried to compromise (on Particulars, not on Principles). This was my strategy (for what it is worth): Please remember it is only MHO, and not set in concrete. I chose the first Linux distro off the block i.e. Slackware because it stuck to basic principles. Yes as simple as that. The old 1440 KB floppy disk (about the size of my limited imagination). I chose a basic Windows32 platform i.e. 9x Then I worked on the tiny Linux's (Monkey Linux, and pocket Linux) Until I discovered Pat Villani's : Linux for Windows 9X Home page: http://www.monmouth.com/user_pages/patv/ Download: ftp://opensourcedepot.com/pub/linux/WinLin9X/v0.2/setup.exe Author: Pat Villani (http://www.monmouth.com/user_pages/patv) Mailing list: lin4win@opensourcedepot.com It was great, it sat neatly in 18 MB. Then I asked myself, "what the heck am I doing with nearly half a gig of Windows98se?" Not wanting to bring Microsoft down on my financially poor head: I downloaded Australian product called 98Lite from LitePC.com (trial version) I liked it so much I bought the real thing. It gave me the opportunity to unbolt everything which Microsoft told the courts was not possible to do. There she was, stripped from nearly half a gig to 50mb, stark naked, but looking like Homer Simpson. The speed increase was fantastic. Now I am going for 30 mb, then 16, then 8, then ....... The full story would take too long to tell, so I will leave
it at that.
Suffice to say I have now dumped Linux and gone back to
Unix BSD and bash.
That is when met Minsys and it was a good feeling. I was Bourne again, bash'ed about the head, so to speak. Oh I forgot there is a need for one extra doorway off ros-general especially for me. Mark it ros-insane.
Cheers and rosuccess
Justin
---- "Robert Köpferl" rob@koepferl.de wrote:
Hhmmm, what you tink of is what I call a GDI-Port+win32 of xfree. etc Richard Campbell wrote: > XFree86 has already been ported to windows, whats the point
in a ROS port?
> etc > Robert Köpferl wrote: > etc >> It should be possible to port Xfree86 to ROS (be it win32 or
posix) as
>> it has been proted to os2. >>etc >> TwoTailedFox wrote: >> etc >>> I've seen quite a few users propose ideas, such as a
new GUI, or new
>>> functionality, only to be told it doesn't fit in with the
Core Goal of
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