On User issues [RE: [ros-general] OK, Time for a few words..]

[Justin Walsh]

I'm a little confused.
And am now dumping Telstra, Bigpond.net.au Webmail,
because they are too incompetant to remain in business.
Although I have unbolted IE and everything else bar the kitchen-sink, I am still being
pentrated by reminants of IE.
They should be made face the Courts, I can't do it alone.
Meanwhile I'm getting familiar with Opera Web Mail. Sigh?
Meanwhile back to the issues...

Hello World,
Kevin. This conversation below is just what makes ReactOS so strong, but there is a danger
that it can end in mere talk. I would like to dwell on what you have just said, but on a
separate thread: like User-Issues. 
I strongly urge "Those Who Are In Control" to create a more convenient
structure.
Like say, this: The Begin/End block is to stress the point.
ros-general
   BEGIN block  
          ros-User-Issues
          ros-Programmer-Issues
   END block
This issue is very important to me, but I'm embarrased that I might be blocking the
Entry-Exit.

Cheers and rosuccess
Justin

---- wrote: 
>   I don't see these products which are available for
> managing MS Windows into a more streamlined OS as being particularly against ReactOS. To
> me they are just a way of trying to get the bloated and sloppy Windows to work a bit
> better until the alternative is mature enough to use all day, every day. When ReactOS
> achieves this I will dump MS Windows, but till then I try to make the best of it. In a
> way, the fact that these system management utilities exist can help the ReactOS project
> 'get it right' where Microsoft failed. 
>  DOS dead ? Maybe MS-DOS, yes, and possibly IBM's PC-DOS in the near future - but
> there are several other DOS variants, DR-DOS and Freedoms for example, which have a useful
> place in the grand scheme of things. Like the way Partition Magic uses DR-DOS to provide
> an op system to boot from floppy. Very useful on either new, virgin machines or when
> you've got hard drive problems. 
>  Can't trust Microsoft ?   I believe the one group of people who CAN trust Microsoft
> are their shareholders. 
>  Kevin.     
>     
> >   -----Original Message-----
> >  From: jwalsh(a)bigpond.net.au [mailto:[e-mail]]
> >  Sent: 20 October 2005 23:43
> >  To: ReactOS General List
> >  Cc: Kevin Lawton
> >  Subject: RE: [ros-general] OK, Time for a few words..
> >  
> >  
> >  Well, there it is Kevin, suddenly a Window of opportunity is opening.
> >  It looks good, but I must warn you to read the fine print:
> >  This product seems to go against the intersts ReactOS.
> >  
> >   1. So far it supports Windows 2000, XP x86/x64 and 2003 x86/x64 
> >  all languages.   Windows Vista will be supported as well.
> >  
> >  I may be wrong here, but why not just say DOS or Fat32?
> >  
> >  2. It needs at least .NET Framework 1.1 in order to run it...
> >  
> >  Now I have no doubt that DOS is on the way out. 
> >  
> >  She is desparate to dump her old following and Australia won't 
> >  take them anymore. This dump site is closed.
> >  
> >  But I will study it more closely and apologise if I am wrong.
> >  
> >  My acute sense of distrust (my worst feature) tells me  Ms is 
> >  turning bad luck into another good fortune again. 
> >  
> >  Why Justin not give then a chance.? I will, I will, but...
> >  
> >  Please ReactOS, watch your back (office).
> >  
> >  Hmmm???
> >  
> >  Cheers ans rosuccess
> >  Justin
> >   
> >  ---- TwoTailedFox <twotailedfox(a)gmail.com> wrote: 
> > >   Kevin, if you're looking to slim down Windows
> > > 2000 (Or XP/2003, for
> > >  that matter), check out nLite: http://www.nliteos.com
> > >  
> > >  On 10/20/05, Kevin Lawton <kepla(a)btinternet.com> wrote:
> > >  > I had not heard of this 'LitePC' thing before - it sounds  
> >  almost too
> > good to be true.
> > >   > Thanks for the info - I will be giving it a
> > > try to trim my  
> >  Win 2000 installations down to a more sensible size.
> > >   > Been down the Linux road too but, when you
> > > consider the  
> >  current bulkiness of the more 'useful' Linux distros and the
> >
> >  difficulties of using it with modern toys like phones or cameras, 
> >  I find I have to keep Windows hanging around - at least until 
> >  ReactOS is 'all present and correct'. FreeBSD is an interesting 
> >  option for Unix-like-ness on a PC, with Cygwin and Win4Lin having 
> >  their place too.
> > >   > Dunno about ros-insane, maybe it should be
> > > ros-inspired.
> > >  > Plenty of new things to play with now.  :-)
> > >  > Kevin.
> > >  >
> > >  > > -----Original Message-----
> > >  > > From: ros-general-bounces(a)reactos.org
> > >  > > [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of
> > >  > > jwalsh(a)bigpond.net.au
> > >  > > Sent: 20 October 2005 05:08
> > >  > > To: ReactOS General List
> > >  > > Cc: Robert Köpferl
> > >  > > Subject: Re: [ros-general] OK, Time for a few words..
> > >  > >
> > >  > >
> > >  > >
> > >  > > If I may add my 2 cents worth.
> > >  > > I too have a spot in my heart for Linux Gui's, both KDE and Gnome.
> > >  > > However the overheads are too high. So I have 3 three Thinkspads
> > >  > > on the net.
> > >  > > and a comfortable swivel chair.
> > >  > > IMHO Linux is toooo fat and slow and badly designed, before I get
> > >  > > flamed it is only MHO.
> > >  > > So I have tried to compromise (on Particulars, not on Principles).
> > >  > > This was my strategy (for what it is worth):
> > >  > > Please remember it is only MHO, and not set in concrete.
> > >  > >  I chose the first Linux distro off the block i.e. Slackware
> > >  > > because it stuck to basic principles. Yes as simple as that. The
> > >  > > old 1440 KB floppy disk (about the size of my limited imagination).
> > >  > > I chose a basic Windows32 platform i.e. 9x
> > >  > > Then I worked on the tiny Linux's (Monkey Linux, and pocket Linux)
> > >  > > Until I discovered Pat Villani's  :
> > >  > >     Linux for Windows 9X
> > >  > >        Home page: http://www.monmouth.com/user_pages/patv/
> > >  > >        Download:
> > >  > > ftp://opensourcedepot.com/pub/linux/WinLin9X/v0.2/setup.exe
> > >  > >       Author: Pat Villani (http://www.monmouth.com/user_pages/patv)
> > >  > >       Mailing list: lin4win(a)opensourcedepot.com
> > >  > >  It was great, it sat neatly in 18 MB.
> > >  > > Then I asked myself, "what the heck am I doing with nearly half a
> > >  > > gig of Windows98se?"
> > >  > > Not wanting to bring Microsoft down on my financially poor head:
> > >  > > I downloaded Australian product called 98Lite from LitePC.com
> > >  > > (trial version)
> > >  > > I liked it so much I bought the real  thing.
> > >  > >  It gave me the opportunity to unbolt everything which Microsoft
> > >  > > told the courts was not possible to do.
> > >  > >  There she was, stripped from nearly half a gig to 50mb, stark
> > >  > > naked, but looking like Homer Simpson.
> > >  > >  The speed increase was fantastic. Now I am going for 30 mb, then
> > >  > > 16, then 8, then .......
> > >  > > The full story would take too long to tell, so I will leave  
> >  it at
> > that.
> > >   > > Suffice to say I have now dumped Linux
> > > and gone back to  
> >  Unix BSD and bash.
> > >   > > That is when met Minsys and it was a
> > > good feeling.
> > >  > > I was Bourne again, bash'ed about the head, so to speak.
> > >  > > Oh I forgot there is a need for one extra doorway off ros-general
> > >  > >  especially for me.
> > >  > > Mark it ros-insane.
> > >  > >
> > >  > > Cheers and rosuccess
> > >  > >
> > >  > > Justin
> > >  > >
> > >  > > ---- "Robert Köpferl" <rob(a)koepferl.de> wrote:
> > >  > > > Hhmmm, what you tink of is what I call a GDI-Port+win32 of xfree.
> > >  > > > etc
> > >  > > > Richard Campbell wrote:
> > >  > > > > XFree86 has already been ported to windows, whats the point
> > >  > > in a ROS port?
> > >  > > > > etc
> > >  > > > > Robert Köpferl wrote:
> > >  > > > > etc
> > >  > > > >> It should be possible to port Xfree86 to ROS (be it win32 or
> > >  > > posix) as
> > >  > > > >> it has been proted to os2.
> > >  > > > >>etc
> > >  > > > >> TwoTailedFox wrote:
> > >  > > > >> etc
> > >  > > > >>> I've seen quite a few users propose ideas, such as a 
> >  new GUI, or new
> > > >   > >
> > > > >>> functionality, only to be told it doesn't fit in with the
> > > >  > Core Goal of
> > > >  > > >>> ReactOS.
> > > >  > > >>> etc
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