ReactOS UI...

[Al Hartman]

First of all, thanks to all of you for all your work on ReactOS.

Secondly, why reinvent the wheel?

Why not simply assure that ReactOS is compatible with WindowBlinds?

http://www.stardock.com/products/windowblinds/

I'm much more interested in ReactOS having Rock-Solid base functionality...

- Printing
- Networking
- Speed
- Compatibility with Apps.

Rather than UI eye-candy.

That stuff can come later, or by using the many third party skinning 
apps for Windows.

Thanks!

Al

[Magnus Olsen]

Hi
The focus is not on UI as u think we got a UI cordinator irc:mf That is
working with other to
make a better UI for reactos. And we devloper can constrate on devloping new
stuff.
We are foucr more with compatible by apps. and implement missing api or
bugfixing api
and devloping other part that is need it.  To get more stable and
compatiblity is
same thing as implement more api that we are missing.   We are fouct on
networking
but it take time getting it stable. See 0.3.0 roadmap what we are amin at
for that release
It is so much u want todo but it take time to write and if u want printer
support start wrinting
it for us. if u want more speed, try figout what u can optimze. But we are
still in alpha, reactos
own blitblt is faster that windows xp software blitblt even some hardware
acclation blitblit.
But if u install a graphic card drv, then the graphic will be faster. Then u
got hardware accllartion
of the graphic in reactos. Our Graphic card drv vbe2.0 does not using any
hardware accltion
more that provide direct access to graphic card then our win32k need doing
all drawing it self
(software mode), If u install drv for u graphic card the drv will take over
some api in win32k and it call
down to a hardware acclation function.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Al Hartman" [e-mail]
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Sent: den 15 October 2005 15:25
Subject: [ros-general] ReactOS UI...
> First of all, thanks to all of you for all your work on ReactOS.
>
> Secondly, why reinvent the wheel?
>
> Why not simply assure that ReactOS is compatible with WindowBlinds?
>
> http://www.stardock.com/products/windowblinds/
>
> I'm much more interested in ReactOS having Rock-Solid base

functionality...
> Printing
> Networking
> Speed
> Compatibility with Apps.
>
> Rather than UI eye-candy.
>
> That stuff can come later, or by using the many third party skinning
> apps for Windows.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Al
>
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[Mikko Tikkanen]

2005/10/15, Al Hartman [e-mail]:
> First of all, thanks to all of you for all your work on ReactOS.
>
> Secondly, why reinvent the wheel?
>
> Why not simply assure that ReactOS is compatible with WindowBlinds?
>
> http://www.stardock.com/products/windowblinds/
>
> I'm much more interested in ReactOS having Rock-Solid base functionality...
> Printing
> Networking
> Speed
> Compatibility with Apps.
>
> Rather than UI eye-candy.
>
> That stuff can come later, or by using the many third party skinning
> apps for Windows.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Al

Since when has UI been eye-candy? When it comes to UI design, what you
see is just the cream on the cake, there are layers of functionality
under it.

Besides, we need solid base UI in case someone doesn't want
windowsblinds. That's just bad practice (force someone to use certain
third party apps). ROS is practically all about flexibility so such
behaviour really doesn't fit the picture.

It's not like we have one developer who has to focus either on
functionality or eye candy... Things progress side by side.

+like I have stated many many times before: One key factors of
acceptance is likeability which basically means how functional we
experience the UI before actually using it. Since acceptance plays a
key factor in decisions it should not be overlooked as mere "cream on
the cake". To me, that is blanant overlooking of basic psychology.
Since we want to get as many user we can get and that way get as many
dev's as possible the importance of UI looks becomes quite clear.

-mikko

[Ged]

Al Hartman wrote:
> Why not simply assure that ReactOS is compatible with WindowBlinds?

It's easier to implement our own fully customizable skin than try and 
implement all the functionality within explorer.exe to ensure windows 
blinds works correctly.
> I'm much more interested in ReactOS having Rock-Solid base 
> functionality...
> Printing
> Networking
> Speed
> Compatibility with Apps.
>
> Rather than UI eye-candy.
>
> That stuff can come later, or by using the many third party skinning 
> apps for Windows.

It's all part of the development process. As certain parts grow, so must 
others.
Explorer.exe is no different and there are people who want to work on 
the interface, so why stop that. It has to be done at some time.

Ged.