> From: Refaz Anam [mailto:refazanam@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 06:34
> To: Ge van Geldorp
> Subject: Re: Ekush / ReactOS
>
>
> Dear Ge van Geldorf,
>
> Thank you very much for asking the clarification. I know,
> still so many questions are there and need to be answered
> accordingly. But before proceed I need to introduce myself.
>
> I'm a 40 years old attorney and completed my final education
> in UK. I'm looking after the Lianasoft Foundation, a
> non-profit organization and eventually the solicitor from
> Project 21 side. But I'll try to answer to your questions in
> normal way and not as a lawyer. :)
> I involved to the Project 21 just from few months back.
> Pleaese forgive me if I made wrong answers to the technical
> questions as I'm not a technical person.
>
> Anyway.............
>
> -------------
> Your account of the events after the Ekush release somewhat
> conflicts with my memories of those events. Also, you make it
> sound like it was impossible to publish the source because of
> technical reasons. However, in EPC/doc/Readme.rtf (part of
> the binary package released last week) the following
> statement was made:
>
> "Q. You guys says "Project published under the GPL" but why
> don't you published sources? A. Initially we decided that,
> EKUSH should be published under the GPL. But, still there is
> some confusion within the team. We are now sharing sources
> between team members only and unless the confusion goes
> removed we cannot publish sources"
> -------------
>
>
> You are right.
> Actually, the main problem comes from a few percentage of
> non-GPL compatible code, some of them are propitery or some
> are not compatible with GPL policy. But basically those
> sources came from some other projects and not coded/written
> by our devs. I personally was afraid to publish these sources
> publicly without owners written permission. And due to the
> fact, team was confused to publish the source tree. But
> Geldorf, I can assure you more than 100% about its
> cleanliness and there is NO LEAKED SOURCES FROM WINDOWS/WINDOWS 2000.
>
> Sorry Geldorf, I cannot write more for now as I'm going to
> outside and will be back tomorrow. I'll come with more
> clarifications when back.
>
> Thanks and regards,
>
>
> Refaz Anam
> Lianasoft Foundation
>
>
> Ge van Geldorp <gvg(a)reactos.com> wrote:
> Dear Mr. Anam,
>
> I've read your announcement that appeared on
> http://www.ekush.com and on the ReactOS forum at
> http://www.reactos.com/en/content/view/full/7336. First of
> all, let me say I'm happy that you've decided to respect the
> GPL by publishing your source along with the binaries.
>
> The relationship between Ekush and ReactOS has had a very bad
> start. Personally, I'm willing to forget about this and make
> a fresh start. This would require honest and open
> communication from now on. Unfortunately, I have doubts about
> some of the statements in your announcement, specifically:
>
> "Initial release of Ekush (binary) recently has been
> published to the Akshor.com and available for download and
> also started uploading weekly binary snapshot. But it was
> impossible to make the source downloadable because of the
> limited bandwidth issue. Site exceeds its maximum bandwidth
> within 3/4 days after the binary made downloadable; a few GB
> bandwidth has been increased but reached again to its maximum
> limit within another 2/3 days and gone down permanently."
>
> Your account of the events after the Ekush release somewhat
> conflicts with my memories of those events. Also, you make it
> sound like it was impossible to publish the source because of
> technical reasons. However, in EPC/doc/Readme.rtf (part of
> the binary package released last week) the following
> statement was made:
>
> "Q. You guys says "Project published under the GPL" but why
> don't you published sources? A. Initially we decided that,
> EKUSH should be published under the GPL. But, still there is
> some confusion within the team. We are now sharing sources
> between team members only and unless the confusion goes
> removed we cannot publish sources"
>
> This doesn't sound like a techical issue but a deliberate
> decision by the Ekush team. Again, I'm willing to forget this
> decision and leave it behind us, but the fact that you seem
> to distort the truth in your recent announcement worries me.
>
> As some people on the ReactOS mailing list have noted, we
> need to be sure none of the leaked Microsoft Windows 2000
> source makes its way into our code. Since we cannot compare
> submitted code against the leaked source (that would mean
> looking at the leaked source ourselves, which would "taint"
> us) there has to be a level of trust towards the people who
> submit code. I have to say, so far Ekush has done little to
> earn that trust.
>
> Just for the record, I'm just one of the developers of
> ReactOS. I don't (and
> can't) speak for the other developers, or for the project as a whole.
>
> Best regards, Ge van Geldorp.
>
>
>
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Dear Mr. Anam,
I've read your announcement that appeared on http://www.ekush.com and on the
ReactOS forum at http://www.reactos.com/en/content/view/full/7336. First of
all, let me say I'm happy that you've decided to respect the GPL by
publishing your source along with the binaries.
The relationship between Ekush and ReactOS has had a very bad start.
Personally, I'm willing to forget about this and make a fresh start. This
would require honest and open communication from now on. Unfortunately, I
have doubts about some of the statements in your announcement, specifically:
"Initial release of Ekush (binary) recently has been published to the
Akshor.com and available for download and also started uploading weekly
binary snapshot. But it was impossible to make the source downloadable
because of the limited bandwidth issue. Site exceeds its maximum bandwidth
within 3/4 days after the binary made downloadable; a few GB bandwidth has
been increased but reached again to its maximum limit within another 2/3
days and gone down permanently."
Your account of the events after the Ekush release somewhat conflicts with
my memories of those events. Also, you make it sound like it was impossible
to publish the source because of technical reasons. However, in
EPC/doc/Readme.rtf (part of the binary package released last week) the
following statement was made:
"Q. You guys says Project published under the GPL but why dont you
published sources?
A. Initially we decided that, EKUSH should be published under the GPL. But,
still there is some confusion within the team. We are now sharing sources
between team members only and unless the confusion goes removed we cannot
publish sources"
This doesn't sound like a techical issue but a deliberate decision by the
Ekush team. Again, I'm willing to forget this decision and leave it behind
us, but the fact that you seem to distort the truth in your recent
announcement worries me.
As some people on the ReactOS mailing list have noted, we need to be sure
none of the leaked Microsoft Windows 2000 source makes its way into our
code. Since we cannot compare submitted code against the leaked source (that
would mean looking at the leaked source ourselves, which would "taint" us)
there has to be a level of trust towards the people who submit code. I have
to say, so far Ekush has done little to earn that trust.
Just for the record, I'm just one of the developers of ReactOS. I don't (and
can't) speak for the other developers, or for the project as a whole.
Best regards, Gé van Geldorp.
Hi guys,
I'm getting for the second time this week, a message from ros_dev &
ros_general that mails are bouncing and I have to re-activate.
However when I click on the link in the link in the mail it gives an error
that the confirmation string is wrong, manually filling it in doesn't help
either.
Any ideas why I'm getting these messages? Currently my mailbox has a size of
250Mb with 200kb used... I can't imagin that space is the problem?
Anyone else having this problem?
Greets,
Nick
Hello,
Some of the recent problems we have had with design issues and with
roles in the project have led me to the idea of our current project
structure. I think we need to overhaul the system and would like to
hear some feedback. If anyone wants to jump in please do so. Note the
kernel discussion regarding ntoskrnl just made me think about it but
that situation is resolving itself.
In the past we have discussed having a single person that reviews and
commits all patches to check for breakages and such but the CI system
will take care of this issue for us. The big problem we face are
disagreements on design decisions and direction so I propose the
following change,
Right now we have 4 or 5 really well defined roles
Project Coordinator - Jason Filby
Kernel Coordinator - vizzini
Application Coordinator - Brian Palmer
Translation Team Coordinator - Fireball
Release Coordinator - Robert
And a possible webmaster. - ?? T ????
I think we also need to look at clearly defining the role of developers
that maintain certain key modules. Maybe we need a new page on the
website that lists this. The following should be added to the project
structure
ntoskrnl component managers - Filip, Hartmut
explorer.exe - Martin Fuchs
the installation system - Eric Kohl
Win32 subsystem - GvG
networking - Arty
build system maintainer - Casper
This seems to be the natural evolution the project is taking. This will
help if someone new joins the project and has questions and will give
us someone to go to in the event of a problem.
Thanks
Steven
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hi, my name is iván vodopiviz (aka BlueSteel), i'm from argentina
(that's in south america...) and this is my first post to this list.
here's my question:
i'd like to run an app coded in VB wich uses gdi+. will this run in
reactos by just dropping gdi+.dll the system folder?
ps. sorry for my english, my native language is spanish.
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Hi GvG!
Ge van Geldorp wrote:
>>For those who are at the Linux world expo at Frankfurt, how
>>is that going? I, and probably the rest of the people reading
>>the mail lists whana know any news from you guys.
>
>
> Yeah, sorry about not reporting earlier, I'd expected to be able to hook up
> to the Internet there in some way but that didn't happen.
>
> We've been there with Aleksey Bragin, KJK::Hyperion, Steven Edwards and
> myself on all 3 days, Wednesday Emanuele Aliberti and Eric Kohl were there
> and Thursday Thomas Weidenmueller. I think Thomas already summed it up quite
> nicely. We didn't have as much visitors as at Linux World in San Francisco
> last year, but the people in Frankfurt were far more positive about ReactOS
> than the people in SF. I was also amazed at the number of people who had
> already heard about the project, must have been between 50 and 75%. We
> distributed a few hundred hand-outs and 80 LiveCDs. It was nice to see some
> of the people accept a hand-out, walk on with their head down reading it,
> suddenly stop and turn back to look at the demo.
That's good news.
>
> Most of the time we ran the Quake 1 demo plus some other stuff, depending on
Quake 1 !!!!! how!?!!? write up a Howto_Quake_Reactos!
Please Please Please!!!!! 8^)
> our mood. Sometimes ReactOS would crash after a few minutes, sometimes it
> would stay up for an hour or so. Running too many programs at the same time
> was a sure recipe for a crash. Still, most people didn't run away even if it
> crashed, they understood the alpha-state of development.
>
> We also made contact with some other OSS groups, like the Samba people and
> the Linux-on-XBOX guys. Everyone seemed very willing to cooperate.
>
> For me personally the nicest thing was to meet some of the other developers.
> I'd seen Steven before but none of the others. We also had some good
> discussions about future plans (what to target after 0.3).
>
> I took some pictures, will post them on some website tomorrow, I'm too tired
> now.
>
> Gé van Geldorp.
>
>
Very Good!
James
Well, while trying to find a disk image creator for win32, i ran across
this page:
http://www.freeoszoo.org/
and noticed they have a disk image for ReactOS 0.2.3, niice :P
