hi!
first you have to start the boot.bat file. After this progress you
can retry C:\REACTOS>aboot
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: theUser BL [SMTP:theuserbl@hotmail.com]
> Gesendet am: Freitag, 27. Februar 2004 09:43
> An: ros-general(a)reactos.com
> Betreff: [ros-general] The booting stops without error-message
>
> Hi!
>
> Yesterday I wanted to try ReactOS on my computer. I downloaded the
> 0.2.0-binaries and started aboot:
>
> --------------------------------------
>
> Microsoft(R) Windows98
> (C)Copyright Microsoft Corp 1981-1999.
>
> C:\>cd reactos
>
> C:\REACTOS>aboot
>
> C:\REACTOS>loadros system32\ntoskrnl.exe system32\hal.dll
> system32\drivers\acpi.
> sys /DEBUGPORT=SCREEN bootc.lst
> Loading: system32\ntoskrnl.exe ..................
> Loading: system32\hal.dll ...
> Loading: system32\drivers\acpi.sys ........
> Loading: bootc.lst .Loading: system32\drivers\pci.sys .
> Loading: system32\drivers\scsiport.sys ..
> Loading: system32\drivers\atapi.sys ..
> Loading: system32\drivers\class2.sys ..
> Loading: system32\drivers\disk.sys ..
> Loading: system32\drivers\vfatfs.sys ...
> Loading: system32\drivers\ndis.sys ......
> Loading: system32\config\system ..
> Loading: system32\ansi.nls ...
> Loading: system32\oem.nls ...
> Loading: system32\casemap.nls .
> _
> --------------------------------------
> (the "_" is the actual cursor-position)
>
>
> After that, the system hangs up. It is possible to reboot with
> [Ctrl]+[Alt]+[del], but you cant abort. And there don't stand any
> error-message.
>
> I don't know, _why_ it hangs up. Is it possible, that it can't read the
> Win98SE-filesystem?
> But why doesn't stand there an error-message?
>
>
> Greatings
> theuserbl
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Hi!
Yesterday I wanted to try ReactOS on my computer. I downloaded the
0.2.0-binaries and started aboot:
--------------------------------------
Microsoft(R) Windows98
(C)Copyright Microsoft Corp 1981-1999.
C:\>cd reactos
C:\REACTOS>aboot
C:\REACTOS>loadros system32\ntoskrnl.exe system32\hal.dll
system32\drivers\acpi.
sys /DEBUGPORT=SCREEN bootc.lst
Loading: system32\ntoskrnl.exe ..................
Loading: system32\hal.dll ...
Loading: system32\drivers\acpi.sys ........
Loading: bootc.lst .Loading: system32\drivers\pci.sys .
Loading: system32\drivers\scsiport.sys ..
Loading: system32\drivers\atapi.sys ..
Loading: system32\drivers\class2.sys ..
Loading: system32\drivers\disk.sys ..
Loading: system32\drivers\vfatfs.sys ...
Loading: system32\drivers\ndis.sys ......
Loading: system32\config\system ..
Loading: system32\ansi.nls ...
Loading: system32\oem.nls ...
Loading: system32\casemap.nls .
_
--------------------------------------
(the "_" is the actual cursor-position)
After that, the system hangs up. It is possible to reboot with
[Ctrl]+[Alt]+[del], but you cant abort. And there don't stand any
error-message.
I don't know, _why_ it hangs up. Is it possible, that it can't read the
Win98SE-filesystem?
But why doesn't stand there an error-message?
Greatings
theuserbl
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Hmmm.. I can only test it later, because here I have an internet-connection,
but I can not test reactos. And later at home, I can test reactos, but
doesn't have internet-connection.
> first you have to start the boot.bat file. After this progress you
>can retry C:\REACTOS>aboot
Are you sure?
I have looked at first in the bat-files.
aboot.bat have:
loadros system32\ntoskrnl.exe system32\hal.dll system32\drivers\acpi.sys
/DEBUGPORT=SCREEN bootc.lst
rem comment added and changed for no reason
and boot.bat have:
loadros system32\ntoskrnl.exe system32\hal.dll /DEBUGPORT=BOCHS bootc.lst
So, aboot load one driver more (acpi.sys) and the debugport is the screen
and not bochs.
And because my computer is too slow for bochs, I run it direct on my
computer. So I think, that aboot makes more sense. :-/
For me it looks that boot and aboot are the same. boot for the virtual
machine and aboot for the real computer.
But if you think it's better to use boot, I will test it later at home with
it.
Greatings
theuserbl
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Here are two interesting links for including DOS-Support in ReactOS:
An free 32bit DOS. From there it is possible to use DOS-programs like "type"
and so.
http://freedos-32.sourceforge.net/
And here a DosBOX, which run 16bit DOS-Programs on different
OperatingSystems and different Hardware. Their code can be usefull for
ReactOS I think:
http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/news.php?show_news=1
Greatings
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Hi!
I have now send the following mail to the FSF (gnu(a)gnu.org) with the subject
"legality of using closed-source programs with completly GPLd ReactOS".
Greatings
theuserbl
Here the mail:
>Hi!
>
>There existing a project, which want to rewrite MS-Windows NT, which is
>called ReactOS.
>You can see the home of the project at http://www.reactos.com/
>
>The idea is, to have an OS, which can run all MS-Windows NT programs, which
>can make use of > all the drivers, which exists for WinNT and so on.
>
>But the problem is, that the complete OS is under the GPL.
>
>The people behind the ReactOS-project don't see a problem in using
>closed-source
>programs/libraries/drivers on top of their OS.
>
>But what do _you_ think about it?
>
>I have now mentioned the problem ob their mailingliste at
>http://reactos.com:8080/archives/public/ros-general/2004-February/000736.ht…
>
>But I think, it would be nice, to here a comment of licensing-competent
>people. So, what do _you_ > think about this?
>
>Greatings
>theuserbl
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hi,
yesterday I read the first time about ReactOS. Probably it exactly is,
what I am dreaming about for years.
Small, stable, easy to use. and compatible to windows.... GREAT
I did not read the whole list archies yet, so please be patient, if my
ideas are old ones ;-)
Since I do not understand C (in fact I hate c/cpp) some very odd
suggestions are, to use very current technologies like
- XML
- a progamming language that is cool (probably no one exists yet)
so, for now it seems to be best to stay with c/cpp. :-(
that means to me it does not make sense to help in kernel development.
A part that I could imagine is, finding software that is "cool" and
assigning "certificates" to this software.
ok, it seems a little bit early compared to reactOS state... but, let us
think about it.
A great problem on windows at the time is,
there are millions of software projects, free or commercial, that one
can easily find to be very bad in software architecture and/or GUI
design.
Now if reactOS gets more mighty on the OS market, it could be an
instance that labels good software and thus forces software development
to raise in quality.
different labels to give:
"reactOS compatible", "easy to use", "poweruser software", "absolutly
stable"...
It took me years to find some great software and I think I can name some
applications that will fit, and some that will never. ;-)
later, reactOS could use these certificates to obtain money from
commercial software developers, as M$ does with its driver certificates.
"reactOS certified" ;-)
what do you think?
bye
Jan
At 08:43 23/02/2004 +0100, you wrote:
>On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 10:41:23PM -0800, Wierd Wierd wrote:
>> I was cruising the forums a little bit ago, and came
>> across some rather unpleasant postings by some of our
>> users. It would be in our best interests to clean
>> them up promptly, as their disrespect to people with
>> honest questions reflects poorly on our developers,
>> and the project as a whole.
>>
>> There may be more, but I found the derogatory postings
>> in the 'Please...' thread, and the "Blue screen of
>> death" thread.
>>
>> I hope this is an isolated incident, but if it keeps
>> up, we may have to have a dedicated forum moderator to
>> keep things civil in there. Some people just dont
>> know how to be nice to each other.
>
>Then you'll get endless debates over where moderators should draw the
>line. Personally i don't like censorship, and i think only exceptionally
>disrupting postings (like the one concerning Betov, and the one which
>links to the source code) should be removed. It might however be better
>if we'd require a login...
Though on my own RosAsm Board, i am in favour of a "zero sensorship" rule,
for a Board like ReactOS one, keeping completely free from war threads is
a must. There is no limit to what the Anti-Gpl guys are able to do.
Also, forcing to registration would be much more frustrating, IMHO, than
deleting offending and WW3 threads.
Betov.
Hi!
In your forum existing a question without any answer:
http://www.reactos.com/content/view/full/1493
And I wonder. Is the complete ReactOS under the GPL?
On the main-side of the homepage there stand:
>License
>ReactOS is licensed under the GNU General Public License.
But if really the complete ReactOS is under the GPL (and without an special
exception like in the GNU Classpath project
http://www.gnu.org/software/classpath/license.html).
The problem of the GPL is, that you can't link GPL-incompatible programs
(that are the most of the Windows-programs) with GPL libraries.
In the FAQ there stand nothing about this. But I have seen, that you have
discussed this at
http://reactos.com:8080/archives/public/ros-general/2004-February/000703.ht…
But it seems, that you are still happy with the GPL.
Have a look at Linux. The primary widget-toolkits are GTK+ and Qt. GTK+ is
licensed under the LGPL, thats ok. But Qt is licensed under the GPL (and
QPL) for free. And there existing a third license for commercial use.
If you want to create a closed-source library, which linked to Qt, you need
the commercial license of the Qt, because you can only link to
GPL-libraries, if your program is GPL-compatible.
I think, that ReactOS needs more to be LGPL, then GNU/Linux.
All modules for the Linux-kernel and all drivers are GPL. And they _must_ be
GPL, because the kernel is GPL.
But you want to use with ReactOS closed-source drivers. So your
ReactOS-kernel can not be GPL or it is not legal to use all the
MS-Windows-drivers for ReactOS.
The problem is not only, to run programs on ReactOS. I think, it would be
nice, if it is possible, to create GPL-incompatible
programs/libraries/drivers on ReactOS without using MS-Windows.
I see a very big problem in the use of the GPL in ReactOS.
Do you have contacted the FreeSoftwareFoundation or Richard Stallman, what
they think about the legallity of using proprietary
programs/libraries/drivers with an ReactOS, which is completly under the
GPL?
Greatings
theuserbl
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Hello,
we need to establish a list of Language Coordinators, since we're actually
starting to do the translation of the web site.
And using this case I'm testing the ros-translation list.
I'm sending a copy of this email to ros-general list, but this is the one
and only time I do this, since some people haven't subscribed to
ros-translation yet. Please reply/discuss only in ros-translation, not
ros-general, about translation topics.
As for now, we have:
Dutch (dut) - Mark IJbema
German (ger) - ? Thomas, you have time? Or maybe someone else better, since
you're quite busy with coding?
Italian (ita) - ?
Russian (rus) - me for now, but someone else later
French (fre) - ?
Spanish (spa) - ?
That's languages we have at least two people on them.
With the best regards,
Aleksey Bragin.