Re: Issue 1. [Re: [ros-general] ROS-User-Issues]

Sorry guys.
In my preoccupation with separating USER from PROGRAMMER I stepped into a rather smelly
issue of my own making.
However your response is making me aware of a number of issues which may have lain
dormant, simply because nobody "in the know" would have had (myself included)
the courage to ask such a seemingl silly question.. 
How many Users would know what NT even means: Afterall Users don't program or do
they?
Cheers and rosuccess
Justin
---- "Robert Köpferl" <rob(a)koepferl.de> wrote: 
>   Seems to me like you missed the point (or I did)
>  
>  It's about updates, patches for win98 and their current apps still 
>  working on win98
>  
>  jwalsh(a)bigpond.net.au wrote:
> >   Issue 1
> >  
> >  Telstra Bigbond has announced that they are following Microsofts plan to drop  support
> > for Windows98 fron 17th August this year. 
> >  It is clear that Microsoft is no longer supporting backward compatability, only forward.
> >  These are two entirely different Technologies, both at the OS and at the File level.
> >  If ReactOS policy is to be plug compatibe with Windows, how does ReactOS plan to deal
> > with it? 
> >  
> >  Cheers and rosuccess
> >  Justin 
> >  
> >  
> >  ---- Justin Walsh <justin_2006(a)operamail.com> wrote: 
> >  
> > >  ---- Justin Walsh
> > > <justin_2006(a)operamail.com> wrote: 
> > >
> > > >  I'm a little confused. 
> > > Well not anymore.
> > > This may not be a Wiki, but I can make it look like one.
> > > All I have to do is comply strictly with the ReactOS Code of Conduct.
> > > I think ROS-User-Issues or RUI is pretty clear.
> > > If you need to talk code then got to:
> > > ROS-Programmer-Issues or RPI.
> > > We already have Mingw-Msys for those don't just read or talk code, 
> > > but seriously do it.
> > > Kicking off RUI.
> > > I recommend taking a look at http://www.pcpitstop.com
> > > He has some interesting things to say about Microsoft.
> > > Not that I agree entirely with him.
> > >
> > > Any objections or recomendations are welcome
> > >
> > > Cheers and rosuccess
> > >
> > > Justin
> > >
> > >
> > >    
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -- 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way:
> > > Download Opera 8 at http://www.opera.com
> > >
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> >  
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[Kevin Lawton]

I sometimes wonder if even Microsoft know what NT means. 
Look at the Windows 2000 splash screen - 'based on NT technology'. 
Translate the 'NT' into 'New Technology' and we get 'based on new
technology technology'. 
Not very confidence inspiring, Microsoft. 
Kevin.   
   
>   -----Original Message-----
>  From: ros-general-bounces(a)reactos.org
>  [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of
>  jwalsh(a)bigpond.net.au
>  Sent: 24 October 2005 21:13
>  To: ReactOS General List
>  Cc: Robert Köpferl
>  Subject: Re: Issue 1. [Re: [ros-general] ROS-User-Issues]
>  
>  
>  Sorry guys.
>  In my preoccupation with separating USER from PROGRAMMER I 
>  stepped into a rather smelly issue of my own making.
>  However your response is making me aware of a number of issues 
>  which may have lain dormant, simply because nobody "in the know" 
>  would have had (myself included) the courage to ask such a 
>  seemingl silly question.. 
>  How many Users would know what NT even means: Afterall Users 
>  don't program or do they?
>  Cheers and rosuccess
>  Justin
>  ---- "Robert Köpferl" <rob(a)koepferl.de> wrote: 
> >   Seems to me like you missed the point (or I did)
> >  
> >  It's about updates, patches for win98 and their current apps still 
> >  working on win98
> >  
> >  jwalsh(a)bigpond.net.au wrote:
> >  > Issue 1
> >  > 
> >  > Telstra Bigbond has announced that they are following  
>  Microsofts plan to
> drop  support for Windows98 fron 17th August 
>  this year. 
> >   > It is clear that Microsoft is no longer
> > supporting backward  
>  compatability, only forward.
> >   > These are two entirely different
> > Technologies, both at the OS  
>  and at the File level.
> >   > If ReactOS policy is to be plug compatibe
> > with Windows, how  
>  does ReactOS plan to deal with it? 
> > >   
> > >  Cheers and rosuccess
> > >  Justin 
> > >  
> > >  
> > >  ---- Justin Walsh <justin_2006(a)operamail.com> wrote: 
> > >  
> > > >  ---- Justin Walsh
> > > > <justin_2006(a)operamail.com> wrote: 
> > > >
> > > > >I'm a little confused.
> > > >
> > > > Well not anymore.
> > > > This may not be a Wiki, but I can make it look like one.
> > > > All I have to do is comply strictly with the ReactOS Code of Conduct.
> > > > I think ROS-User-Issues or RUI is pretty clear.
> > > > If you need to talk code then got to:
> > > > ROS-Programmer-Issues or RPI.
> > > > We already have Mingw-Msys for those don't just read or talk code, 
> > > > but seriously do it.
> > > > Kicking off RUI.
> > > > I recommend taking a look at http://www.pcpitstop.com
> > > > He has some interesting things to say about Microsoft.
> > > > Not that I agree entirely with him.
> > > >
> > > > Any objections or recomendations are welcome
> > > >
> > > > Cheers and rosuccess
> > > >
> > > > Justin
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >    
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -- 
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way:
> > > > Download Opera 8 at http://www.opera.com
> > > >
> > > > Powered by Outblaze
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > ros-general mailing list
> > > > ros-general(a)reactos.org
> > > > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general 
> > >  
> > >  
> > >  _______________________________________________
> > >  ros-general mailing list
> > >  ros-general(a)reactos.org
> > >  http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
> > >   
> >  _______________________________________________
> >  ros-general mailing list
> >  ros-general(a)reactos.org
> >  http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general 
>  
>  
>  _______________________________________________
>  ros-general mailing list
>  ros-general(a)reactos.org
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>

[TwoTailedFox]

It was initially supposed to mean "New Technology", but soon after, it
became Just Another Meaningless Acronym.

However... Look at VMS, and WNT. See how the shorthand of Windows NT
is a play on one-upping VMS? :p

On 10/24/05, Kevin Lawton <kepla(a)btinternet.com> wrote:
>   I sometimes wonder if even Microsoft know what NT
> means.
>  Look at the Windows 2000 splash screen - 'based on NT technology'.
>  Translate the 'NT' into 'New Technology' and we get 'based on new
> technology technology'.
>  Not very confidence inspiring, Microsoft.
>  Kevin.
>
> >   -----Original Message-----
> >  From: ros-general-bounces(a)reactos.org
> >  [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of
> >  jwalsh(a)bigpond.net.au
> >  Sent: 24 October 2005 21:13
> >  To: ReactOS General List
> >  Cc: Robert Köpferl
> >  Subject: Re: Issue 1. [Re: [ros-general] ROS-User-Issues]
> >
> >
> >  Sorry guys.
> >  In my preoccupation with separating USER from PROGRAMMER I
> >  stepped into a rather smelly issue of my own making.
> >  However your response is making me aware of a number of issues
> >  which may have lain dormant, simply because nobody "in the know"
> >  would have had (myself included) the courage to ask such a
> >  seemingl silly question..
> >  How many Users would know what NT even means: Afterall Users
> >  don't program or do they?
> >  Cheers and rosuccess
> >  Justin
> >  ---- "Robert Köpferl" <rob(a)koepferl.de> wrote:
> > >   Seems to me like you missed the point (or I did)
> > >
> > >  It's about updates, patches for win98 and their current apps still
> > >  working on win98
> > >
> > >  jwalsh(a)bigpond.net.au wrote:
> > >  > Issue 1
> > >  >
> > >  > Telstra Bigbond has announced that they are following 
> >  Microsofts plan to drop
> >  support for Windows98 fron 17th August
> >  this year.
> > >   > It is clear that Microsoft is no longer
> > > supporting backward 
> >  compatability, only forward.
> > >   > These are two entirely different
> > > Technologies, both at the OS 
> >  and at the File level.
> > >   > If ReactOS policy is to be plug compatibe
> > > with Windows, how 
> >  does ReactOS plan to deal with it?
> > > >  
> > > >  Cheers and rosuccess
> > > >  Justin
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  ---- Justin Walsh <justin_2006(a)operamail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >---- Justin Walsh <justin_2006(a)operamail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>I'm a little confused.
> > > > >
> > > > >Well not anymore.
> > > > >This may not be a Wiki, but I can make it look like one.
> > > > >All I have to do is comply strictly with the ReactOS Code of Conduct.
> > > > >I think ROS-User-Issues or RUI is pretty clear.
> > > > >If you need to talk code then got to:
> > > > >ROS-Programmer-Issues or RPI.
> > > > >We already have Mingw-Msys for those don't just read or talk code,
> > > > >but seriously do it.
> > > > >Kicking off RUI.
> > > > >I recommend taking a look at http://www.pcpitstop.com
> > > > >He has some interesting things to say about Microsoft.
> > > > >Not that I agree entirely with him.
> > > > >
> > > > >Any objections or recomendations are welcome
> > > > >
> > > > >Cheers and rosuccess
> > > > >
> > > > >Justin
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >--
> > > > >_______________________________________________
> > > > >Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way:
> > > > >Download Opera 8 at http://www.opera.com
> > > > >
> > > > >Powered by Outblaze
> > > > >
> > > > >_______________________________________________
> > > > >ros-general mailing list
> > > > >ros-general(a)reactos.org
> > > > >http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  _______________________________________________
> > > >  ros-general mailing list
> > > >  ros-general(a)reactos.org
> > > >  http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
> > > >  
> > >  _______________________________________________
> > >  ros-general mailing list
> > >  ros-general(a)reactos.org
> > >  http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general 
> >
> >  _______________________________________________
> >  ros-general mailing list
> >  ros-general(a)reactos.org
> >  http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
> >  
>
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>  

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[Filip Navara]

That's just MS marketing propaganda. It was originally sorthand for 
N-Ten, which is code name for Intel i860 processor the first NT version 
was targeted at.

- Filip

TwoTailedFox wrote:

>  It was initially supposed to mean "New
> Technology", but soon after, it
> became Just Another Meaningless Acronym.
>
> However... Look at VMS, and WNT. See how the shorthand of Windows NT
> is a play on one-upping VMS? :p
>
> On 10/24/05, Kevin Lawton <kepla(a)btinternet.com> wrote:
>   
>
> >  I sometimes wonder if even Microsoft know what NT
> > means.
> > Look at the Windows 2000 splash screen - 'based on NT technology'.
> > Translate the 'NT' into 'New Technology' and we get 'based on new
> > technology technology'.
> > Not very confidence inspiring, Microsoft.
> > Kevin.
> >
> >     
> >
> > >  -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ros-general-bounces(a)reactos.org
> > > [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of
> > > jwalsh(a)bigpond.net.au
> > > Sent: 24 October 2005 21:13
> > > To: ReactOS General List
> > > Cc: Robert Köpferl
> > > Subject: Re: Issue 1. [Re: [ros-general] ROS-User-Issues]
> > >
> > >
> > > Sorry guys.
> > > In my preoccupation with separating USER from PROGRAMMER I
> > > stepped into a rather smelly issue of my own making.
> > > However your response is making me aware of a number of issues
> > > which may have lain dormant, simply because nobody "in the know"
> > > would have had (myself included) the courage to ask such a
> > > seemingl silly question..
> > > How many Users would know what NT even means: Afterall Users
> > > don't program or do they?
> > > Cheers and rosuccess
> > > Justin
> > > ---- "Robert Köpferl" <rob(a)koepferl.de> wrote:
> > >       
> > >
> > > >  Seems to me like you missed the point (or I did)
> > > >
> > > > It's about updates, patches for win98 and their current apps still
> > > > working on win98
> > > >
> > > > jwalsh(a)bigpond.net.au wrote:
> > > >         
> > > >
> > > > >Issue 1
> > > > >
> > > > >Telstra Bigbond has announced that they are following
> > > > >          
> > > > > 
> > > Microsofts plan to drop  support for Windows98 fron 17th August
> > > this year.
> > >       
> > >
> > > >  >It is clear that Microsoft is no longer
> > > > supporting backward
> > > > >          
> > > > > 
> > > compatability, only forward.
> > >       
> > >
> > > >  >These are two entirely different Technologies,
> > > > both at the OS
> > > > >          
> > > > > 
> > > and at the File level.
> > >       
> > >
> > > >  >If ReactOS policy is to be plug compatibe with
> > > > Windows, how
> > > > >          
> > > > > 
> > > does ReactOS plan to deal with it?
> > >       
> > >
> > > >  >Cheers and rosuccess
> > > > >Justin
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >---- Justin Walsh <justin_2006(a)operamail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >          
> > > > >
> > > > >>---- Justin Walsh <justin_2006(a)operamail.com> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>            
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>I'm a little confused.
> > > > >>>              
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>Well not anymore.
> > > > >>This may not be a Wiki, but I can make it look like one.
> > > > >>All I have to do is comply strictly with the ReactOS Code of Conduct.
> > > > >>I think ROS-User-Issues or RUI is pretty clear.
> > > > >>If you need to talk code then got to:
> > > > >>ROS-Programmer-Issues or RPI.
> > > > >>We already have Mingw-Msys for those don't just read or talk code,
> > > > >>but seriously do it.
> > > > >>Kicking off RUI.
> > > > >>I recommend taking a look at http://www.pcpitstop.com
> > > > >>He has some interesting things to say about Microsoft.
> > > > >>Not that I agree entirely with him.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Any objections or recomendations are welcome
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Cheers and rosuccess
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Justin
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>--
> > > > >>_______________________________________________
> > > > >>Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way:
> > > > >>Download Opera 8 at http://www.opera.com
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Powered by Outblaze
> > > > >>
> > > > >>_______________________________________________
> > > > >>ros-general mailing list
> > > > >>ros-general(a)reactos.org
> > > > >>http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
> > > > >>            
> > > > >>
> > > > >_______________________________________________
> > > > >ros-general mailing list
> > > > >ros-general(a)reactos.org
> > > > >http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
> > > > >
> > > > >          
> > > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > ros-general mailing list
> > > > ros-general(a)reactos.org
> > > > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
> > > >         
> > > >  
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > ros-general mailing list
> > > ros-general(a)reactos.org
> > > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
> > >
> > >       
> > >  
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> > ros-general(a)reactos.org
> > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
> >
> >     
> >  
>
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>

[Wesley Parish]

On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 10:28, TwoTailedFox wrote:
>   It was initially supposed to mean "New
> Technology", but soon after, it
>  became Just Another Meaningless Acronym. 
Actually "Not There".
>  
>  However... Look at VMS, and WNT. See how the shorthand of Windows NT
>  is a play on one-upping VMS? :p
>
>  On 10/24/05, Kevin Lawton <kepla(a)btinternet.com> wrote:
> >   I sometimes wonder if even Microsoft know what NT
> > means.
> >  Look at the Windows 2000 splash screen - 'based on NT technology'.
> >  Translate the 'NT' into 'New Technology' and we get 'based on new
> >  technology technology'. Not very confidence inspiring, Microsoft.
> >  Kevin.
> >
> > >   -----Original Message-----
> > >  From: ros-general-bounces(a)reactos.org
> > >  [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of
> > >  jwalsh(a)bigpond.net.au
> > >  Sent: 24 October 2005 21:13
> > >  To: ReactOS General List
> > >  Cc: Robert Köpferl
> > >  Subject: Re: Issue 1. [Re: [ros-general] ROS-User-Issues]
> > >
> > >
> > >  Sorry guys.
> > >  In my preoccupation with separating USER from PROGRAMMER I
> > >  stepped into a rather smelly issue of my own making.
> > >  However your response is making me aware of a number of issues
> > >  which may have lain dormant, simply because nobody "in the know"
> > >  would have had (myself included) the courage to ask such a
> > >  seemingl silly question..
> > >  How many Users would know what NT even means: Afterall Users
> > >  don't program or do they?
> > >  Cheers and rosuccess
> > >  Justin
> > >
> > >  ---- "Robert Köpferl" <rob(a)koepferl.de> wrote:
> > > >   Seems to me like you missed the point (or I did)
> > > >
> > > >  It's about updates, patches for win98 and their current apps still
> > > >  working on win98
> > > >
> > > >  jwalsh(a)bigpond.net.au wrote:
> > > >  > Issue 1
> > > >  >
> > > >  > Telstra Bigbond has announced that they are following 
> > >  Microsofts plan to drop  support for Windows98 fron 17th August
> > >  this year.
> > >
> > > >   > It is clear that Microsoft is no longer
> > > > supporting backward 
> > >  compatability, only forward.
> > >
> > > >   > These are two entirely different
> > > > Technologies, both at the OS 
> > >  and at the File level.
> > >
> > > >   > If ReactOS policy is to be plug compatibe
> > > > with Windows, how 
> > >  does ReactOS plan to deal with it?
> > >
> > > >   > Cheers and rosuccess
> > > >  > Justin
> > > >  >
> > > >  > ---- Justin Walsh <justin_2006(a)operamail.com> wrote:
> > > >  >>---- Justin Walsh <justin_2006(a)operamail.com> wrote:
> > > >  >>>I'm a little confused.
> > > >  >>
> > > >  >>Well not anymore.
> > > >  >>This may not be a Wiki, but I can make it look like one.
> > > >  >>All I have to do is comply strictly with the ReactOS Code of
> > > >  >> Conduct. I think ROS-User-Issues or RUI is pretty clear.
> > > >  >>If you need to talk code then got to:
> > > >  >>ROS-Programmer-Issues or RPI.
> > > >  >>We already have Mingw-Msys for those don't just read or talk code,
> > > >  >>but seriously do it.
> > > >  >>Kicking off RUI.
> > > >  >>I recommend taking a look at http://www.pcpitstop.com
> > > >  >>He has some interesting things to say about Microsoft.
> > > >  >>Not that I agree entirely with him.
> > > >  >>
> > > >  >>Any objections or recomendations are welcome
> > > >  >>
> > > >  >>Cheers and rosuccess
> > > >  >>
> > > >  >>Justin
> > > >  >>
> > > >  >>
> > > >  >>
> > > >  >>
> > > >  >>
> > > >  >>
> > > >  >>--
> > > >  >>_______________________________________________
> > > >  >>Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way:
> > > >  >>Download Opera 8 at http://www.opera.com
> > > >  >>
> > > >  >>Powered by Outblaze
> > > >  >>
> > > >  >>_______________________________________________
> > > >  >>ros-general mailing list
> > > >  >>ros-general(a)reactos.org
> > > >  >>http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
> > > >  >
> > > >  > _______________________________________________
> > > >  > ros-general mailing list
> > > >  > ros-general(a)reactos.org
> > > >  > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
> > > >
> > > >  _______________________________________________
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> > > >  http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general 
> > >  _______________________________________________
> > >  ros-general mailing list
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> > >  http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general 
> >  _______________________________________________
> >  ros-general mailing list
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> >  http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general 
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