Re: Issue 1. [Re: [ros-general] ROS-User-Issues]

Sorry guys.
In my preoccupation with separating USER from PROGRAMMER I stepped into a rather smelly issue of my own making.
However your response is making me aware of a number of issues which may have lain dormant, simply because nobody "in the know" would have had (myself included) the courage to ask such a seemingl silly question.. 
How many Users would know what NT even means: Afterall Users don't program or do they?
Cheers and rosuccess
Justin
---- "Robert Köpferl" [e-mail] wrote:
> Seems to me like you missed the point (or I did)
>
> It's about updates, patches for win98 and their current apps still 
> working on win98
>
> [e-mail] wrote:
> > Issue 1
> >
> > Telstra Bigbond has announced that they are following Microsofts plan to drop  support for Windows98 fron 17th August this year. 
> > It is clear that Microsoft is no longer supporting backward compatability, only forward.
> > These are two entirely different Technologies, both at the OS and at the File level.
> > If ReactOS policy is to be plug compatibe with Windows, how does ReactOS plan to deal with it?
> >
> > Cheers and rosuccess
> > Justin
> >
> > ---- Justin Walsh [e-mail] wrote:
> > > ---- Justin Walsh [e-mail] wrote:
> > > > I'm a little confused.
> > >
> > > Well not anymore.
> > > This may not be a Wiki, but I can make it look like one.
> > > All I have to do is comply strictly with the ReactOS Code of Conduct.
> > > I think ROS-User-Issues or RUI is pretty clear.
> > > If you need to talk code then got to:
> > > ROS-Programmer-Issues or RPI.
> > > We already have Mingw-Msys for those don't just read or talk code, 
> > > but seriously do it.
> > > Kicking off RUI.
> > > I recommend taking a look at http://www.pcpitstop.com
> > > He has some interesting things to say about Microsoft.
> > > Not that I agree entirely with him.
> > >
> > > Any objections or recomendations are welcome
> > >
> > > Cheers and rosuccess
> > >
> > > Justin
> > >
> > > -- 
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[Kevin Lawton]

I sometimes wonder if even Microsoft know what NT means. 
Look at the Windows 2000 splash screen - 'based on NT technology'. 
Translate the 'NT' into 'New Technology' and we get 'based on new technology technology'. 
Not very confidence inspiring, Microsoft. 
Kevin.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail]
> [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of
> [e-mail]
> Sent: 24 October 2005 21:13
> To: ReactOS General List
> Cc: Robert Köpferl
> Subject: Re: Issue 1. [Re: [ros-general] ROS-User-Issues]
>
> Sorry guys.
> In my preoccupation with separating USER from PROGRAMMER I 
> stepped into a rather smelly issue of my own making.
> However your response is making me aware of a number of issues 
> which may have lain dormant, simply because nobody "in the know" 
> would have had (myself included) the courage to ask such a 
> seemingl silly question.. 
> How many Users would know what NT even means: Afterall Users 
> don't program or do they?
> Cheers and rosuccess
> Justin
> ---- "Robert Köpferl" [e-mail] wrote:
> > Seems to me like you missed the point (or I did)
> >
> > It's about updates, patches for win98 and their current apps still 
> > working on win98
> >
> > [e-mail] wrote:
> > > Issue 1
> > >
> > > Telstra Bigbond has announced that they are following
>
> Microsofts plan to drop  support for Windows98 fron 17th August 
> this year.
> > > It is clear that Microsoft is no longer supporting backward
>
> compatability, only forward.
> > > These are two entirely different Technologies, both at the OS
>
> and at the File level.
> > > If ReactOS policy is to be plug compatibe with Windows, how
>
> does ReactOS plan to deal with it?
> > > Cheers and rosuccess
> > > Justin
> > >
> > > ---- Justin Walsh [e-mail] wrote:
> > > > ---- Justin Walsh [e-mail] wrote:
> > > > > I'm a little confused.
> > > >
> > > > Well not anymore.
> > > > This may not be a Wiki, but I can make it look like one.
> > > > All I have to do is comply strictly with the ReactOS Code of Conduct.
> > > > I think ROS-User-Issues or RUI is pretty clear.
> > > > If you need to talk code then got to:
> > > > ROS-Programmer-Issues or RPI.
> > > > We already have Mingw-Msys for those don't just read or talk code, 
> > > > but seriously do it.
> > > > Kicking off RUI.
> > > > I recommend taking a look at http://www.pcpitstop.com
> > > > He has some interesting things to say about Microsoft.
> > > > Not that I agree entirely with him.
> > > >
> > > > Any objections or recomendations are welcome
> > > >
> > > > Cheers and rosuccess
> > > >
> > > > Justin
> > > >
> > > > -- 
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way:
> > > > Download Opera 8 at http://www.opera.com
> > > >
> > > > Powered by Outblaze
> > > >
> > > > ros-general mailing list
> > > > [e-mail]
> > > > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
> > >
> > > ros-general mailing list
> > > [e-mail]
> > > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
> >
> > ros-general mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
>
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[TwoTailedFox]

It was initially supposed to mean "New Technology", but soon after, it
became Just Another Meaningless Acronym.

However... Look at VMS, and WNT. See how the shorthand of Windows NT
is a play on one-upping VMS? :p

On 10/24/05, Kevin Lawton [e-mail] wrote:
> I sometimes wonder if even Microsoft know what NT means.
> Look at the Windows 2000 splash screen - 'based on NT technology'.
> Translate the 'NT' into 'New Technology' and we get 'based on new technology technology'.
> Not very confidence inspiring, Microsoft.
> Kevin.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [e-mail]
> > [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of
> > [e-mail]
> > Sent: 24 October 2005 21:13
> > To: ReactOS General List
> > Cc: Robert Köpferl
> > Subject: Re: Issue 1. [Re: [ros-general] ROS-User-Issues]
> >
> > Sorry guys.
> > In my preoccupation with separating USER from PROGRAMMER I
> > stepped into a rather smelly issue of my own making.
> > However your response is making me aware of a number of issues
> > which may have lain dormant, simply because nobody "in the know"
> > would have had (myself included) the courage to ask such a
> > seemingl silly question..
> > How many Users would know what NT even means: Afterall Users
> > don't program or do they?
> > Cheers and rosuccess
> > Justin
> > ---- "Robert Köpferl" [e-mail] wrote:
> > > Seems to me like you missed the point (or I did)
> > >
> > > It's about updates, patches for win98 and their current apps still
> > > working on win98
> > >
> > > [e-mail] wrote:
> > > > Issue 1
> > > >
> > > > Telstra Bigbond has announced that they are following
> >
> > Microsofts plan to drop  support for Windows98 fron 17th August
> > this year.
> > > > It is clear that Microsoft is no longer supporting backward
> >
> > compatability, only forward.
> > > > These are two entirely different Technologies, both at the OS
> >
> > and at the File level.
> > > > If ReactOS policy is to be plug compatibe with Windows, how
> >
> > does ReactOS plan to deal with it?
> > > > Cheers and rosuccess
> > > > Justin
> > > >
> > > > ---- Justin Walsh [e-mail] wrote:
> > > > > ---- Justin Walsh [e-mail] wrote:
> > > > > > I'm a little confused.
> > > > >
> > > > > Well not anymore.
> > > > > This may not be a Wiki, but I can make it look like one.
> > > > > All I have to do is comply strictly with the ReactOS Code of Conduct.
> > > > > I think ROS-User-Issues or RUI is pretty clear.
> > > > > If you need to talk code then got to:
> > > > > ROS-Programmer-Issues or RPI.
> > > > > We already have Mingw-Msys for those don't just read or talk code,
> > > > > but seriously do it.
> > > > > Kicking off RUI.
> > > > > I recommend taking a look at http://www.pcpitstop.com
> > > > > He has some interesting things to say about Microsoft.
> > > > > Not that I agree entirely with him.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any objections or recomendations are welcome
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers and rosuccess
> > > > >
> > > > > Justin
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way:
> > > > > Download Opera 8 at http://www.opera.com
> > > > >
> > > > > Powered by Outblaze
> > > > >
> > > > > ros-general mailing list
> > > > > [e-mail]
> > > > > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
> > > >
> > > > ros-general mailing list
> > > > [e-mail]
> > > > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
> > >
> > > ros-general mailing list
> > > [e-mail]
> > > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
> >
> > ros-general mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
>
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> http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general

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[Filip Navara]

That's just MS marketing propaganda. It was originally sorthand for 
N-Ten, which is code name for Intel i860 processor the first NT version 
was targeted at.

- Filip

TwoTailedFox wrote:
> It was initially supposed to mean "New Technology", but soon after, it
> became Just Another Meaningless Acronym.
>
> However... Look at VMS, and WNT. See how the shorthand of Windows NT
> is a play on one-upping VMS? :p
>
> On 10/24/05, Kevin Lawton [e-mail] wrote:
> > I sometimes wonder if even Microsoft know what NT means.
> > Look at the Windows 2000 splash screen - 'based on NT technology'.
> > Translate the 'NT' into 'New Technology' and we get 'based on new technology technology'.
> > Not very confidence inspiring, Microsoft.
> > Kevin.
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [e-mail]
> > > [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of
> > > [e-mail]
> > > Sent: 24 October 2005 21:13
> > > To: ReactOS General List
> > > Cc: Robert Köpferl
> > > Subject: Re: Issue 1. [Re: [ros-general] ROS-User-Issues]
> > >
> > > Sorry guys.
> > > In my preoccupation with separating USER from PROGRAMMER I
> > > stepped into a rather smelly issue of my own making.
> > > However your response is making me aware of a number of issues
> > > which may have lain dormant, simply because nobody "in the know"
> > > would have had (myself included) the courage to ask such a
> > > seemingl silly question..
> > > How many Users would know what NT even means: Afterall Users
> > > don't program or do they?
> > > Cheers and rosuccess
> > > Justin
> > > ---- "Robert Köpferl" [e-mail] wrote:
> > > > Seems to me like you missed the point (or I did)
> > > >
> > > > It's about updates, patches for win98 and their current apps still
> > > > working on win98
> > > >
> > > > [e-mail] wrote:
> > > > > Issue 1
> > > > >
> > > > > Telstra Bigbond has announced that they are following
> > >
> > > Microsofts plan to drop  support for Windows98 fron 17th August
> > > this year.
> > > > > It is clear that Microsoft is no longer supporting backward
> > >
> > > compatability, only forward.
> > > > > These are two entirely different Technologies, both at the OS
> > >
> > > and at the File level.
> > > > > If ReactOS policy is to be plug compatibe with Windows, how
> > >
> > > does ReactOS plan to deal with it?
> > > > > Cheers and rosuccess
> > > > > Justin
> > > > >
> > > > > ---- Justin Walsh [e-mail] wrote:
> > > > > > ---- Justin Walsh [e-mail] wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >I'm a little confused.
> > > > > > >              
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Well not anymore.
> > > > > > This may not be a Wiki, but I can make it look like one.
> > > > > > All I have to do is comply strictly with the ReactOS Code of Conduct.
> > > > > > I think ROS-User-Issues or RUI is pretty clear.
> > > > > > If you need to talk code then got to:
> > > > > > ROS-Programmer-Issues or RPI.
> > > > > > We already have Mingw-Msys for those don't just read or talk code,
> > > > > > but seriously do it.
> > > > > > Kicking off RUI.
> > > > > > I recommend taking a look at http://www.pcpitstop.com
> > > > > > He has some interesting things to say about Microsoft.
> > > > > > Not that I agree entirely with him.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any objections or recomendations are welcome
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers and rosuccess
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Justin
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way:
> > > > > > Download Opera 8 at http://www.opera.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Powered by Outblaze
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ros-general mailing list
> > > > > > [e-mail]
> > > > > > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
> > > > >
> > > > > ros-general mailing list
> > > > > [e-mail]
> > > > > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
> > > >
> > > > ros-general mailing list
> > > > [e-mail]
> > > > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
> > >
> > > ros-general mailing list
> > > [e-mail]
> > > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
> >
> > ros-general mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
>
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[Wesley Parish]

On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 10:28, TwoTailedFox wrote:
> It was initially supposed to mean "New Technology", but soon after, it
> became Just Another Meaningless Acronym.

Actually "Not There".
> However... Look at VMS, and WNT. See how the shorthand of Windows NT
> is a play on one-upping VMS? :p
>
> On 10/24/05, Kevin Lawton [e-mail] wrote:
> > I sometimes wonder if even Microsoft know what NT means.
> > Look at the Windows 2000 splash screen - 'based on NT technology'.
> > Translate the 'NT' into 'New Technology' and we get 'based on new
> > technology technology'. Not very confidence inspiring, Microsoft.
> > Kevin.
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [e-mail]
> > > [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of
> > > [e-mail]
> > > Sent: 24 October 2005 21:13
> > > To: ReactOS General List
> > > Cc: Robert Köpferl
> > > Subject: Re: Issue 1. [Re: [ros-general] ROS-User-Issues]
> > >
> > > Sorry guys.
> > > In my preoccupation with separating USER from PROGRAMMER I
> > > stepped into a rather smelly issue of my own making.
> > > However your response is making me aware of a number of issues
> > > which may have lain dormant, simply because nobody "in the know"
> > > would have had (myself included) the courage to ask such a
> > > seemingl silly question..
> > > How many Users would know what NT even means: Afterall Users
> > > don't program or do they?
> > > Cheers and rosuccess
> > > Justin
> > >
> > > ---- "Robert Köpferl" [e-mail] wrote:
> > > > Seems to me like you missed the point (or I did)
> > > >
> > > > It's about updates, patches for win98 and their current apps still
> > > > working on win98
> > > >
> > > > [e-mail] wrote:
> > > > > Issue 1
> > > > >
> > > > > Telstra Bigbond has announced that they are following
> > >
> > > Microsofts plan to drop  support for Windows98 fron 17th August
> > > this year.
> > > > > It is clear that Microsoft is no longer supporting backward
> > >
> > > compatability, only forward.
> > > > > These are two entirely different Technologies, both at the OS
> > >
> > > and at the File level.
> > > > > If ReactOS policy is to be plug compatibe with Windows, how
> > >
> > > does ReactOS plan to deal with it?
> > > > > Cheers and rosuccess
> > > > > Justin
> > > > >
> > > > > ---- Justin Walsh [e-mail] wrote:
> > > > > > ---- Justin Walsh [e-mail] wrote:
> > > > > > >I'm a little confused.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well not anymore.
> > > > > > This may not be a Wiki, but I can make it look like one.
> > > > > > All I have to do is comply strictly with the ReactOS Code of
> > > > > > Conduct. I think ROS-User-Issues or RUI is pretty clear.
> > > > > > If you need to talk code then got to:
> > > > > > ROS-Programmer-Issues or RPI.
> > > > > > We already have Mingw-Msys for those don't just read or talk code,
> > > > > > but seriously do it.
> > > > > > Kicking off RUI.
> > > > > > I recommend taking a look at http://www.pcpitstop.com
> > > > > > He has some interesting things to say about Microsoft.
> > > > > > Not that I agree entirely with him.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any objections or recomendations are welcome
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers and rosuccess
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Justin
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way:
> > > > > > Download Opera 8 at http://www.opera.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Powered by Outblaze
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ros-general mailing list
> > > > > > [e-mail]
> > > > > > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
> > > > >
> > > > > ros-general mailing list
> > > > > [e-mail]
> > > > > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
> > > >
> > > > ros-general mailing list
> > > > [e-mail]
> > > > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
> > >
> > > ros-general mailing list
> > > [e-mail]
> > > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
> >
> > ros-general mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
>
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