ReactOS 0.2.4 Released

[Robert Köpferl]

The final version of ROS 0.2.4 has been uploaded to sourceforge
and is now available to you.

[Ralph Shumaker]

Robert Köpferl wrote:

>   The final version of ROS 0.2.4 has been uploaded to
> sourceforge
>  and is now available to you.
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>  ros-general(a)reactos.com
>  http://reactos.com/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
>
>
>  
A couple of weeks ago, I downloaded it:
-rw-------    1 rafael   rafael    7973432 Sep 15 01:37 
reactos-0.2.4-bin.zip

Then I extracted it to a subdirectory of my home directory.  I need to 
know how to get it running.  Is there a HOWTO somewhere?  I could not 
find anything (documentation, that is) within the archive itself.

I'm currently running Red Hat Linux v9.  I don't have M$ on my machine.

(This list seems rather dormant.  I hope I'm posting to the right place.)

[Robert Köpferl]

The bin -taste will be dropped some time. But
it is still usable. It's intended to be startet from a naked DOS in realMode.
Thus you need at least a FAT16/32 partition to extract that and a DOS-Disk. It
should work with freedos.org, too.
Boot it,
cd reactos  (whrere you extracted)
run boot.bat

Ralph Shumaker schrieb:
>   Robert Köpferl wrote:
>  
> >   The final version of ROS 0.2.4 has been uploaded
> > to sourceforge
> >  and is now available to you.
> >  _______________________________________________
> >  ros-general mailing list
> >  ros-general(a)reactos.com
> >  http://reactos.com/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
> >
> >
> >  
>  A couple of weeks ago, I downloaded it:
>  -rw-------    1 rafael   rafael    7973432 Sep 15 01:37 
>  reactos-0.2.4-bin.zip
>  
>  Then I extracted it to a subdirectory of my home directory.  I need to 
>  know how to get it running.  Is there a HOWTO somewhere?  I could not 
>  find anything (documentation, that is) within the archive itself.
>  
>  I'm currently running Red Hat Linux v9.  I don't have M$ on my machine.
>  
>  (This list seems rather dormant.  I hope I'm posting to the right place.)
>  _______________________________________________
>  ros-general mailing list
>  ros-general(a)reactos.com
>  http://reactos.com/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
>

[Thomas Weidenmueller]

Robert Köpferl wrote:

>   The bin -taste will be dropped some time. But
>  it is still usable. It's intended to be startet from a naked DOS in 
>  realMode.
>  Thus you need at least a FAT16/32 partition to extract that and a 
>  DOS-Disk. It
>  should work with freedos.org, too.
>  Boot it,
>  cd reactos  (whrere you extracted)
>  run boot.bat 
That's very bad, boot.bat and friends are depreciated as they may cause 
various problems - hope someone will remove these files from the 
repository soon.

Regards
Thomas

[Ralph Shumaker]

Thomas Weidenmueller wrote:

>   Robert Köpferl wrote:
>
> >   The bin -taste will be dropped some time. But
> >  it is still usable. It's intended to be startet from a naked DOS in 
> >  realMode.
> >  Thus you need at least a FAT16/32 partition to extract that and a 
> >  DOS-Disk. It
> >  should work with freedos.org, too.
> >  Boot it,
> >  cd reactos  (whrere you extracted)
> >  run boot.bat 
>
>  That's very bad, boot.bat and friends are depreciated as they may 
>  cause various problems - hope someone will remove these files from the 
>  repository soon.
>
>  Regards
>  Thomas 

The only formula offered to me (for starting ReactOS) has been shot 
down, even though I did not understand it completely anyway.  It soundes 
like Robert was saying that I need to boot with a DOS disk, be it M$ 
(Micro-expensive-$oft) or freeDOS, before I can run ReactOS.

Thomas says (regarding the only way offered to me) that it is very bad 
and may cause various problems, but does not offer an alternative.  What 
kinds of problems?  What alternatives are there?  My original question 
was to request the location of a HOWTO.

I would like to see this OS in action.  Further, I would like to try to 
run some DOS and Windows programs, just to find out where ReactOS is, 
and how far it has left to go.  Screenshots are o.k., but I would like 
to play with it and see what I can (and cannot) do.

[Martijn Stegeman]

On 2-okt-04, at 21:07, Ralph Shumaker wrote:

>   The only formula offered to me (for starting ReactOS)
> has been shot 
>  down, even though I did not understand it completely anyway.  It 
>  soundes like Robert was saying that I need to boot with a DOS disk, be 
>  it M$ (Micro-expensive-$oft) or freeDOS, before I can run ReactOS.
>
>  Thomas says (regarding the only way offered to me) that it is very bad 
>  and may cause various problems, but does not offer an alternative.  
>  What kinds of problems?  What alternatives are there?  My original 
>  question was to request the location of a HOWTO.
>
>  I would like to see this OS in action.  Further, I would like to try 
>  to run some DOS and Windows programs, just to find out where ReactOS 
>  is, and how far it has left to go.  Screenshots are o.k., but I would 
>  like to play with it and see what I can (and cannot) do. 
You very specifically asked about the -bin.zip file. The site isn't 
quite clear about this, but you'd better download the CD image or one 
of the emulators with ReactOS preloaded. Either way, you really should 
read

http://www.reactos.com/en/content/view/full/260

because that definitely answers even your first question.

Cheers,
Martijn

[Ralph Shumaker]

Martijn Stegeman wrote:

>   On 2-okt-04, at 21:07, Ralph Shumaker wrote:
>
> >   The only formula offered to me (for starting
> > ReactOS) has been shot 
> >  down, even though I did not understand it completely anyway.  It 
> >  soundes like Robert was saying that I need to boot with a DOS disk, 
> >  be it M$ (Micro-expensive-$oft) or freeDOS, before I can run ReactOS.
> >
> >  Thomas says (regarding the only way offered to me) that it is very 
> >  bad and may cause various problems, but does not offer an 
> >  alternative.  What kinds of problems?  What alternatives are there?  
> >  My original question was to request the location of a HOWTO.
> >
> >  I would like to see this OS in action.  Further, I would like to try 
> >  to run some DOS and Windows programs, just to find out where ReactOS 
> >  is, and how far it has left to go.  Screenshots are o.k., but I would 
> >  like to play with it and see what I can (and cannot) do. 
>
>  You very specifically asked about the -bin.zip file. The site isn't 
>  quite clear about this, but you'd better download the CD image or one 
>  of the emulators with ReactOS preloaded. Either way, you really should 
>  read
>
>  http://www.reactos.com/en/content/view/full/260
>
>  because that definitely answers even your first question. 

You made me go back and look at my original post.  The only question was 
"Is there a HOWTO somewhere?".  The rest consisted of comments or 
statements (to be precise).

In regards to the archive file, I merely stated that I downloaded it, 
extracted it, and could not find documentation within it.

When I said "I need to know how to get it running.", I was not refering 
to the archive file but rather to the extracted content, namely ReactOS.

Thanks for the link.  I'm downloading the ISO even as I type this.  I 
guess I'm going to have to move my partitions around a little and create 
a FAT boot partition.  Would there be any advantage to FAT32 over FAT16 
with ReactOS?

I haven't had the need for a FAT partition since I walked away from M$ 
Wingbloze (MS Windows), and that was on an older HDD.

I'm confident that I will do better with this now that you have pointed 
out the install CD ISO.  After I finish downloading that image, I'll 
search my memory on how to burn it to a CD.  (It's been a while.)

I've only started reading your linked web page, but am already finding 
good information.  Thank you.

[Ge van Geldorp]

>   From: Ralph Shumaker
>  
>  Thomas says (regarding the only way offered to me) that it is 
>  very bad  and may cause various problems, but does not offer an 
>  alternative.  What kinds of problems? 
The "boot.bat" method is a left-over from ancient days when all that was
needed to get the kernel booting was to load it into memory and start
executing it. These days, the boot loader has to do more work, e.g.
determining the configuration of the PC. Boot.bat doesn't do that and never
will.

>   What alternatives are there? 
The best alternative is to install from a (bootable) CD and not from the bin
distribution. The second best alternative (if you must use the bin
distribution for some reason) is to use a freeldr boot diskette. You can
download that from http://reactos.csh-consult.dk/download/freeldr.zip

>   I would like to see this OS in action.  Further, I
> would like 
>  to try to run some DOS and Windows programs, just to find out
>  where ReactOS is, and how far it has left to go. 
No use in trying (16-bit) DOS programs, ReactOS doesn't support 16 bit
programs at all at the moment.

Gé van Geldorp.

[K McI]

You can try to run it in Bochs or VMware, since the ISO is bootable.

          -uniQ

[Ralph Shumaker]

K McI wrote:

>   You can try to run it in Bochs or VMware, since the
> ISO is bootable. 

Emulation is another layer for me to learn.  I'd rather not go that 
route unless there is some decent advantage to it, like system safety.  
I certainly would not want ReactOS trashing my Linux setup.

[K McI]

Ralph Shumaker wrote:
>   K McI wrote:
>  
> >   You can try to run it in Bochs or VMware, since
> > the ISO is bootable. 
>  
>  
>  
>  Emulation is another layer for me to learn.  I'd rather not go that 
>  route unless there is some decent advantage to it, like system safety.  
>  I certainly would not want ReactOS trashing my Linux setup.
>  _______________________________________________
>  ros-general mailing list
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>  http://reactos.com/mailman/listinfo/ros-general 
As long as you don't let setup kill your Linux partitions you're 
probably fine. Make sure you understand how FreeLoader works so you can 
remove it 1ce you're done.

       -uniQ

[Lucio Diaz]

For those who are at the Linux world expo at Frankfurt, how is that going? I, and probably
the rest of the people reading the mail lists whana know any news from you guys.

 

Good Luck,

 

Lucio Diaz.


		
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[Thomas Weidenmueller]

Lucio Diaz wrote:

>       For those who are at the Linux world expo at
> Frankfurt, how is
>      that going? I, and probably the rest of the people reading the
>      mail lists whana know any news from you guys. 
>  
I was there only on thursday but it was awesome - not one single 
negative response. And people were pretty interested, we run out of the 
live cds iirc 2 or 3 hours and we run out of our flyers about an hour 
before the end ;) I was also surprised how many people have heard of 
ReactOS ;)

Regards,
Thomas

[Richard Campbell]

All the more reason for us to get our current issues straightened 
out...yeah, i know, haven't submitted a god damn thing code wise in 
several months.  I'm going through a long burnout phase, totally sucks.  
Can't figure out a way to solve it...

But alas...

Regedit, editing a string causes an infinite loop of some kind.

As of 3-4 days ago, the explorer windows weren't working correctly.  
This may have been fixed, i haven't checked.

Random lockups, blue screens need to be ironed out.

Then next time, we give out livecds ;)

Thomas Weidenmueller wrote:

>   Lucio Diaz wrote:
>
> >       For those who are at the Linux world expo at
> > Frankfurt, how is
> >      that going? I, and probably the rest of the people reading the
> >      mail lists whana know any news from you guys. 
>  I was there only on thursday but it was awesome - not one single 
>  negative response. And people were pretty interested, we run out of 
>  the live cds iirc 2 or 3 hours and we run out of our flyers about an 
>  hour before the end ;) I was also surprised how many people have heard 
>  of ReactOS ;)
>
>  Regards,
>  Thomas
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>  ros-general(a)reactos.com
>  http://reactos.com/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
>

[Ge van Geldorp]

>   For those who are at the Linux world expo at
> Frankfurt, how 
>  is that going? I, and probably the rest of the people reading 
>  the mail lists whana know any news from you guys. 
Yeah, sorry about not reporting earlier, I'd expected to be able to hook up
to the Internet there in some way but that didn't happen.

We've been there with Aleksey Bragin, KJK::Hyperion, Steven Edwards and
myself on all 3 days, Wednesday Emanuele Aliberti and Eric Kohl were there
and Thursday Thomas Weidenmueller. I think Thomas already summed it up quite
nicely. We didn't have as much visitors as at Linux World in San Francisco
last year, but the people in Frankfurt were far more positive about ReactOS
than the people in SF. I was also amazed at the number of people who had
already heard about the project, must have been between 50 and 75%. We
distributed a few hundred hand-outs and 80 LiveCDs. It was nice to see some
of the people accept a hand-out, walk on with their head down reading it,
suddenly stop and turn back to look at the demo.

Most of the time we ran the Quake 1 demo plus some other stuff, depending on
our mood. Sometimes ReactOS would crash after a few minutes, sometimes it
would stay up for an hour or so. Running too many programs at the same time
was a sure recipe for a crash. Still, most people didn't run away even if it
crashed, they understood the alpha-state of development.

We also made contact with some other OSS groups, like the Samba people and
the Linux-on-XBOX guys. Everyone seemed very willing to cooperate.

For me personally the nicest thing was to meet some of the other developers.
I'd seen Steven before but none of the others. We also had some good
discussions about future plans (what to target after 0.3).

I took some pictures, will post them on some website tomorrow, I'm too tired
now.

Gé van Geldorp.

[James Tabor]

Hi GvG!

Ge van Geldorp wrote:
> >  For those who
> > are at the Linux world expo at Frankfurt, how 
> > is that going? I, and probably the rest of the people reading 
> > the mail lists whana know any news from you guys. 
>  
>  
>  Yeah, sorry about not reporting earlier, I'd expected to be able to hook up
>  to the Internet there in some way but that didn't happen.
>  
>  We've been there with Aleksey Bragin, KJK::Hyperion, Steven Edwards and
>  myself on all 3 days, Wednesday Emanuele Aliberti and Eric Kohl were there
>  and Thursday Thomas Weidenmueller. I think Thomas already summed it up quite
>  nicely. We didn't have as much visitors as at Linux World in San Francisco
>  last year, but the people in Frankfurt were far more positive about ReactOS
>  than the people in SF. I was also amazed at the number of people who had
>  already heard about the project, must have been between 50 and 75%. We
>  distributed a few hundred hand-outs and 80 LiveCDs. It was nice to see some
>  of the people accept a hand-out, walk on with their head down reading it,
>  suddenly stop and turn back to look at the demo. 
That's good news.


>   
>  Most of the time we ran the Quake 1 demo plus some other stuff, depending on 
Quake 1 !!!!! how!?!!? write up a Howto_Quake_Reactos!

Please Please Please!!!!! 8^)


>   our mood. Sometimes ReactOS would crash after a few
> minutes, sometimes it
>  would stay up for an hour or so. Running too many programs at the same time
>  was a sure recipe for a crash. Still, most people didn't run away even if it
>  crashed, they understood the alpha-state of development.
>  
>  We also made contact with some other OSS groups, like the Samba people and
>  the Linux-on-XBOX guys. Everyone seemed very willing to cooperate.
>  
>  For me personally the nicest thing was to meet some of the other developers.
>  I'd seen Steven before but none of the others. We also had some good
>  discussions about future plans (what to target after 0.3).
>  
>  I took some pictures, will post them on some website tomorrow, I'm too tired
>  now.
>  
>  Gé van Geldorp.
>  
>   
Very Good!
James

[James Tabor]

James Tabor wrote:
>   Hi GvG! 
Sorry for the double post, I have a
sendmail problem, it should be ok now.

8^/

James

[Ge van Geldorp]

>   I took some pictures, will post them on some website 
>  tomorrow, I'm too tired now. 
http://www.reactos.nl/LinuxWorld

[Aliberti Emanuele]

Ge van Geldorp wrote:

> >  I took some
> > pictures, will post them on some website 
> > tomorrow, I'm too tired now.
> >     
> >  
> http://www.reactos.nl/LinuxWorld
>
>   
>  
Hi Gé,
nice pictures!

I just dumped the memory card on the web. The low quality is because I 
used a camcorder to take the pictures.

Beware of size: no thumbnails!

http://users.libero.it/ea/papers/lwe2004/index_27a.html

Emanuele

[Lucio Diaz]

 --- Aliberti Emanuele <ea(a)iol.it> escribió: 
>   Ge van Geldorp wrote:
>  
> >  >I took some pictures, will post them on some
>  website 
> > >  tomorrow,
> > > I'm too tired now.
> > >     
> > >  
> > http://www.reactos.nl/LinuxWorld
> >
> >   
> >  
>  Hi Gé,
>  nice pictures!
>  
>  I just dumped the memory card on the web. The low
>  quality is because I 
>  used a camcorder to take the pictures.
>  
>  Beware of size: no thumbnails!
>  
>  
http://users.libero.it/ea/papers/lwe2004/index_27a.html
>   
>  Emanuele
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>  ros-general mailing list
>  ros-general(a)reactos.com
>  http://reactos.com/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
>    
Awesome, i am downloading the images right now, i wish
i could have gone...but my work stuck me at madrid
(for once i was at madrid, in a big airport nexus, and
not at home at canary islands).

I am not a coder, but as i wanted to colaborate, i
have done the only thing i could imagine.

Did a little text to explain the users some questions
very offten asked in the forums... they are
explanations for noobs, but i think we all were noobs
once in our life (myself i am still an noob in many
things :)


Here the text, also in word and HTML, change whatever
you think apropiate
---------------------------------

APLICATION AND PROGRAMS FOR REACTOS...WILL X PROGRAM
WORK IN REACTOS?

1) As you all know, ReactOS is an open source
operating system whose goal is to clone windows NT
(and in the road, to be compatible with all the new
NTs from microsoft, that goes from NT 4.0 to XP).

2) And this mean? Just that ANY Windows compatible
aplication will work in ReactOS (yes, your games too),
thats why NOONE is programing aplications for ReactOS,
there are ALREADY THOUSANDS of aplications READY FOR
USE, with any finality you could imagine.

3) Then, why X dont work in ReactOS? Cause ReactOS is
not finished yet, the kernel is almost complete, but
there are many functions (all those funny DLLs inside
windows) that are still half finished, so some
programs will work, but if they have to call a
function inside a DLL that is not yet there, the
program will crash or just wont start. Thats the
reason everybody in reactos is working in the windows
API (those DLLs that draw beautifull windows in your
computer) and finishing the kernel, so your favourite
aplication can work in reactos as soon as posible.

4) I know they are programing in C++, will they suport
Visual Basic (or Delphy...)?. As you know all those
are programing languages, but at the end all of them
have to be translated into something the computer can
understand (01010010101), those are the Exe files
(among others), so if you make an aplication with C++
and then rebuild the same one with Visual Basic they
will be very similar at the end, as both have to do
the same things. Thus programs made with VB, C++,
Delphy... are already suported by reactos, it just
that if they call any function still not implemented
in reactos your program wont work, and sadly, VB
usually relies more in windows DLLs and windows tricks
than C++ , that is a bit more windows independant.
?This is how i understand it, but i am not a coder-

5) What can i do for Reactos? To work in the API or
the kernel you would need a lot of knowledge of the
windows API, and programming skill, something that
even some programers out of the university have not
mastered, but if you dont have those you (as i does,
cause i dont have the necesary skill) could help
installing and testing the OS, reporting bugs,
translating texts to your language and spreading the
word or ReactOS.

Thankyou,

      Lucio Diaz.


		
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[Casper Hornstrup]

I'm not familiar with an OS named M$. See
http://www.reactos.com/en/content/view/full/260 for
information on how to install ReactOS.

Casper

>   -----Original Message-----
>  From: ros-general-bounces(a)reactos.com 
>  [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Ralph Shumaker
>  Sent: 2. oktober 2004 07:55
>  To: ReactOS General List
>  Subject: Re: [ros-general] ReactOS 0.2.4 Released
>  
>  Robert Köpferl wrote:
>  
> >   The final version of ROS 0.2.4 has been uploaded
> > to  
>  sourceforge and is 
> >   now available to you.
> >  _______________________________________________
> >  ros-general mailing list
> >  ros-general(a)reactos.com
> >  http://reactos.com/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
> >
> >
> >  
>  A couple of weeks ago, I downloaded it:
>  -rw-------    1 rafael   rafael    7973432 Sep 15 01:37 
>  reactos-0.2.4-bin.zip
>  
>  Then I extracted it to a subdirectory of my home directory.  
>  I need to know how to get it running.  Is there a HOWTO 
>  somewhere?  I could not find anything (documentation, that 
>  is) within the archive itself.
>  
>  I'm currently running Red Hat Linux v9.  I don't have M$ on 
>  my machine.
>  
>  (This list seems rather dormant.  I hope I'm posting to the 
>  right place.) _______________________________________________
>  ros-general mailing list
>  ros-general(a)reactos.com
>  http://reactos.com/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
>

[Tom Lee Mullins]

Casper Hornstrup wrote:

>  I'm not familiar with an OS named M$. See
> http://www.reactos.com/en/content/view/full/260 for
> information on how to install ReactOS.
>
> Casper
>   
>  
M$ is how some non-Windows users refer to Microsoft (where
the S is replaced with $).


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