The final version of ROS 0.2.4 has been uploaded to sourceforge and is now available to you.
Robert Köpferl wrote:
The final version of ROS 0.2.4 has been uploaded to sourceforge and is now available to you. _______________________________________________ ros-general mailing list ros-general@reactos.com http://reactos.com/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
A couple of weeks ago, I downloaded it: -rw------- 1 rafael rafael 7973432 Sep 15 01:37 reactos-0.2.4-bin.zip
Then I extracted it to a subdirectory of my home directory. I need to know how to get it running. Is there a HOWTO somewhere? I could not find anything (documentation, that is) within the archive itself.
I'm currently running Red Hat Linux v9. I don't have M$ on my machine.
(This list seems rather dormant. I hope I'm posting to the right place.)
The bin -taste will be dropped some time. But it is still usable. It's intended to be startet from a naked DOS in realMode. Thus you need at least a FAT16/32 partition to extract that and a DOS-Disk. It should work with freedos.org, too. Boot it, cd reactos (whrere you extracted) run boot.bat
Ralph Shumaker schrieb:
Robert Köpferl wrote:
The final version of ROS 0.2.4 has been uploaded to sourceforge and is now available to you. _______________________________________________ ros-general mailing list ros-general@reactos.com http://reactos.com/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
A couple of weeks ago, I downloaded it: -rw------- 1 rafael rafael 7973432 Sep 15 01:37 reactos-0.2.4-bin.zip
Then I extracted it to a subdirectory of my home directory. I need to know how to get it running. Is there a HOWTO somewhere? I could not find anything (documentation, that is) within the archive itself.
I'm currently running Red Hat Linux v9. I don't have M$ on my machine.
(This list seems rather dormant. I hope I'm posting to the right place.) _______________________________________________ ros-general mailing list ros-general@reactos.com http://reactos.com/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
Robert Köpferl wrote:
The bin -taste will be dropped some time. But it is still usable. It's intended to be startet from a naked DOS in realMode. Thus you need at least a FAT16/32 partition to extract that and a DOS-Disk. It should work with freedos.org, too. Boot it, cd reactos (whrere you extracted) run boot.bat
That's very bad, boot.bat and friends are depreciated as they may cause various problems - hope someone will remove these files from the repository soon.
Regards Thomas
Thomas Weidenmueller wrote:
Robert Köpferl wrote:
The bin -taste will be dropped some time. But it is still usable. It's intended to be startet from a naked DOS in realMode. Thus you need at least a FAT16/32 partition to extract that and a DOS-Disk. It should work with freedos.org, too. Boot it, cd reactos (whrere you extracted) run boot.bat
That's very bad, boot.bat and friends are depreciated as they may cause various problems - hope someone will remove these files from the repository soon.
Regards Thomas
The only formula offered to me (for starting ReactOS) has been shot down, even though I did not understand it completely anyway. It soundes like Robert was saying that I need to boot with a DOS disk, be it M$ (Micro-expensive-$oft) or freeDOS, before I can run ReactOS.
Thomas says (regarding the only way offered to me) that it is very bad and may cause various problems, but does not offer an alternative. What kinds of problems? What alternatives are there? My original question was to request the location of a HOWTO.
I would like to see this OS in action. Further, I would like to try to run some DOS and Windows programs, just to find out where ReactOS is, and how far it has left to go. Screenshots are o.k., but I would like to play with it and see what I can (and cannot) do.
On 2-okt-04, at 21:07, Ralph Shumaker wrote:
The only formula offered to me (for starting ReactOS) has been shot down, even though I did not understand it completely anyway. It soundes like Robert was saying that I need to boot with a DOS disk, be it M$ (Micro-expensive-$oft) or freeDOS, before I can run ReactOS.
Thomas says (regarding the only way offered to me) that it is very bad and may cause various problems, but does not offer an alternative. What kinds of problems? What alternatives are there? My original question was to request the location of a HOWTO.
I would like to see this OS in action. Further, I would like to try to run some DOS and Windows programs, just to find out where ReactOS is, and how far it has left to go. Screenshots are o.k., but I would like to play with it and see what I can (and cannot) do.
You very specifically asked about the -bin.zip file. The site isn't quite clear about this, but you'd better download the CD image or one of the emulators with ReactOS preloaded. Either way, you really should read
http://www.reactos.com/en/content/view/full/260
because that definitely answers even your first question.
Cheers, Martijn
Martijn Stegeman wrote:
On 2-okt-04, at 21:07, Ralph Shumaker wrote:
The only formula offered to me (for starting ReactOS) has been shot down, even though I did not understand it completely anyway. It soundes like Robert was saying that I need to boot with a DOS disk, be it M$ (Micro-expensive-$oft) or freeDOS, before I can run ReactOS.
Thomas says (regarding the only way offered to me) that it is very bad and may cause various problems, but does not offer an alternative. What kinds of problems? What alternatives are there? My original question was to request the location of a HOWTO.
I would like to see this OS in action. Further, I would like to try to run some DOS and Windows programs, just to find out where ReactOS is, and how far it has left to go. Screenshots are o.k., but I would like to play with it and see what I can (and cannot) do.
You very specifically asked about the -bin.zip file. The site isn't quite clear about this, but you'd better download the CD image or one of the emulators with ReactOS preloaded. Either way, you really should read
http://www.reactos.com/en/content/view/full/260
because that definitely answers even your first question.
You made me go back and look at my original post. The only question was "Is there a HOWTO somewhere?". The rest consisted of comments or statements (to be precise).
In regards to the archive file, I merely stated that I downloaded it, extracted it, and could not find documentation within it.
When I said "I need to know how to get it running.", I was not refering to the archive file but rather to the extracted content, namely ReactOS.
Thanks for the link. I'm downloading the ISO even as I type this. I guess I'm going to have to move my partitions around a little and create a FAT boot partition. Would there be any advantage to FAT32 over FAT16 with ReactOS?
I haven't had the need for a FAT partition since I walked away from M$ Wingbloze (MS Windows), and that was on an older HDD.
I'm confident that I will do better with this now that you have pointed out the install CD ISO. After I finish downloading that image, I'll search my memory on how to burn it to a CD. (It's been a while.)
I've only started reading your linked web page, but am already finding good information. Thank you.
From: Ralph Shumaker
Thomas says (regarding the only way offered to me) that it is very bad and may cause various problems, but does not offer an alternative. What kinds of problems?
The "boot.bat" method is a left-over from ancient days when all that was needed to get the kernel booting was to load it into memory and start executing it. These days, the boot loader has to do more work, e.g. determining the configuration of the PC. Boot.bat doesn't do that and never will.
What alternatives are there?
The best alternative is to install from a (bootable) CD and not from the bin distribution. The second best alternative (if you must use the bin distribution for some reason) is to use a freeldr boot diskette. You can download that from http://reactos.csh-consult.dk/download/freeldr.zip
I would like to see this OS in action. Further, I would like to try to run some DOS and Windows programs, just to find out where ReactOS is, and how far it has left to go.
No use in trying (16-bit) DOS programs, ReactOS doesn't support 16 bit programs at all at the moment.
Gé van Geldorp.
Ralph Shumaker wrote:
K McI wrote:
You can try to run it in Bochs or VMware, since the ISO is bootable.
Emulation is another layer for me to learn. I'd rather not go that route unless there is some decent advantage to it, like system safety. I certainly would not want ReactOS trashing my Linux setup. _______________________________________________ ros-general mailing list ros-general@reactos.com http://reactos.com/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
As long as you don't let setup kill your Linux partitions you're probably fine. Make sure you understand how FreeLoader works so you can remove it 1ce you're done.
-uniQ
For those who are at the Linux world expo at Frankfurt, how is that going? I, and probably the rest of the people reading the mail lists whana know any news from you guys.
Good Luck,
Lucio Diaz.
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Lucio Diaz wrote:
For those who are at the Linux world expo at Frankfurt, how is that going? I, and probably the rest of the people reading the mail lists whana know any news from you guys.
I was there only on thursday but it was awesome - not one single negative response. And people were pretty interested, we run out of the live cds iirc 2 or 3 hours and we run out of our flyers about an hour before the end ;) I was also surprised how many people have heard of ReactOS ;)
Regards, Thomas
All the more reason for us to get our current issues straightened out...yeah, i know, haven't submitted a god damn thing code wise in several months. I'm going through a long burnout phase, totally sucks. Can't figure out a way to solve it...
But alas...
Regedit, editing a string causes an infinite loop of some kind.
As of 3-4 days ago, the explorer windows weren't working correctly. This may have been fixed, i haven't checked.
Random lockups, blue screens need to be ironed out.
Then next time, we give out livecds ;)
Thomas Weidenmueller wrote:
Lucio Diaz wrote:
For those who are at the Linux world expo at Frankfurt, how is that going? I, and probably the rest of the people reading the mail lists whana know any news from you guys.I was there only on thursday but it was awesome - not one single negative response. And people were pretty interested, we run out of the live cds iirc 2 or 3 hours and we run out of our flyers about an hour before the end ;) I was also surprised how many people have heard of ReactOS ;)
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For those who are at the Linux world expo at Frankfurt, how is that going? I, and probably the rest of the people reading the mail lists whana know any news from you guys.
Yeah, sorry about not reporting earlier, I'd expected to be able to hook up to the Internet there in some way but that didn't happen.
We've been there with Aleksey Bragin, KJK::Hyperion, Steven Edwards and myself on all 3 days, Wednesday Emanuele Aliberti and Eric Kohl were there and Thursday Thomas Weidenmueller. I think Thomas already summed it up quite nicely. We didn't have as much visitors as at Linux World in San Francisco last year, but the people in Frankfurt were far more positive about ReactOS than the people in SF. I was also amazed at the number of people who had already heard about the project, must have been between 50 and 75%. We distributed a few hundred hand-outs and 80 LiveCDs. It was nice to see some of the people accept a hand-out, walk on with their head down reading it, suddenly stop and turn back to look at the demo.
Most of the time we ran the Quake 1 demo plus some other stuff, depending on our mood. Sometimes ReactOS would crash after a few minutes, sometimes it would stay up for an hour or so. Running too many programs at the same time was a sure recipe for a crash. Still, most people didn't run away even if it crashed, they understood the alpha-state of development.
We also made contact with some other OSS groups, like the Samba people and the Linux-on-XBOX guys. Everyone seemed very willing to cooperate.
For me personally the nicest thing was to meet some of the other developers. I'd seen Steven before but none of the others. We also had some good discussions about future plans (what to target after 0.3).
I took some pictures, will post them on some website tomorrow, I'm too tired now.
Gé van Geldorp.
Hi GvG!
Ge van Geldorp wrote:
For those who are at the Linux world expo at Frankfurt, how is that going? I, and probably the rest of the people reading the mail lists whana know any news from you guys.
Yeah, sorry about not reporting earlier, I'd expected to be able to hook up to the Internet there in some way but that didn't happen.
We've been there with Aleksey Bragin, KJK::Hyperion, Steven Edwards and myself on all 3 days, Wednesday Emanuele Aliberti and Eric Kohl were there and Thursday Thomas Weidenmueller. I think Thomas already summed it up quite nicely. We didn't have as much visitors as at Linux World in San Francisco last year, but the people in Frankfurt were far more positive about ReactOS than the people in SF. I was also amazed at the number of people who had already heard about the project, must have been between 50 and 75%. We distributed a few hundred hand-outs and 80 LiveCDs. It was nice to see some of the people accept a hand-out, walk on with their head down reading it, suddenly stop and turn back to look at the demo.
That's good news.
Most of the time we ran the Quake 1 demo plus some other stuff, depending on
Quake 1 !!!!! how!?!!? write up a Howto_Quake_Reactos!
Please Please Please!!!!! 8^)
our mood. Sometimes ReactOS would crash after a few minutes, sometimes it would stay up for an hour or so. Running too many programs at the same time was a sure recipe for a crash. Still, most people didn't run away even if it crashed, they understood the alpha-state of development.
We also made contact with some other OSS groups, like the Samba people and the Linux-on-XBOX guys. Everyone seemed very willing to cooperate.
For me personally the nicest thing was to meet some of the other developers. I'd seen Steven before but none of the others. We also had some good discussions about future plans (what to target after 0.3).
I took some pictures, will post them on some website tomorrow, I'm too tired now.
Gé van Geldorp.
Very Good! James
I took some pictures, will post them on some website tomorrow, I'm too tired now.
Ge van Geldorp wrote:
I took some pictures, will post them on some website tomorrow, I'm too tired now.
Hi Gé, nice pictures!
I just dumped the memory card on the web. The low quality is because I used a camcorder to take the pictures.
Beware of size: no thumbnails!
http://users.libero.it/ea/papers/lwe2004/index_27a.html
Emanuele
--- Aliberti Emanuele ea@iol.it escribió:
Ge van Geldorp wrote:
I took some pictures, will post them on some
website
tomorrow, I'm too tired now.
Hi Gé, nice pictures!
I just dumped the memory card on the web. The low quality is because I used a camcorder to take the pictures.
Beware of size: no thumbnails!
http://users.libero.it/ea/papers/lwe2004/index_27a.html
Emanuele _______________________________________________ ros-general mailing list ros-general@reactos.com http://reactos.com/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
Awesome, i am downloading the images right now, i wish i could have gone...but my work stuck me at madrid (for once i was at madrid, in a big airport nexus, and not at home at canary islands).
I am not a coder, but as i wanted to colaborate, i have done the only thing i could imagine.
Did a little text to explain the users some questions very offten asked in the forums... they are explanations for noobs, but i think we all were noobs once in our life (myself i am still an noob in many things :)
Here the text, also in word and HTML, change whatever you think apropiate ---------------------------------
APLICATION AND PROGRAMS FOR REACTOS...WILL X PROGRAM WORK IN REACTOS?
1) As you all know, ReactOS is an open source operating system whose goal is to clone windows NT (and in the road, to be compatible with all the new NTs from microsoft, that goes from NT 4.0 to XP).
2) And this mean? Just that ANY Windows compatible aplication will work in ReactOS (yes, your games too), thats why NOONE is programing aplications for ReactOS, there are ALREADY THOUSANDS of aplications READY FOR USE, with any finality you could imagine.
3) Then, why X dont work in ReactOS? Cause ReactOS is not finished yet, the kernel is almost complete, but there are many functions (all those funny DLLs inside windows) that are still half finished, so some programs will work, but if they have to call a function inside a DLL that is not yet there, the program will crash or just wont start. Thats the reason everybody in reactos is working in the windows API (those DLLs that draw beautifull windows in your computer) and finishing the kernel, so your favourite aplication can work in reactos as soon as posible.
4) I know they are programing in C++, will they suport Visual Basic (or Delphy...)?. As you know all those are programing languages, but at the end all of them have to be translated into something the computer can understand (01010010101), those are the Exe files (among others), so if you make an aplication with C++ and then rebuild the same one with Visual Basic they will be very similar at the end, as both have to do the same things. Thus programs made with VB, C++, Delphy... are already suported by reactos, it just that if they call any function still not implemented in reactos your program wont work, and sadly, VB usually relies more in windows DLLs and windows tricks than C++ , that is a bit more windows independant. ?This is how i understand it, but i am not a coder-
5) What can i do for Reactos? To work in the API or the kernel you would need a lot of knowledge of the windows API, and programming skill, something that even some programers out of the university have not mastered, but if you dont have those you (as i does, cause i dont have the necesary skill) could help installing and testing the OS, reporting bugs, translating texts to your language and spreading the word or ReactOS.
Thankyou,
Lucio Diaz.
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I'm not familiar with an OS named M$. See http://www.reactos.com/en/content/view/full/260 for information on how to install ReactOS.
Casper
-----Original Message----- From: ros-general-bounces@reactos.com [mailto:ros-general-bounces@reactos.com] On Behalf Of Ralph Shumaker Sent: 2. oktober 2004 07:55 To: ReactOS General List Subject: Re: [ros-general] ReactOS 0.2.4 Released
Robert Köpferl wrote:
The final version of ROS 0.2.4 has been uploaded to
sourceforge and is
now available to you. _______________________________________________ ros-general mailing list ros-general@reactos.com http://reactos.com/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
A couple of weeks ago, I downloaded it: -rw------- 1 rafael rafael 7973432 Sep 15 01:37 reactos-0.2.4-bin.zip
Then I extracted it to a subdirectory of my home directory. I need to know how to get it running. Is there a HOWTO somewhere? I could not find anything (documentation, that is) within the archive itself.
I'm currently running Red Hat Linux v9. I don't have M$ on my machine.
(This list seems rather dormant. I hope I'm posting to the right place.) _______________________________________________ ros-general mailing list ros-general@reactos.com http://reactos.com/mailman/listinfo/ros-general
Casper Hornstrup wrote:
I'm not familiar with an OS named M$. See http://www.reactos.com/en/content/view/full/260 for information on how to install ReactOS.
Casper
M$ is how some non-Windows users refer to Microsoft (where the S is replaced with $).
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