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Re: Issue 3. [Re: [ros-general] ROS-User-Issues]

by jwalsh＠bigpond.net.au

Thanks David. That is what I am trying to figure out myself. It was the rare courtesy I found here, which has kept me here this long. That appears to be running out, now that it is discovered I don't blindly follow the dictates of leaders. It's an Australian obsession. The answers I need to get go beyond the mere "Part Fabrication" or the "Componant Assembly". I've done my time in industry and retired, a slave no longer. I need to know this: Will I actually be working for Microsoft? For nothing? As I said from the outset, I'm here only because I see the writing on the wall for 9x. My ISP has sent all of us a blunt eviction (by stealth) notice, otherwise, I like most other simple DOS users, am more than happy with what I have already. They also said their policy is conditioned by Microsoft. I don't really need NT. Is it something I have got to have? However it seems that no reason at all need be given, by reactOS, why we must relocate to NT (irrespective of whether it is FAt or not). Its a strange attitude for a socalled free organisation. So I guess by stalling for time I might elicite from the Ros-Users a credible answer. I'm definately not stalking or trolling. I am carefull not to put a lot of energy into a "Code Farm", for the large corporations (to my knowledge M$ invented the practice, I've merely identified it). I still wish you all Good Cheer and a rosuccess. Thanks for the opportunity Justin ---- David Hinz <post.center(a)gmail.com> wrote: > _______________________________________________ > ros-general mailing list > ros-general(a)reactos.org > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general

18 years, 10 months

Issue 0. [Re: [ros-general] ROS-User-Issues]

by jwalsh＠bigpond.net.au

When I do finally get the message that I am not welcome then I will announce my departure here. My Mission: Is to create a new Machine Language which is a manifold of all the other Machine languages. [see wikipedia "hello world"] I will give the Machine a means to identify concience, i.e. be apperceptive. I may call it Zero++ (just kidding). It will be pretty much as useless as I am a sick, retired person. But it will actually enable the first step which "begins the longest march". It is also called the Copernican Revolution. Simple because it, in itSelf, is not a step toward anything else. It is not and Object toward which the step is Oriented i.e. has Objective validity. It has only one property i.e. Magnitude. and Degree. And aSubject i.e. mySelf It is not described by the Cartesian Cogito " I THINK therefore I AM" Which began the sequence called Enlightenment. But with "I AM therefore I THINK". I am a former metal worker cum programmer cum user. In order for me to have worth I have separated out the Users from the Programmers. Each has their own separate issues. Already I find the Programmers are questioning the right of a User to know nothing about Programming and find it clever to take an ignorant User question and lead into a trivial deadend, thereby exhausting the ignorant User. This practice of killing by confusion is a common practice and is called OBFUSCATION. Microsoft is perfecting the technique whilst stimulating the spread of "code farms". I will not be confused. I will confine such heretical statements to this thread. That way I am easily identified. The "devil you know is better than the devil you don't know". Rosuccess Justin > Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 6:36:31 +1000 > From: "jwalsh(a)bigpond.net.au" <jwalsh(a)bigpond.net.au> > To: ReactOS General List <ros-general(a)reactos.org> > Subject: Re: Issue 3. [Re: [ros-general] ROS-User-Issues] > Cc: David Hinz <post.center(a)gmail.com> > > Thanks David. > > That is what I am trying to figure out myself. > It was the rare courtesy I found here, which has kept me here this long. > > That appears to be running out, now that it is discovered I don't blindly follow the dictates of leaders. It's an Australian obsession. > > The answers I need to get go beyond the mere "Part Fabrication" or the "Componant Assembly". I've done my time in industry and retired, a slave no longer. > > I need to know this: Will I actually be working for Microsoft? For nothing? > > As I said from the outset, I'm here only because I see the writing on the wall for 9x. > > My ISP has sent all of us a blunt eviction (by stealth) notice, otherwise, I like most other simple DOS users, am more than happy with what I have already. > They also said their policy is conditioned by Microsoft. > I don't really need NT. Is it something I have got to have? > > However it seems that no reason at all need be given, by reactOS, why we must relocate to NT (irrespective of whether it is FAt or not). > Its a strange attitude for a socalled free organisation. > > So I guess by stalling for time I might elicite from the Ros-Users a credible answer. > I'm definately not stalking or trolling. > > I am carefull not to put a lot of energy into a "Code Farm", for the large corporations (to my knowledge M$ invented the practice, I've merely identified it). > > I still wish you all Good Cheer and a rosuccess. > > Thanks for the opportunity > > Justin > > > > ---- David Hinz <post.center(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > _______________________________________________ > > ros-general mailing list > > ros-general(a)reactos.org > > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general > > _______________________________________________ > ros-general mailing list > ros-general(a)reactos.org > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general

18 years, 10 months

Reactos installing on pen stick usb2.0

by attkk444

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18 years, 10 months

Issue 3. [Re: [ros-general] ROS-User-Issues]

by jwalsh＠bigpond.net.au

Thanks Derek. > > Is this an issue worth pursuing? I take it you are saying, no it is not an issue worth pursuing. I'm interested if there might be an similar solid opinion regarding the other points as well. So from your explanation it sounds like a good thing i.e taking something which is well grounded and building on it. Forward to perfection so to speak. I must admit that I have not as yet had good results: It simply does not work on my stock standard Thankpad 600E. [Please I am not asking for it either]. learning about it is the way I work. My fear has been that if I do ask a silly question then some clever so and so will say: Stop winging, take responsibility for your life, rfm and fix it. Microsoft says: let us take responsibility for your life, rtm, and we promise in the next update it will be fixed. Is there no room for a simple ignorant user in the freeWorld of software? Cheers and rosuccess Justin ---- Derek Hinchliffe <dhinchliffe(a)mpl.com.au> wrote: > > Justin wrote: > <snip> > > Statements like ReactOS is still an Alpha release is not necessary. > > Microsoft has made the eternal Alpha release it's fortune. > > Now Red Hat has too, and most other Linux releases. > > Copy Cat Industrialised production cannot be trusted. > > I get mixed messages from ReactOS Users. > > Is this an issue worth pursuing? > > I don't think it is right to compare ReactOS stating that it is an alpha > release to Microsoft and Redhat (or other Linux distro) releases. Sure, > there is undoubtably a history of Microsoft releasing software that it has > been best to steer clear of until at least SP1, but I don't think you can > say that ReactOS is anywhere near any previous Windows release in terms of > functionality relevant to the average user. > > And nobody at this stage can expect it to be, hence the 'alpha' releases. > I think maybe it would be more appropriate to say that Microsoft and Linux > distros have made beta releases, rather than alpha. Beta releases will > generally contain the functionality expected, but may contain bugs in the > way that functionality is implemented, whereas alpha releases are > generally lacking in expected functionality. > > So I believe it is correct to term ReactOS as 'Alpha' (and to make this > clear to users, there is no point in hiding the truth) for the time being. > People are then more likely to be impressed with the progress so far (as > they should be) rather than disappointed because they expected a usable > system. > > Cheers > Derek > > > > _______________________________________________ > ros-general mailing list > ros-general(a)reactos.org > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general

18 years, 10 months

RE: SUSPICIOUS: Re: [ros-general] TDI-Based Open Source Personal Firewall

by Murphy, Ged (Bolton)

-----Original Message----- From: Alex Ionescu [mailto:ionucu@videotron.ca] Sent: 26 October 2005 10:21 To: ReactOS General List Subject: SUSPICIOUS: Re: [ros-general] TDI-Based Open Source Personal Firewall > Hi, Hi Alex. > I recommend you read into the WFP (Windows Filter Platform) which will > be part of Vista. It's included in the documentation that I've sent you > this morning on IRC. I started to read through that documentation this morning. The material you mentioned is only a presentation. I need to gather more detailed info on this. > Implementing a firewall in TDI is foolish not only > because of its place in the stack, but also because of the WPP and Windows > Kernel Sockets which will replace TDI in Blackcomb. It would be a waste to > focus on a dying technology. NDIS has been done before, but here again, > NDIS 6.0 would be recommended. I didn't know about WFP and WSK until this morning. I agree TDI is bad, but had only read about IM drivers up until now. > Personally, I would go with the WFP design...it's a great chance to have some > new technology. More information in the documentation I've send and also here: > http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/network/WFP.mspx I've recently found CableGuys blog but haven't had much chance to start reading it. I've made a point to bookmark it and will start to go through it more often. Ged. _______________________________________________ ros-general mailing list ros-general(a)reactos.org http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general ************************************************************************ The information contained in this message or any of its attachments is confidential and is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee. The information may also be legally privileged. The views expressed may not be company policy, but the personal views of the originator. If you are not the addressee, any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other dissemination or use of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact postmaster(a)exideuk.co.uk <mailto:postmaster@exideuk.co.uk> and then delete this message. Exide Technologies is an industrial and transportation battery producer and recycler with operations in 89 countries. Further information can be found at www.exide.com

18 years, 10 months

Re: Issue 1. [Re: [ros-general] ROS-User-Issues]

by jwalsh＠bigpond.net.au

Hi fellow ros-Users. So far no silly programmers have bother to break into our trivial pursuit. I hope it is because they are too serious to be bothered. To be fair I started this with a silly mistake. Sorry, and pleased at the outcome. I would like to end it with a serious analytical guess. Ahem, cough ! If we add an "e" we get User NeT(work) . Ok with that? Now it we add the Letter for the the other great *nix discovery i.e. "X" (terminal). Still OK? Put them both together you get NeXT, for Jobs's Apple HyperText and HyperCard Which today is the backbone of the Internet. Jobs takes his payout after being dumped from Apple, takes the bit he missed from Xerox Smalltalk80 and builds NeXT computers, the ferrari of Computers. He brings it back to Apple again put it on a Linux kernel and calles it NextStep. Together (AIM group Apple, IBM and Motorolla) they build the "G" series. Microsofts decides to catch up by applying it to his own hardware base i.e. Intel. It is called the Wintel group. This may just be a lot of proverbial codswallop, but as User-gossip goes, it does provide a base for further investigation. Can we lift the level a bit? So can I close Issue 1.0 and suggest opening, maybe Issue 2.0? Cheers and rosuccess Justin ---- KJKHyperion <hackbunny(a)reactos.com> wrote: > Alex Ionescu wrote: > > > It's not New Technology, nor Nothern Telecom, not Needs Terabytes > > neither Not There. > > how about "it means nothing"? It's just like my "KJK": historically it > stands for Kyle Jordan Klan, but today its meaning is irrelevant > _______________________________________________ > ros-general mailing list > ros-general(a)reactos.org > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general

18 years, 10 months

RE: [ros-general] TDI-Based Open Source Personal Firewall

by Murphy, Ged (Bolton)

Well I sent a reply to this, but I included an attachment and got a reply saying it was pending release. Ge, could you look at this and remove the attachment if deemed necessary. Thanks, Ged. -----Original Message----- From: James Tabor [mailto:jimtabor@adsl-64-217-116-74.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] Sent: 26 October 2005 00:52 To: ReactOS General List Subject: [ros-general] TDI-Based Open Source Personal Firewall Hi From IRC some weeks ago. This looks good to me. http://sourceforge.net/projects/tdifw Thanks, James _______________________________________________ ros-general mailing list ros-general(a)reactos.org http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general ************************************************************************ The information contained in this message or any of its attachments is confidential and is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee. The information may also be legally privileged. The views expressed may not be company policy, but the personal views of the originator. If you are not the addressee, any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other dissemination or use of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact postmaster(a)exideuk.co.uk <mailto:postmaster@exideuk.co.uk> and then delete this message. Exide Technologies is an industrial and transportation battery producer and recycler with operations in 89 countries. Further information can be found at www.exide.com

18 years, 10 months

Correction Re: Issue 1. [Re: [ros-general] ROS-User-Issues]

by jwalsh＠bigpond.net.au

Sorry again Richard. I forgot to attach my references. Please see below. > Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 16:18:10 +1000 > From: "jwalsh(a)bigpond.net.au" <jwalsh(a)bigpond.net.au> > To: ReactOS General List <ros-general(a)reactos.org> > Subject: Re: Issue 1. [Re: [ros-general] ROS-User-Issues] > Cc: > > Strictly speaking you are correct Richard. > To be more precise http and html are merely a legacy of hypercard/hypertalk. > I beg your pardon I will try to be more precise. > Wikipedia too is not written by experts, so you can alter their facts if you fell they are wrong. > We are all to a certain extent captives of legacy. > I am on many lists and find that I sometime grab a convenient answer without properly checking it validity. > > Cheers and rosuccess > Justin > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperCard HyperText Transfer Protocol (HTTP) is the primary method used to convey information on the World Wide Web. The original purpose was to provide a way to publish and receive HTML pages. In August 1987, Apple Computer revealed its HyperCard application for its Macintosh line of computers at the MacWorld convention in Boston. HyperCard was an immediate hit and helped to popularize the concept of hypertext with the general public (although as Jakob Nielsen later pointed out, it was technically a hypermedia system because its hyperlinks originated only from regions on the screen). The first hypertext-specific academic conference also took place that year. Legacy HyperCard is one of the first products that made use of and popularized the hypertext concept to a large popular base of users. Jakob Nielsen has pointed out that HyperCard was really only a hypermedia program since its links started from regions on a card, not text objects; actual HTML-style text hyperlinks were possible in later versions, but were awkward to implement and seldom used. HyperCard saw a loss in popularity with the growth of the World Wide Web, since the Web could handle and deliver data in much the same way as HyperCard without being limited to files on your hard disk. Interestingly, HyperCard had a significant impact on the web as it inspired the creation of both HTTP itself and JavaScript (through its influence on Tim Berners-Lee's colleague Robert Cailliau).

18 years, 10 months

Re: Issue 1. [Re: [ros-general] ROS-User-Issues]

by jwalsh＠bigpond.net.au

Sorry Richard I am not strictly correct, the concept was around long before Apple. However Apple is credited with popularlising it. I know I first leaned of hypercard, hypertalk and hypertext from Apple sources. Next time I will use the word "legacy". As for the connection, to http and html, I got that too from the source below. If you feel strongly enough about it you are able to change the material in the Wikipedia. Of course I still may have read it incorrectly. They only require that the material be well researched and the changes made with professional skill. You are entitled to question my sources Richard. By so doing you improve this list Cheers and rosuccess Justin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperCard HyperText Transfer Protocol (HTTP) is the primary method used to convey information on the World Wide Web. The original purpose was to provide a way to publish and receive HTML pages. In August 1987, Apple Computer revealed its HyperCard application for its Macintosh line of computers at the MacWorld convention in Boston. HyperCard was an immediate hit and helped to popularize the concept of hypertext with the general public (although as Jakob Nielsen later pointed out, it was technically a hypermedia system because its hyperlinks originated only from regions on the screen). The first hypertext-specific academic conference also took place that year. Legacy HyperCard is one of the first products that made use of and popularized the hypertext concept to a large popular base of users. Jakob Nielsen has pointed out that HyperCard was really only a hypermedia program since its links started from regions on a card, not text objects; actual HTML-style text hyperlinks were possible in later versions, but were awkward to implement and seldom used. HyperCard saw a loss in popularity with the growth of the World Wide Web, since the Web could handle and deliver data in much the same way as HyperCard without being limited to files on your hard disk. Interestingly, HyperCard had a significant impact on the web as it inspired the creation of both HTTP itself and JavaScript (through its influence on Tim Berners-Lee's colleague Robert Cailliau). ---- Richard Campbell <eek2121(a)comcast.net> wrote: > FYI, Hypercard and it's programming language have nothing to do with > HTTP, nor HTML or anything else. It was completely different. > Hypercard 1.0/hypertext was the first language i was really interested > in (I liked Tandy BASIC, however the machine died. I grew up using a > Tandy CoCo 2.) > > jwalsh(a)bigpond.net.au wrote: > > >I don't quite understand what you mean here Alex: > > > > > >>Jobs' failed OS ???? Sounds interesting though. > >> > >> > >And as for: > > > > > >>QBASIC-level scripting language are the backbone of > >>the Internet? Perhaps you might expand on that one?? > >> > >> > >I was refering to the "HT" in "HTTP" > >And "backbone was a poor choice of words. > >I'm sure even sure whether the internet has one. > > > >Cheers and rosuccess > >Justin > > > > > >---- Alex Ionescu <ionucu(a)videotron.ca> wrote: > > > > > >>jwalsh(a)bigpond.net.au wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Put them both together you get NeXT, for Jobs's Apple HyperText and HyperCard > >>>Which today is the backbone of the Internet. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>Jobs' failed OS and QBASIC-level scripting language are the backbone of > >>the Internet? > >>I thought Al Gore was the man behind it! > >> > >>Best Regards, > >>Alex Ionescu > >>_______________________________________________ > >>ros-general mailing list > >>ros-general(a)reactos.org > >>http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general > >> > >> > > > >_______________________________________________ > >ros-general mailing list > >ros-general(a)reactos.org > >http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ros-general mailing list > ros-general(a)reactos.org > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general

18 years, 11 months

Re: Issue 1. [Re: [ros-general] ROS-User-Issues]

by jwalsh＠bigpond.net.au

Strictly speaking you are correct Richard. To be more precise http and html are merely a legacy of hypercard/hypertalk. I beg your pardon I will try to be more precise. Wikipedia too is not written by experts, so you can alter their facts if you fell they are wrong. We are all to a certain extent captives of legacy. I am on many lists and find that I sometime grab a convenient answer without properly checking it validity. Cheers and rosuccess Justin ---- Richard Campbell <eek2121(a)comcast.net> wrote: > FYI, Hypercard and it's programming language have nothing to do with > HTTP, nor HTML or anything else. It was completely different. > Hypercard 1.0/hypertext was the first language i was really interested > in (I liked Tandy BASIC, however the machine died. I grew up using a > Tandy CoCo 2.) > > jwalsh(a)bigpond.net.au wrote: > > >I don't quite understand what you mean here Alex: > > > > > >>Jobs' failed OS ???? Sounds interesting though. > >> > >> > >And as for: > > > > > >>QBASIC-level scripting language are the backbone of > >>the Internet? Perhaps you might expand on that one?? > >> > >> > >I was refering to the "HT" in "HTTP" > >And "backbone was a poor choice of words. > >I'm sure even sure whether the internet has one. > > > >Cheers and rosuccess > >Justin > > > > > >---- Alex Ionescu <ionucu(a)videotron.ca> wrote: > > > > > >>jwalsh(a)bigpond.net.au wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Put them both together you get NeXT, for Jobs's Apple HyperText and HyperCard > >>>Which today is the backbone of the Internet. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>Jobs' failed OS and QBASIC-level scripting language are the backbone of > >>the Internet? > >>I thought Al Gore was the man behind it! > >> > >>Best Regards, > >>Alex Ionescu > >>_______________________________________________ > >>ros-general mailing list > >>ros-general(a)reactos.org > >>http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general > >> > >> > > > >_______________________________________________ > >ros-general mailing list > >ros-general(a)reactos.org > >http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ros-general mailing list > ros-general(a)reactos.org > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general

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