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by crashfourit

What could cause the MDI child window's window menu icon and restore button not show up aplication's menu bar when an MDI child window is maximized??

18 years, 11 months

ROS-User-Issues

by Justin Walsh

---- Justin Walsh <justin_2006(a)operamail.com> wrote: > I'm a little confused. Well not anymore. This may not be a Wiki, but I can make it look like one. All I have to do is comply strictly with the ReactOS Code of Conduct. I think ROS-User-Issues or RUI is pretty clear. If you need to talk code then got to: ROS-Programmer-Issues or RPI. We already have Mingw-Msys for those don't just read or talk code, but seriously do it. Kicking off RUI. I recommend taking a look at http://www.pcpitstop.com He has some interesting things to say about Microsoft. Not that I agree entirely with him. Any objections or recomendations are welcome Cheers and rosuccess Justin -- _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 8 at http://www.opera.com Powered by Outblaze

18 years, 11 months

On User issues [RE: [ros-general] OK, Time for a few words..]

by Justin Walsh

I'm a little confused. And am now dumping Telstra, Bigpond.net.au Webmail, because they are too incompetant to remain in business. Although I have unbolted IE and everything else bar the kitchen-sink, I am still being pentrated by reminants of IE. They should be made face the Courts, I can't do it alone. Meanwhile I'm getting familiar with Opera Web Mail. Sigh? Meanwhile back to the issues... Hello World, Kevin. This conversation below is just what makes ReactOS so strong, but there is a danger that it can end in mere talk. I would like to dwell on what you have just said, but on a separate thread: like User-Issues. I strongly urge "Those Who Are In Control" to create a more convenient structure. Like say, this: The Begin/End block is to stress the point. ros-general BEGIN block ros-User-Issues ros-Programmer-Issues END block This issue is very important to me, but I'm embarrased that I might be blocking the Entry-Exit. Cheers and rosuccess Justin ---- wrote: > I don't see these products which are available for managing MS Windows into a more streamlined OS as being particularly against ReactOS. To me they are just a way of trying to get the bloated and sloppy Windows to work a bit better until the alternative is mature enough to use all day, every day. When ReactOS achieves this I will dump MS Windows, but till then I try to make the best of it. In a way, the fact that these system management utilities exist can help the ReactOS project 'get it right' where Microsoft failed. > DOS dead ? Maybe MS-DOS, yes, and possibly IBM's PC-DOS in the near future - but there are several other DOS variants, DR-DOS and Freedoms for example, which have a useful place in the grand scheme of things. Like the way Partition Magic uses DR-DOS to provide an op system to boot from floppy. Very useful on either new, virgin machines or when you've got hard drive problems. > Can't trust Microsoft ? I believe the one group of people who CAN trust Microsoft are their shareholders. > Kevin. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: jwalsh(a)bigpond.net.au [mailto:jwalsh@bigpond.net.au] > > Sent: 20 October 2005 23:43 > > To: ReactOS General List > > Cc: Kevin Lawton > > Subject: RE: [ros-general] OK, Time for a few words.. > > > > > > Well, there it is Kevin, suddenly a Window of opportunity is opening. > > It looks good, but I must warn you to read the fine print: > > This product seems to go against the intersts ReactOS. > > > > 1. So far it supports Windows 2000, XP x86/x64 and 2003 x86/x64 > > all languages. Windows Vista will be supported as well. > > > > I may be wrong here, but why not just say DOS or Fat32? > > > > 2. It needs at least .NET Framework 1.1 in order to run it... > > > > Now I have no doubt that DOS is on the way out. > > > > She is desparate to dump her old following and Australia won't > > take them anymore. This dump site is closed. > > > > But I will study it more closely and apologise if I am wrong. > > > > My acute sense of distrust (my worst feature) tells me Ms is > > turning bad luck into another good fortune again. > > > > Why Justin not give then a chance.? I will, I will, but... > > > > Please ReactOS, watch your back (office). > > > > Hmmm??? > > > > Cheers ans rosuccess > > Justin > > > > ---- TwoTailedFox <twotailedfox(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Kevin, if you're looking to slim down Windows 2000 (Or XP/2003, for > > > that matter), check out nLite: http://www.nliteos.com > > > > > > On 10/20/05, Kevin Lawton <kepla(a)btinternet.com> wrote: > > > > I had not heard of this 'LitePC' thing before - it sounds > > almost too good to be true. > > > > Thanks for the info - I will be giving it a try to trim my > > Win 2000 installations down to a more sensible size. > > > > Been down the Linux road too but, when you consider the > > current bulkiness of the more 'useful' Linux distros and the > > difficulties of using it with modern toys like phones or cameras, > > I find I have to keep Windows hanging around - at least until > > ReactOS is 'all present and correct'. FreeBSD is an interesting > > option for Unix-like-ness on a PC, with Cygwin and Win4Lin having > > their place too. > > > > Dunno about ros-insane, maybe it should be ros-inspired. > > > > Plenty of new things to play with now. :-) > > > > Kevin. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: ros-general-bounces(a)reactos.org > > > > > [mailto:ros-general-bounces@reactos.org]On Behalf Of > > > > > jwalsh(a)bigpond.net.au > > > > > Sent: 20 October 2005 05:08 > > > > > To: ReactOS General List > > > > > Cc: Robert Köpferl > > > > > Subject: Re: [ros-general] OK, Time for a few words.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If I may add my 2 cents worth. > > > > > I too have a spot in my heart for Linux Gui's, both KDE and Gnome. > > > > > However the overheads are too high. So I have 3 three Thinkspads > > > > > on the net. > > > > > and a comfortable swivel chair. > > > > > IMHO Linux is toooo fat and slow and badly designed, before I get > > > > > flamed it is only MHO. > > > > > So I have tried to compromise (on Particulars, not on Principles). > > > > > This was my strategy (for what it is worth): > > > > > Please remember it is only MHO, and not set in concrete. > > > > > I chose the first Linux distro off the block i.e. Slackware > > > > > because it stuck to basic principles. Yes as simple as that. The > > > > > old 1440 KB floppy disk (about the size of my limited imagination). > > > > > I chose a basic Windows32 platform i.e. 9x > > > > > Then I worked on the tiny Linux's (Monkey Linux, and pocket Linux) > > > > > Until I discovered Pat Villani's : > > > > > Linux for Windows 9X > > > > > Home page: http://www.monmouth.com/user_pages/patv/ > > > > > Download: > > > > > ftp://opensourcedepot.com/pub/linux/WinLin9X/v0.2/setup.exe > > > > > Author: Pat Villani (http://www.monmouth.com/user_pages/patv) > > > > > Mailing list: lin4win(a)opensourcedepot.com > > > > > It was great, it sat neatly in 18 MB. > > > > > Then I asked myself, "what the heck am I doing with nearly half a > > > > > gig of Windows98se?" > > > > > Not wanting to bring Microsoft down on my financially poor head: > > > > > I downloaded Australian product called 98Lite from LitePC.com > > > > > (trial version) > > > > > I liked it so much I bought the real thing. > > > > > It gave me the opportunity to unbolt everything which Microsoft > > > > > told the courts was not possible to do. > > > > > There she was, stripped from nearly half a gig to 50mb, stark > > > > > naked, but looking like Homer Simpson. > > > > > The speed increase was fantastic. Now I am going for 30 mb, then > > > > > 16, then 8, then ....... > > > > > The full story would take too long to tell, so I will leave > > it at that. > > > > > Suffice to say I have now dumped Linux and gone back to > > Unix BSD and bash. > > > > > That is when met Minsys and it was a good feeling. > > > > > I was Bourne again, bash'ed about the head, so to speak. > > > > > Oh I forgot there is a need for one extra doorway off ros-general > > > > > especially for me. > > > > > Mark it ros-insane. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers and rosuccess > > > > > > > > > > Justin > > > > > > > > > > ---- "Robert Köpferl" <rob(a)koepferl.de> wrote: > > > > > > Hhmmm, what you tink of is what I call a GDI-Port+win32 of xfree. > > > > > > etc > > > > > > Richard Campbell wrote: > > > > > > > XFree86 has already been ported to windows, whats the point > > > > > in a ROS port? > > > > > > > etc > > > > > > > Robert Köpferl wrote: > > > > > > > etc > > > > > > >> It should be possible to port Xfree86 to ROS (be it win32 or > > > > > posix) as > > > > > > >> it has been proted to os2. > > > > > > >>etc > > > > > > >> TwoTailedFox wrote: > > > > > > >> etc > > > > > > >>> I've seen quite a few users propose ideas, such as a > > new GUI, or new > > > > > > >>> functionality, only to be told it doesn't fit in with the > > > > > Core Goal of > > > > > > >>> ReactOS. > > > > > > >>> etc > > > > > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > > > > > >>> ros-general mailing list > > > > > > >>> ros-general(a)reactos.org > > > > > > >>> http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > > > >> ros-general mailing list > > > > > > >> ros-general(a)reactos.org > > > > > > >> http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > ros-general mailing list > > > > > > > ros-general(a)reactos.org > > > > > > > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > ros-general mailing list > > > > > > ros-general(a)reactos.org > > > > > > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > ros-general mailing list > > > > > ros-general(a)reactos.org > > > > > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > ros-general mailing list > > > > ros-general(a)reactos.org > > > > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > "I had a handle on life, but then it broke" > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > ros-general mailing list > > > ros-general(a)reactos.org > > > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ros-general mailing list > ros-general(a)reactos.org > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general -- _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 8 at http://www.opera.com Powered by Outblaze

18 years, 11 months

RE: [ros-general] OK, Time for a few words..

by jwalsh＠bigpond.net.au

Well, there it is Kevin, suddenly a Window of opportunity is opening. It looks good, but I must warn you to read the fine print: This product seems to go against the intersts ReactOS. 1. So far it supports Windows 2000, XP x86/x64 and 2003 x86/x64 all languages. Windows Vista will be supported as well. I may be wrong here, but why not just say DOS or Fat32? 2. It needs at least .NET Framework 1.1 in order to run it... Now I have no doubt that DOS is on the way out. She is desparate to dump her old following and Australia won't take them anymore. This dump site is closed. But I will study it more closely and apologise if I am wrong. My acute sense of distrust (my worst feature) tells me Ms is turning bad luck into another good fortune again. Why Justin not give then a chance.? I will, I will, but... Please ReactOS, watch your back (office). Hmmm??? Cheers ans rosuccess Justin ---- TwoTailedFox <twotailedfox(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Kevin, if you're looking to slim down Windows 2000 (Or XP/2003, for > that matter), check out nLite: http://www.nliteos.com > > On 10/20/05, Kevin Lawton <kepla(a)btinternet.com> wrote: > > I had not heard of this 'LitePC' thing before - it sounds almost too good to be true. > > Thanks for the info - I will be giving it a try to trim my Win 2000 installations down to a more sensible size. > > Been down the Linux road too but, when you consider the current bulkiness of the more 'useful' Linux distros and the difficulties of using it with modern toys like phones or cameras, I find I have to keep Windows hanging around - at least until ReactOS is 'all present and correct'. FreeBSD is an interesting option for Unix-like-ness on a PC, with Cygwin and Win4Lin having their place too. > > Dunno about ros-insane, maybe it should be ros-inspired. > > Plenty of new things to play with now. :-) > > Kevin. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: ros-general-bounces(a)reactos.org > > > [mailto:ros-general-bounces@reactos.org]On Behalf Of > > > jwalsh(a)bigpond.net.au > > > Sent: 20 October 2005 05:08 > > > To: ReactOS General List > > > Cc: Robert Köpferl > > > Subject: Re: [ros-general] OK, Time for a few words.. > > > > > > > > > > > > If I may add my 2 cents worth. > > > I too have a spot in my heart for Linux Gui's, both KDE and Gnome. > > > However the overheads are too high. So I have 3 three Thinkspads > > > on the net. > > > and a comfortable swivel chair. > > > IMHO Linux is toooo fat and slow and badly designed, before I get > > > flamed it is only MHO. > > > So I have tried to compromise (on Particulars, not on Principles). > > > This was my strategy (for what it is worth): > > > Please remember it is only MHO, and not set in concrete. > > > I chose the first Linux distro off the block i.e. Slackware > > > because it stuck to basic principles. Yes as simple as that. The > > > old 1440 KB floppy disk (about the size of my limited imagination). > > > I chose a basic Windows32 platform i.e. 9x > > > Then I worked on the tiny Linux's (Monkey Linux, and pocket Linux) > > > Until I discovered Pat Villani's : > > > Linux for Windows 9X > > > Home page: http://www.monmouth.com/user_pages/patv/ > > > Download: > > > ftp://opensourcedepot.com/pub/linux/WinLin9X/v0.2/setup.exe > > > Author: Pat Villani (http://www.monmouth.com/user_pages/patv) > > > Mailing list: lin4win(a)opensourcedepot.com > > > It was great, it sat neatly in 18 MB. > > > Then I asked myself, "what the heck am I doing with nearly half a > > > gig of Windows98se?" > > > Not wanting to bring Microsoft down on my financially poor head: > > > I downloaded Australian product called 98Lite from LitePC.com > > > (trial version) > > > I liked it so much I bought the real thing. > > > It gave me the opportunity to unbolt everything which Microsoft > > > told the courts was not possible to do. > > > There she was, stripped from nearly half a gig to 50mb, stark > > > naked, but looking like Homer Simpson. > > > The speed increase was fantastic. Now I am going for 30 mb, then > > > 16, then 8, then ....... > > > The full story would take too long to tell, so I will leave it at that. > > > Suffice to say I have now dumped Linux and gone back to Unix BSD and bash. > > > That is when met Minsys and it was a good feeling. > > > I was Bourne again, bash'ed about the head, so to speak. > > > Oh I forgot there is a need for one extra doorway off ros-general > > > especially for me. > > > Mark it ros-insane. > > > > > > Cheers and rosuccess > > > > > > Justin > > > > > > ---- "Robert Köpferl" <rob(a)koepferl.de> wrote: > > > > Hhmmm, what you tink of is what I call a GDI-Port+win32 of xfree. > > > > etc > > > > Richard Campbell wrote: > > > > > XFree86 has already been ported to windows, whats the point > > > in a ROS port? > > > > > etc > > > > > Robert Köpferl wrote: > > > > > etc > > > > >> It should be possible to port Xfree86 to ROS (be it win32 or > > > posix) as > > > > >> it has been proted to os2. > > > > >>etc > > > > >> TwoTailedFox wrote: > > > > >> etc > > > > >>> I've seen quite a few users propose ideas, such as a new GUI, or new > > > > >>> functionality, only to be told it doesn't fit in with the > > > Core Goal of > > > > >>> ReactOS. > > > > >>> etc > > > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > > > >>> ros-general mailing list > > > > >>> ros-general(a)reactos.org > > > > >>> http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general > > > > >>> > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > >> ros-general mailing list > > > > >> ros-general(a)reactos.org > > > > >> http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general > > > > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > ros-general mailing list > > > > > ros-general(a)reactos.org > > > > > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > ros-general mailing list > > > > ros-general(a)reactos.org > > > > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > ros-general mailing list > > > ros-general(a)reactos.org > > > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ros-general mailing list > > ros-general(a)reactos.org > > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general > > > > > -- > "I had a handle on life, but then it broke" > > _______________________________________________ > ros-general mailing list > ros-general(a)reactos.org > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general

18 years, 11 months

Re: [ros-general] A note to all you ReactOS Developers

by jwalsh＠bigpond.net.au

Thanks K McI. > .........., he's just reminiscing about old, good, alternative OSes... Gosh is it that far back already, it seems like yesterday. My attention is being distracted, by this crazy Webmail behavour. I have to restart Windows after every two email, and it's driving me mad. I guess it is payback time for me unbolting IE. Sorry I'm off topic, but we have to expect that Ms has too much to lose if ReactOS succeeds. I just know that this intrusion into my computer is ilegal, but proving is going to be difficult. When I do I'll let you all know about it. Cheers and rosuccess Justin ---- K McI <uniq(a)wwsvr.bounceme.net> wrote: > Ge van Düsseldorf wrote: > > Huh? SkyOS is not open source. The wikipedia page you link to starts: "SkyOS is a proprietary operating system" > > > > Gé van Geldorp. > > Neither was BeOS, he's just reminiscing about old, good, alternative OSes... > > -uQ > _______________________________________________ > ros-general mailing list > ros-general(a)reactos.org > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general

18 years, 11 months

RE: [ros-general] A note to all you ReactOS Developers

by jwalsh＠bigpond.net.au

Sorry you are right, thanks for the correction. cheers and rosuccess ---- Ge van Geldorp <gvg(a)reactos.org> wrote: > > From: jwalsh(a)bigpond.net.au > > > > A while back I discovered SkyOS and my old excitement was revived. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SkyOS > > They had the professionalism and the open source principles > > in balance. > > Huh? SkyOS is not open source. The wikipedia page you link to starts: "SkyOS is a proprietary operating system" > > Gé van Geldorp. > > > _______________________________________________ > ros-general mailing list > ros-general(a)reactos.org > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general

18 years, 11 months

RE: [ros-general] A note to all you ReactOS Developers

by jwalsh＠bigpond.net.au

18 years, 11 months

Re: [ros-general] A note to all you ReactOS Developers

by jwalsh＠bigpond.net.au

Sorry Al, if this message is a repeat. I just discovered a serious security breach which is not picked up by any anti Virus or anti spyware, or malware.....It is so simple it is mind boggling. Anyway back to business. I thank LitePC.com for the means to discover it. ------------------------------------------------------- Yes Al, I agree. I remember when Be and the BeBox were first announced. Wow ! I was so excited. A while back I discovered SkyOS and my old excitement was revived. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SkyOS They had the professionalism and the open source principles in balance. I also stumbled on Haiku too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiku_(operating_system) Only now is the whole thing coming together in my aging head. My excitement is returning (again). But I am still worried that autocracy of professionalism is a two edged sword. Open and close are not only heterogenous concepts, they are also homogenous. Each being the condition of the existence of the other. I remain optimistic though. Cheers and rosuccess Justin ---- Al Hartman <alhartman6(a)comcast.net> wrote: > This is just a note to say that the ReactOS Project and the Haiku > Project are the two most exciting projects in the Open Source Community today! > > You guys are creating a historic piece of software here... > > When you get to the 1.0 Release, you will have done something NEVER > done before. > > Clone the most popular OS ever written. > > And I look forward to that first boot of 1.0 > > Al > > _______________________________________________ > ros-general mailing list > ros-general(a)reactos.org > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general

18 years, 11 months

Re: [ros-general] A note to all you ReactOS Developers

by jwalsh＠bigpond.net.au

Yes Al, I agree. I remember when Be and the BeBox were first announced. Wow ! was I excited. A while back I discovered SkyOS and my old excitement was revived. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SkyOS They had the professionalism and the open source principles in balance. I also stumbled on Haiku too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiku_(operating_system) Only now is the whole thing comming together in my aging head. My excitement is returning (again). But I am still worried that autocracy of professionalism is a two edged sword. Open and close are not only heterogenous concepts. They are also homogenous. Each being the condition of the existence of the other. I remain optimistic Cheers and rosuccess Justin ---- Al Hartman <alhartman6(a)comcast.net> wrote: > This is just a note to say that the ReactOS Project and the Haiku > Project are the two most exciting projects in the Open Source Community today! > > You guys are creating a historic piece of software here... > > When you get to the 1.0 Release, you will have done something NEVER > done before. > > Clone the most popular OS ever written. > > And I look forward to that first boot of 1.0 > > Al > > _______________________________________________ > ros-general mailing list > ros-general(a)reactos.org > http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general

18 years, 11 months

A note to all you ReactOS Developers

by Al Hartman

This is just a note to say that the ReactOS Project and the Haiku Project are the two most exciting projects in the Open Source Community today! You guys are creating a historic piece of software here... When you get to the 1.0 Release, you will have done something NEVER done before. Clone the most popular OS ever written. And I look forward to that first boot of 1.0 Al

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